dramaqueenjan Posted October 19, 2013 #1 Share Posted October 19, 2013 So I was reading A thread on here someone complaining about her neighbors and she said when she was in line at guest services 20 people in front of her were canceling there pre paid gratuities .. I m new to cruising Why would people do this ? When we went We had excellent service and provided an extra tip at the end 11.50 a day is hardly enough for all the staff it extends too ? I Have seen this mentioned before as well Do they wait to see if service is up to standard ??? Im just curious :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmetto Pilot Posted October 19, 2013 #2 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Some people don't like the idea of tips that are forced upon them? Anyways, congrats this will be a 20 page thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blk_Amish Posted October 19, 2013 #3 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) So I was reading A thread on here someone complaining about her neighbors and she said when she was in line at guest services 20 people in front of her were canceling there pre paid gratuities .. I m new to cruising Why would people do this ? When we went We had excellent service and provided an extra tip at the end 11.50 a day is hardly enough for all the staff it extends too ? I Have seen this mentioned before as well Do they wait to see if service is up to standard ??? Im just curious :confused: 1. gratuity - a gift of money, over and above payment due for service! For reasonable people that would make sense to receive the service before paying. Prepaying gratuity, isn't that an oxymoron? I think they are removing the auto-tip, which is added each day, but for our family of four that almost $50 per day, $350 on a 7 day cruise. It's recommended not required so it's really up to one's conscience. They are really two different things. Edited October 19, 2013 by Blk_Amish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcathome Posted October 19, 2013 #4 Share Posted October 19, 2013 obvious reason. CHEAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kona_wahine Posted October 19, 2013 #5 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Some people will look for a reason so they can cancel the tips and feel justified doing it. CHEAP!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LargeCornGyro Posted October 19, 2013 #6 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) So I was reading A thread on here someone complaining about her neighbors and she said when she was in line at guest services 20 people in front of her were canceling there pre paid gratuities .. I m new to cruising Why would people do this ? When we went We had excellent service and provided an extra tip at the end 11.50 a day is hardly enough for all the staff it extends too ? I Have seen this mentioned before as well Do they wait to see if service is up to standard ??? Im just curious :confused: You are confusing pre pay with auto tip. Pre pay is actually paying tips before you board the ship, usually made around the time you pay off your cruise. Auto tip is where they charge your sail and sign account, and you don't actually pay till after you get off the ship, unless you are paying your S&S account with cash. Some people just like to tip with cash. Any option is acceptable, and is up to the individual how they wish to extend tips. For some reason, how others tip seems to irritate others, who start calling people names if they don't tip in the same manner they do. You would think they would be more interested in finding out why they paid 25% more for their cruise than their neighbor. Edited October 19, 2013 by LargeCornGyro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise_girl2002 Posted October 19, 2013 #7 Share Posted October 19, 2013 going to go with the majority and say...CHEAP. and I don't like when others then post.."well, maybe their paying cash" yeah, maybe, but I doubt it! "I never ate in the mdr, I shouldn't have to tip that person" ok, did you eat in the lido? you get my drift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryinal Posted October 19, 2013 #8 Share Posted October 19, 2013 obvious reason. CHEAP Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamloops50 Posted October 19, 2013 #9 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Some people think they should pay a wage like that what is paid in the US or Canada. If that happened cruising would become the purview of the very rich and famous. The mass cruising like it currently exists won't exist. This also applies to all inclusive resorts in Mexico and other Caribbean countries. I have family that thinks a tip in restaurant ( four people for supper) should be $2. Simply the tourist industry as it exists now won't. Edited October 19, 2013 by Kamloops50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blk_Amish Posted October 19, 2013 #10 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) You are confusing pre pay with auto tip. Pre pay is actually paying tips before you board the ship, usually made around the time you pay off your cruise. Auto tip is where they charge your sail and sign account, and you don't actually pay till after you get off the ship, unless you are paying your S&S account with cash. Some people just like to tip with cash. Any option is acceptable, and is up to the individual how they wish to extend tips. For some reason, how others tip seems to irritate others, who start calling people names if they don't tip in the same manner they do. (so much for grown up):D You would think they would be more interested in finding out why they paid 25% more for their cruise than their neighbor. Thank you and as ALWAYS some did not read the OP post before responding....shm! Many may do auto tip but not necessarily pre pay gratuity. On RCCL we were required to pay the gratuity upfront for anytime dining but could auto tip for traditional dining. With such haste it's hard to believe who really tip at all Edited October 19, 2013 by Blk_Amish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deborah grimes Posted October 19, 2013 #11 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Some have spent to much at the Casino and drank way to much. They don't have enough money to pay the bill so they take it from the tips. I have seen this way to many times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcwingwalker Posted October 19, 2013 #12 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Some have spent to much at the Casino and drank way to much. They don't have enough money to pay the bill so they take it from the tips. I have seen this way to many times! You nailed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmetto Pilot Posted October 19, 2013 #13 Share Posted October 19, 2013 You are confusing pre pay with auto tip. Pre pay is actually paying tips before you board the ship, usually made around the time you pay off your cruise. Auto tip is where they charge your sail and sign account, and you don't actually pay till after you get off the ship, unless you are paying your S&S account with cash. Some people just like to tip with cash. Any option is acceptable, and is up to the individual how they wish to extend tips. For some reason, how others tip seems to irritate others, who start calling people names if they don't tip in the same manner they do. You would think they would be more interested in finding out why they paid 25% more for their cruise than their neighbor. Logic and common sense doesn't work on these boards....especially the Carnival forum.... But that is the real and only answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinfanatic Posted October 19, 2013 #14 Share Posted October 19, 2013 So I was reading A thread on here someone complaining about her neighbors and she said when she was in line at guest services 20 people in front of her were canceling there pre paid gratuities .. I m new to cruising Why would people do this ? When we went We had excellent service and provided an extra tip at the end 11.50 a day is hardly enough for all the staff it extends too ? I Have seen this mentioned before as well Do they wait to see if service is up to standard ??? Im just curious :confused: Saw that post to. Would like to know how that poster knows that the 20 people in line in front of them was removing their tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LargeCornGyro Posted October 19, 2013 #15 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Saw that post to. Would like to know how that poster knows that the 20 people in line in front of them was removing their tips. Or how all those in the casino and drinkers are sharing what they are doing with tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted October 19, 2013 #16 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Folks also mistakenly believe that prepaid tips are paying for something before receiving anything. They don't seem to get that when guests choose to prepay for their own convenience, the crew does not receive the tips until after the cruise. Of course, the fact the anti group prepays for the cruise before " receiving anything" does not seem to penetrate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHP Posted October 19, 2013 #17 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Unfortunately, some do not realize these are not traditional tips as we understand it in the US. Cruise lines use the word gratuity and handle it this way in compliance US labor tax laws..but make no mistake, this is not a tip. It is their salary. Personally I wish they would call it what it really is...a service surcharge. NCL has already changed their verbiage to Service Surcharge ..... IF Carnival included it in their price, then there would be tax implications ....which we the customer would ultimately pay in higher cruise prices. As long as people want the privilege of cruising, then they should follow the protocol. Cabin stewards and wait staff should not have to work for free....because someone does not like the way cruise lines handle their salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvercrikhix Posted October 19, 2013 #18 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Must agree that the definitive answer is CHEAP! :mad: Followed by overextended financially for whatever reason! Evil/Greedy may apply to some, too. The cheapest 3-4 day cruises will attract those with less disposable income and will be more likely to remove their tips. Must disagree with the notion that gamblers are broke as a reason. There are, believe it or not, people who like gambling as a form of entertainment, the chase, the thrill, whatever. And they are not broke, but may be Cheap, too! Disagree with partiers having drunk all there money too. Maybe some do, but most people who pay for a cruise and all that that entails, including some drinking can afford it. They are also cheap! We drink & gamble and tip above and beyond the auto-tips, some more than others depending upon their service AND attitude, helpfulness, etc.... Edited October 19, 2013 by silvercrikhix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHP Posted October 19, 2013 #19 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Btw, it is not hard to hear folks removing their tips.... Some "say" they are paying in cash. I assure you (according with the many staff I have talked with) that is not the case. Way to many are getting stiffed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LargeCornGyro Posted October 19, 2013 #20 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Unfortunately, some do not realize these are not traditional tips as we understand it in the US. Cruise lines use the word gratuity and handle it this way in compliance US labor tax laws..but make no mistake, this is not a tip. It is their salary. Personally I wish they would call it what it really is...a service surcharge. NCL has already changed their verbiage to Service Surcharge ..... IF Carnival included it in their price, then there would be tax implications ....which we the customer would ultimately pay in higher cruise prices. As long as people want the privilege of cruising, then they should follow the protocol. Cabin stewards and wait staff should not have to work for free....because someone does not like the way cruise lines handle their salary. Privilege? Anyone can cruise. And anyone can tip, along the lines of how they tip anywhere, based on service. And they are tips just like in any service industry, except these individuals get room and board. And MOST important, anyone taking this job gets explained to them EXACTLY how their "pay" works. Then they decide. Edited October 19, 2013 by LargeCornGyro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futoi Posted October 19, 2013 #21 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I agree with all the people that said "People are Cheap". Its ridiculous to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patto1000 Posted October 19, 2013 #22 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Some people don't like the idea of tips that are forced upon them? Anyways, congrats this will be a 20 page thread. Lol could even reach 30 pages :) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconoclast Posted October 19, 2013 #23 Share Posted October 19, 2013 So I was reading A thread on here someone complaining about her neighbors and she said when she was in line at guest services 20 people in front of her were canceling there pre paid gratuities .. I m new to cruising Why would people do this ? When we went We had excellent service and provided an extra tip at the end 11.50 a day is hardly enough for all the staff it extends too ? I Have seen this mentioned before as well Do they wait to see if service is up to standard ??? Im just curious :confused: I asked this question maybe a month ago and was terrified to post again for two or three weeks. :-) I have concluded that some people just spend more than they expect or lose a few hundred at the casino and cancel tips. The weirdest justifications are that the company, not the passengers, should be paying (if they built it into your fare would you be saving anything?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blk_Amish Posted October 19, 2013 #24 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) It's funny reading here that people are cheap when the rest of the cruise world thinks Carnival cruisers are cheap, or like that 'other' place. One kind of cheapness verses another kind still spells cheap. I wish they would include the tip/charge in the rate and be over and done. If Carnival does this (but the other lines don't) the fare would be higher and we would be cheap no more. If you cruise Carnival = cheap If you cruise Carnival but don't tip = cheaper If you book the cheap fare, don't tip and don't spend any money = cheapest Edited October 19, 2013 by Blk_Amish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tithonus Posted October 19, 2013 #25 Share Posted October 19, 2013 I asked this question maybe a month ago and was terrified to post again for two or three weeks. :-) I have concluded that some people just spend more than they expect or lose a few hundred at the casino and cancel tips. ) This would only make sense if tips were still in cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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