Fire on Carnival Triumph. No engines, running on emergency generators.

[caribill]

Oh yes, the joy of cold food, no showers for 4 days and going to the bathroom in buckets for 4 days -

 

First of all, the toilets are usable, but cannot be flushed which does limit how long they can be used.

 

Second of all, it is likely partial power will be able to be restored and the first priority will be to get the flushing systems working again.

 

No, it is not a picnic and will be unpleasant on board for both passengers and crew until the ship can be towed to a dock.

 

Based on what happened on another Carnival ship that lost power a couple of years ago, the crew will be working extra, extra hard to make the passengers as comfortable as possible and get food to them.

[Letmelivehereplease]

"The ship's technical crew has determined the vessel will need to be towed to port," Carnival said around 7:30 p.m. ET Sunday. "A tugboat is en route to the ship's location and will tow the vessel to Progreso, Mexico, which is the closest port."

According to Gonzalez, the ship is expected to arrive in port Wednesday.

She said that passengers were never without electricity, thanks to emergency generators, and have ample food and water onboard. Even more food and beverages were being transferred Sunday night onto the Triumph from one of its sister ships, the Carnival Elation, which was on scene.

The Coast Guard said Sunday night that its officials are communicating with the ship's crew, adding that its Cutter Vigorous should arrive on-site early Monday morning.

After they are towed to Progreso, those aboard the Carnival Triumph will be flown back to the United States at no cost to them, the cruise line said. They will also get a full refund, credit that can be used toward a future trip and reimbursement for all expenses -- except casino and gift shop purchases -- for their current trip.

The vessel's next two departures, scheduled for Monday and Saturday, have been canceled. Those slated to be on those trips will get full refunds and discounts toward future cruises, the cruise line said.

 

Never without electricity???

[dbogusch]

I wonder what carnival has ready for people to sign to get off the boat, and how many lawyers are lining up at the airport.

 

I always have a friend come stay at my house with my dogs so that my good time doesn't stress them out too much. I'd feel worse about my dogs being trapped at a kennel for an extra 4 days more than I would be upset about the cruise.

 

I'm the same way. My pups are my babies. They stay at a doggy spa instead of a kennel but its still an unexpected expense

[dbogusch]

"The ship's technical crew has determined the vessel will need to be towed to port," Carnival said around 7:30 p.m. ET Sunday. "A tugboat is en route to the ship's location and will tow the vessel to Progreso, Mexico, which is the closest port."

According to Gonzalez, the ship is expected to arrive in port Wednesday.

She said that passengers were never without electricity, thanks to emergency generators, and have ample food and water onboard. Even more food and beverages were being transferred Sunday night onto the Triumph from one of its sister ships, the Carnival Elation, which was on scene.

The Coast Guard said Sunday night that its officials are communicating with the ship's crew, adding that its Cutter Vigorous should arrive on-site early Monday morning.

After they are towed to Progreso, those aboard the Carnival Triumph will be flown back to the United States at no cost to them, the cruise line said. They will also get a full refund, credit that can be used toward a future trip and reimbursement for all expenses -- except casino and gift shop purchases -- for their current trip.

The vessel's next two departures, scheduled for Monday and Saturday, have been canceled. Those slated to be on those trips will get full refunds and discounts toward future cruises, the cruise line said.

 

Never without electricity???

 

Yeah, we know directly from passengers that is pure spin for the benefit of the media

[jimboridesmtb]

How was luggage handled, after the Splendor incident? Did the crew pack up each passenger's belongings?

 

That would open up a whole can of worms if room stewards were packing bags and emptying out safes. Can't imagine that happening.

[caribill]

Never without electricity???

 

The emergency generators cannot provide enough power regular ship functions. There will be enough for emergency lighting, but not enough for air conditioning, elevators, etc.

[Raven Days]

I agree. It stinks that this has happened. I would be disappointed, but the compensation is adequate. I hope the Triumph is repaired and is able to sail again soon. She is my fav ship and will be on her again in September.

