Are children allowed in lounges?

[Seaside2358]

I was scrolling down the main thread really fast and I thought the post said "Are children allowed in luggage"......lmao.

 

Too funny! That's what I thought it said lol!

[PORT ROYAL]

As opposed to the feral rats that masquerade as adults .

 

How true - How true ;)

[Ladysilver]

We saw a family sitting at a table playing a board game in the Viking Crown Lounge. There was just a few people there and it was about 8 pm. We didn't have a problem with it at all. The two kids were well behaved. :)

[Onessa]

Would you really take your children to a lounge at home???

Yes. I grew up in a small town, and the bar is the local gathering place. I spent many an evening at a table in the corner with my friends while our parents played cards or bowled. I graduated college with honors; have held down a good job all the years of my adult life; and if, I drink a half glass a wine once a month, I would be surprised. Definately not scarred for life or anything.

 

My DH is from a tiny town, and the bar is the local gathering spot -- we have a cabin up there and my DD has accompanied us there her whole life. DH is 63YO and having endured spending time at a bar during his childhood still managed to become a fully functioning member of society. Neither he nor any of his four brothers have ever had any dependency on alcohol or other substances and the one brother is an airline pilot who passes regular random screenings for drugs and alcohol.

 

DD is 18 - a senior in high school -- no drugs/no alcohol (she is an athelete and also gets random drug tests). Perfect GPA with multiple AP and college classes (GPA of 4.425 out of 4.0). No gothe clothes or tatoos or multiple piercings even (not that outward appearances are that important or anything). So far, she has been able to "survive" having spent a couple of evenings a month in "bars" throughout the summer and fall. And many evenings during the summer, we may build a bon fire on the beach so she and her cousins and friends will be out playing in the sand, while only feet away adults may be drinking a beer :eek:

 

If anything, seeing some adults drinking moderately is a good thing. Seeing how stupid someone who has drunk too much can act is also a good learning experience. Socalizing with other people, is definately a good thing. Spending time with your extended family is good.

 

These aren't biker bars (although some of the nicest people I've ever met are bikers -- it is more the stereo-typical repulation of biker bar I'm going for here). These are not strip joints. These aren't singles bars. The lounges on ships that are not specifically "adults only" are no better or worse place to sit and converse and maybe play a game than anywhere else.

Edited December 19, 2013 by Onessa

[raerenee]

Yes. I grew up in a small town, and the bar is the local gathering place. I spent many an evening at a table in the corner with my friends while our parents played cards or bowled. I graduated college with honors; have held down a good job all the years of my adult life; and if, I drink a half glass a wine once a month, I would be surprised. Definately not scarred for life or anything.

 

My DH is from a tiny town, and the bar is the local gathering spot -- we have a cabin up there and my DD has accompanied us there her whole life. DH is 63YO and having endured spending time at a bar during his childhood still managed to become a fully functioning member of society. Neither he nor any of his four brothers have ever had any dependency on alcohol or other substances and the one brother is an airline pilot who passes regular random screenings for drugs and alcohol.

 

DD is 18 - a senior in high school -- no drugs/no alcohol (she is an athelete and also gets random drug tests). Perfect GPA with multiple AP and college classes (GPA of 4.425 out of 4.0). No gothe clothes or tatoos or multiple piercings even (not that outward appearances are that important or anything). So far, she has been able to "survive" having spent a couple of evenings a month in "bars" throughout the summer and fall. And many evenings during the summer, we may build a bon fire on the beach so she and her cousins and friends will be out playing in the sand, while only feet away adults may be drinking a beer :eek:

 

If anything, seeing some adults drinking moderately is a good thing. Seeing how stupid someone who has drunk too much can act is also a good learning experience. Socalizing with other people, is definately a good thing. Spending time with your extended family is good.

 

These aren't biker bars (although some of the nicest people I've ever met are bikers -- it is more the stereo-typical repulation of biker bar I'm going for here). These are not strip joints. These aren't singles bars. The lounges on ships that are not specifically "adults only" are no better or worse place to sit and converse and maybe play a game than anywhere else.

 

very well said. thank you

[Proseknitic]

Just back from 2 weeks on AOS. We went to the "overflow" Diamond Lounge up on 14 rather than the CL because the view was so much nicer than the enclosed CL. Children were occasionally present during the cocktail hour and we asked one of the bartenders about it because I thought (like someone else posted above) that kids were not allowed during that time. He told me that they had changed the rules and they were now allowed at any time.

