Bow Thrusters Posted June 26, 2005 #76 Share Posted June 26, 2005 "Carnival passengers (6 incidents) are more likely to go overboard than passengers from other cruise lines...especially passengers on the Fascination" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoinCruisin Posted June 26, 2005 #77 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Check out this link someone posted on another site. It definitely does happen a lot. This is the 7th time it has happened since 1/1/05. Wow. http://www.cruiseserver.net/travelpage/other/man_overboard.asp I still personally don't see 7 in 6 months as a very large occurence, considering the millions that cruise every year. 7 people in 6 months represents about .0005% of cruisers (actually probably even less)... If those same people stayed on land, the odds of something bad happening are probably even greater... Sure, 7 seems like a great number, but when you put it in the grand scheme of things, it is really quite small... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two cruisers 723 Posted June 26, 2005 #78 Share Posted June 26, 2005 I still personally don't see 7 in 6 months as a very large occurence, considering the millions that cruise every year. 7 people in 6 months represents about .0005% of cruisers (actually probably even less)... If those same people stayed on land, the odds of something bad happening are probably even greater... Sure, 7 seems like a great number, but when you put it in the grand scheme of things, it is really quite small... I get your point of it not being a large number in the whole scheme of things. But my point is that it's happened all these times and this is the first one I've heard about this year. So this is not highly publicized. What I wonder is, are these people committing suicide (Did you see the two older people on that list on the Destiny missing 2 days apart, a couple?), are they all drunk and falling off, or are the people out there committing the perfect murder and getting by with it. If even one of them was suspected to be a homocide, I'm certain it would have been in the news. And I watch CNN & Fox News on cable as well including shows such as Nancy Grace, Geraldo Rivera, Greta Vansusteran, etc. all the time. They likely would have reported it and I would have seen something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KruznKel Posted June 26, 2005 #79 Share Posted June 26, 2005 I get your point of it not being a large number in the whole scheme of things. But my point is that it's happened all these times and this is the first one I've heard about this year. So this is not highly publicized. What I wonder is, are these people committing suicide (Did you see the two older people on that list on the Destiny missing 2 days apart, a couple?), are they all drunk and falling off, or are the people out there committing the perfect murder and getting by with it. If even one of them was suspected to be a homocide, I'm certain it would have been in the news. And I watch CNN & Fox News on cable as well including shows such as Nancy Grace, Geraldo Rivera, Greta Vansusteran, etc. all the time. They likely would have reported it and I would have seen something. The two older people were reported missing on these boards as well when it happened.. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=178700&highlight=overboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted June 26, 2005 #80 Share Posted June 26, 2005 maybe the husband threw her overboard in the middle of the night. by heaving Joey off the deck of a luxury cruise liner and into the Atlantic Ocean from http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0375411089/002-5761064-9440809?v=glance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolyn1950 Posted June 26, 2005 #81 Share Posted June 26, 2005 http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/printstory.mpl/world/3241121 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live_2_cruise05 Posted June 26, 2005 #82 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Any new news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandlittleleague Posted June 26, 2005 #83 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Now, Derf, you know it's not commonplace.:rolleyes: I talked with a friend who's a news editor for a Galveston newspaper. They know nothing about it. Just seems strange to me. I just read it in the Galveston Daily News in Sundays Edition. It was no lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted June 26, 2005 #84 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Here is the thread on the tragic disappearence of Annette Mizener from http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=108618&highlight=gma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydecocruiser Posted June 26, 2005 #85 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Not sure missing passenger information is required to be released to the public. Carnival happens to report it, but it is certainly not limited to their ships. Ships are required to report Norovirus when it affects 2% or more of the passengers. Suicide isn't a rational act to begin with. No sure it makes a huge difference in areas like this, but Carnival ships have azipod propulsion, not normal propellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted June 26, 2005 #86 Share Posted June 26, 2005 but Carnival ships have azipod propulsion, not normal propellers. They still have screws Podded drives are currently finding growing success in the marine industry from http://www.marinelog.com/DOCS/PRINT/mmipods.html Azipod® Propulsion Concept from http://www.abb.com/global/abbzh/abbzh251.nsf?OpenDatabase&db=/global/seitp/seitp161.nsf&v=17E96&e=us&m=100A&c=F43763D58B083AF1C2256AD900372280 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydecocruiser Posted June 26, 2005 #87 Share Posted June 26, 2005 They still have screws Podded drives are