[philmcallister]

Perfect example of when gospel becomes fact. You are right they pick up the bags in the evening. They would have not started picking up bags before the fire happened mid day.

 

I'm afraid your'e wrong on this one. During the fire they had all passengers report to their muster stations. Once the fire was contained, passengers were asked to return to their rooms, to pack their belonging,to place their suitcases outside their doors,and then to return to public areas. The reason this was done is because, at the time, they "people in charge" were not aware of the severity of the damage, believed the ship would be able to navigate back to Galveston where a few repairs could be made and the next sailing would only be delayed by a small amount of time. The "people in charge" assumed that worst case scenario the passengers would be stranded in public areas for several hours, but then they would be able to disembark the ship in Galveston. In order to prevent passengers from having to go back to their rooms once in port they had them pack their bags, and the crew moved them to wherever they take them prior to debarkation. this was done to "benefit" customers on board, and (as far as i am concerened) to prevent the next cruise from having to leave any later.

Source: mother is on board. Called the number, was asked what her name was, what my relation was to her, and if i knew her address. They then proceeded to answer and question that I had, as they should to cover their ass legally.

[Poseidon Patty]

If that's the case, then each passenger hopefully has their meds with them.

[douglinc@msn.com]

I just read 25 pages of mostly BS. There were a few good posts mixed in. First off, I am going admit I have a "soft spot" for Triumph since my wife and I spent part of 2 week honeymoon on her back in '04. I would also like to add that I worked in the Marine Industry for 10 years and while my work was mostly with the non-commercial side( I did a lot of work with mega-yachts, you know the stuff we all oggle over, usually over 100' in length) my company did alot of commercial work, including the cruise industry. So while that doesn't qualify me as an expert, I have seen ships fail and the parts on them fail. The average commercial vessel will dry-dock approximately every 5 years. The cost, as already mentioned can be hundred's of thousands of dollars just to lift the ship out of the water, plus any repairs and/or modifications done. Companies don't like to do this, but realize it is a necessary evil . To say Carnival is delaying these dry-docks to help the bottom line is downright clueless statement. Ships are dry-docked on a regular basis not because the company may want too, but because doing so is also part of CG certification process to allow the ship to carry passengers.

 

There appears to be alot of "experts" here when in fact we really don't know any of the facts. All WE know is the ship is without power and floating adrift 150 miles from shore in the Gulf of Mexico. We know it is being towed to Progesso, and we know that the Carnival Elation has come along side and transferred supplies. We don't know the reason why, we don't know how, we don't when it will be fixed. That also means we don't know if this incident is related in any way to the issues described by posters back in December. It could be, it could not be.

 

In reference to those generators, most don't realize that those generators have been running non-stop almost since they were put in service. Even when the ship is docked, swapping out passengers between trips, or in dry dock, the generators are running to provide power, so to have one fail, it CAN happen. If that was the case here, what can you say? Yes, it sucks that people were inconvienced, I feel bad for those have had their plans changed, lost vacation, pay etc. but it is a mechanical part and will eventually fail. To say Carnival has been negligent in maitanance is just not fair. Not until we know the true cause of the siuation and that is proven as the truth.

I like that people are on here talking about this, discussing it, but let's sort fact from fiction , truth from fairytail and see what plays out over the next few days, weeks etc.

For the record, I also think Carnival is being fair in their compensation. I am sure no one will walk away from this trip feeling as if they haven't been compensated. For those who think I am drinking the Carnival Kool-Aid, so be it. I am just not one to start posting or making speculation till I have all the facts of an incident.

Scott

 

 

Exactly, it amazes me how many people who are not there know exactly what happened, what caused it, who is to blame & every detail about what is going on on the ship every minute. I hope these people never serve on a jury.

[berryberry]

First of all, the toilets are usable, but cannot be flushed which does limit how long they can be used.