currently finding growing success in the marine industry from http://www.marinelog.com/DOCS/PRINT/mmipods.html Azipod® Propulsion Concept from http://www.abb.com/global/abbzh/abbzh251.nsf?OpenDatabase&db=/global/seitp/seitp161.nsf&v=17E96&e=us&m=100A&c=F43763D58B083AF1C2256AD900372280 Yes, but no need for a rudder, so they aren't limited to the same location. Of course if you hit the cattle catcher, it would ruin your day anywho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colette5479 Posted June 26, 2005 #88 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Check out this link someone posted on another site. It definitely does happen a lot. This is the 7th time it has happened since 1/1/05. Wow. http://www.cruiseserver.net/travelpage/other/man_overboard.asp Yes, it is the 7th time this year but considering the hundreds of cruises each year and the thousands of people on board each one, this is a RARE occurance. It does not happen on every cruise. If it did, I might think of it more as common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corina27 Posted June 26, 2005 #89 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Check out this link someone posted on another site. It definitely does happen a lot. This is the 7th time it has happened since 1/1/05. Wow. http://www.cruiseserver.net/travelpage/other/man_overboard.asp Okay now we know whats happening they are balcony hopping!:) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoinCruisin Posted June 26, 2005 #90 Share Posted June 26, 2005 I get your point of it not being a large number in the whole scheme of things. But my point is that it's happened all these times and this is the first one I've heard about this year. So this is not highly publicized. What I wonder is, are these people committing suicide (Did you see the two older people on that list on the Destiny missing 2 days apart, a couple?), are they all drunk and falling off, or are the people out there committing the perfect murder and getting by with it. If even one of them was suspected to be a homocide, I'm certain it would have been in the news. And I watch CNN & Fox News on cable as well including shows such as Nancy Grace, Geraldo Rivera, Greta Vansusteran, etc. all the time. They likely would have reported it and I would have seen something. Just like this one, all of the others have been reported on these boards (generally there are about 4 million threads started about each one... just like this one ;) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colette5479 Posted June 26, 2005 #91 Share Posted June 26, 2005 That's why I felt the first post of this thread had to have some truth in it....that's how we always find out about things as such. Then it takes the media awhile to find out. It's happened like that more than once!:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernCaribbean Posted June 26, 2005 #92 Share Posted June 26, 2005 That's why I felt the first post of this thread had to have some truth in it....that's how we always find out about things as such. Then it takes the media awhile to find out. It's happened like that more than once!:p Yes, its hard for the media to get wind of a story like this because they cant board the ship and have to wait on authorities or the cruiseline to issue a statement. The best source of info are the passengers onboard sending email to folks and informing them whats going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live_2_cruise05 Posted June 26, 2005 #93 Share Posted June 26, 2005 I found this: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/rssstory.mpl/front/3241194 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corina27 Posted June 26, 2005 #94 Share Posted June 26, 2005 I found this:http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/rssstory.mpl/front/3241194 That leaves more questions then answers she not the victim of foul play and it wasnt an accidental fall...:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyImagination Posted June 26, 2005 #95 Share Posted June 26, 2005 That leaves more questions then answers she not the victim of foul play and it wasnt an accidental fall...:( No questions..she jumped. The FBI just didnt want to say she committed suicide out of respect for the family. We had agents on the ship and concluded there was no foul play involved," said Agent Luz Garcia, a spokeswoman for the FBI. "I can't really go into detail out of respect for the family but our feeling that it was not an accident." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerdog Posted June 26, 2005 #96 Share Posted June 26, 2005 My prayers and heart goes out to her husband and two teenage children. This must be VERY difficult for them: to leave on a family vacation and come home without mom. How sad!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyImagination Posted June 26, 2005 #97 Share Posted June 26, 2005 My prayers and heart goes out to her husband and two teenage children. This must be VERY difficult for them: to leave on a family vacation and come home without mom. How sad!! Yes, its truly sad. Something they will live with for the rest of their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corina27 Posted June 26, 2005 #98 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Thats awfull,I feel for the family..:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydecocruiser Posted June 26, 2005 #99 Share Posted June 26, 2005 That leaves more questions then answers she not the victim of foul play and it wasnt an accidental fall...:( It seems to leave suicide and abduction by Martians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corina27 Posted June 27, 2005 #100 Share Posted June 27, 2005 It seems to leave suicide and abduction by Martians.That must be why some people say the sea is calling them..;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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