 

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They are long past that point. Given that they are not letting passengers back in their staterooms, that means the only option is to use the public restrooms. And since they have been without power since early today, those restrooms are far beyond the point of being able to be used - hence the reports from people on board of having to use bags and buckets to go to the bathroom in

[jimboridesmtb]

I'm afraid your'e wrong on this one. During the fire they had all passengers report to their muster stations. Once the fire was contained, passengers were asked to return to their rooms, to pack their belonging,to place their suitcases outside their doors,and then to return to public areas. The reason this was done is because, at the time, they "people in charge" were not aware of the severity of the damage, believed the ship would be able to navigate back to Galveston where a few repairs could be made and the next sailing would only be delayed by a small amount of time. The "people in charge" assumed that worst case scenario the passengers would be stranded in public areas for several hours, but then they would be able to disembark the ship in Galveston. In order to prevent passengers from having to go back to their rooms once in port they had them pack their bags, and the crew moved them to wherever they take them prior to debarkation. this was done to "benefit" customers on board, and (as far as i am concerened) to prevent the next cruise from having to leave any later.

Source: mother is on board. Called the number, was asked what her name was, what my relation was to her, and if i knew her address. They then proceeded to answer and question that I had, as they should to cover their ass legally.

 

That makes more sense. Anyone requiring medication should have left it out then. Hopefully they will be able to access clothing considering the lengthy delay.

[Poseidon Patty]

This is going to be like elementary school - everyone is going to want to go to the nurse, if just for a change of scenery ;)

[philmcallister]

If that's the case, then each passenger hopefully has their meds with them.

 

I hope and pray that this is the case. I am comforted by the fact that if somebody's medicine was required (as far as like life or death) there is no doubt they would make sure that person got their luggage immediately. It's the people who might have a prescription for depression/anxiety/migraines etc etc. that may be in limbo

[berryberry]

I hope and pray that this is the case. I am comforted by the fact that if somebody's medicine was required (as far as like life or death) there is no doubt they would make sure that person got their luggage immediately. It's the people who might have a prescription for depression/anxiety/migraines etc etc. that may be in limbo

 

Or those that did not pack meds for an extra three days

[jimboridesmtb]

They are long past that point. Given that they are not letting passengers back in their staterooms, that means the only option is to use the public restrooms. And since they have been without power since early today, those restrooms are far beyond the point of being able to be used - hence the reports from people on board of having to use bags and buckets to go to the bathroom in

 

Wouldn't it make more sense to let passengers use their staterooms? The ship isn't sinking.

[Poseidon Patty]

Good point, Berry. I might pack an extra day, but I don't normally have 3 or 4 extra days of meds.

[dbogusch]

Or those that did not pack meds for an extra three days

 

Ugh that would be my worst nightmare. I have IV meds that I would die without. When I travel I alway pack an extra weeks worth. I hope they did too

[ccruisequeen]

When the ships go in for dry dock, I think all the technical aspects should be overhauled before they do any more 2.0 upgrades. Why make the ships look pretty if they can't cruise?

[HawkerBacker]

Of course they do have an opportunity here too, they can finally get rid of all their broken ship on a stick souvenirs! ;) Every passenger could say they had to break the ship to win it!

[Poseidon Patty]

Wouldn't it make more sense to let passengers use their staterooms? The ship isn't sinking.

 

I was wondering that, too. Is it safe to have everyone up higher?

[Sargent_Schultz]

In an emergency I have little doubt that a passenger could be evacuated from the ship or medicines and other supplies delivered.

[ellen9974]

I always pack a week extra of meds ....now I will start packing more meds ;)

[laser110]

When the ships go in for dry dock, I think all the technical aspects should be overhauled before they do any more 2.0 upgrades. Why make the ships look pretty if they can't cruise?

 

The only response I can have to this is everytime you get you're oil changed in your car, do you rebuild the engine first?

 

Just not possible, dry-docks are get in and get out thing. Do the necessary work and get the ship back to cruising. They make no money in a dry-dock, costs them hundred's of thousands to lift the ship out, then much more to make an mods/repairs etc. All the time usually still paying the crew, who isn't working, or working full time.

 

Scott

[jimboridesmtb]

I was wondering that, too. Is it safe to have everyone up higher?

 

In this case maybe so. S.H.I.T actually an acronym for ship higher in transit.