Interesting - just finished 56 days on the Radiance. Children (many of the overindulged feral kind) in the CL which drove most of us D+ to the DL for the last two cruises.

 

The problem is really the parents. I don't mind well behaved children or teens, and we wound up with one lovely young man (aged 14) occasionally stopping by to check on his mum. But parents who bring crawling infants and toddlers to the lounge and let them raise havoc are a real problem for everyone. I know they bring them because they don't have child care and because they have a gold card.

 

One of the other issues which has not been mentioned so far is the difficulty of enforcing "use of tongs" at the snacks. Exactly how likely is it that a grubby hand reaching into the middle of a plate has been washed - especially on a cruise that Noro has been an issue.

 

I think children in lounges is more than simply an issue of alcohol. It can be a matter or health, safety and language (who was it that mentioned feral drinking "adults"?)

 

-Holly

whose kids grew up where the allowable age was 16...

[DiamondSuiteCruiser]

 

and uhh those of us who paid for our suites have every right to enjoy a small time span in an adult only setting. the little darlings are welcome the other 22.5 hours of the day, is it really such a huge burden/insult/outrage that parents are asked to not bring them during the pre dinner cocktail hour? I remember very clearly being sent upstairs to my bedroom and told to stay there when my parents had cocktail parties. I am pretty sure I wasn't scarred for life.

 

Agree totally.

[Lilyrosemum]

Interesting - just finished 56 days on the Radiance. Children (many of the overindulged feral kind) in the CL which drove most of us D+ to the DL for the last two cruises.

 

The problem is really the parents. I don't mind well behaved children or teens, and we wound up with one lovely young man (aged 14) occasionally stopping by to check on his mum. But parents who bring crawling infants and toddlers to the lounge and let them raise havoc are a real problem for everyone. I know they bring them because they don't have child care and because they have a gold card.

 

One of the other issues which has not been mentioned so far is the difficulty of enforcing "use of tongs" at the snacks. Exactly how likely is it that a grubby hand reaching into the middle of a plate has been washed - especially on a

cruise that Noro has been an issue.

 

I think children in lounges is more than simply an issue of alcohol. It can be a matter or health, safety and language (who was it that mentioned feral drinking "adults"?)

 

-Holly

whose kids grew up where the allowable age was 16...

 

The last "grubby hand" I saw reaching into the middle of a plate was an adult woman in the Windjammer on the Liberty of the Seas. She would pick food up with her hands and taste it before she would decide if she wanted some. With manners like that I am not sure whether her hands were washed. I was directly behind her and after a minute or two of this I quickly left the line. Talk about Noro and health issues.

 

Many children are more well mannered than many adults. Please stop the discrimination on here of children, many of whom pay a fare higher than adults on the same cruise.

[connes1]

The last "grubby hand" I saw reaching into the middle of a plate was an adult woman in the Windjammer on the Liberty of the Seas. She would pick food up with her hands and taste it before she would decide if she wanted some. With manners like that I am not sure whether her hands were washed. I was directly behind her and after a minute or two of this I quickly left the line. Talk about Noro and health issues.

 

Many children are more well mannered than many adults. Please stop the discrimination on here of children, many of whom pay a fare higher than adults on the same cruise.

 

Agree thanks for the post:-)

 

 

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[dfgf]

Ironically the people who cruise with children are the people most in need of a drink. Cut us some slack! :o

[ginadc]

Thanks John! This is has been an interesting thread. I guess I must be one of those "bad" parents because my DD12 has been singing and playing guitar in bars since she was 9 with a local rock school. My friends who have kids in sports are so jealous because I get to sit at a bar, eat and enjoy a glass of wine while my kid does her "thing". No cold outdoor sports watching for me!:) I was hoping I could take her to see some of the musicians playing in the lounges. I promise to not take her to the adults only venues!

 

Note to self: encourage kids to pursue guitar/bass/piano lessons. We do have a "School of Rock" right here in town...

[DrD]

I don't bring my kids to lounges at home because I never go to lounges at home.

 

Also, all available evidence suggests that alcoholism is a disease and not the result of the way kids are brought up. It can seem that way since it is hereditary, so the child's parent or parents could have been heavy drinkers also.

 

But based on good adoption/twin studies upbringing has no effect on whether one will be an alcoholic or not.

 

More on topic, many of the "lounges" on cruise ships aren't discrete rooms but a collection of chairs in a well-traveled area. It's kind of hard to keep kids "out" of those places.

[babyher]

I don't bring my kids to lounges at home because I never go to lounges at home.

 

Also, all available evidence suggests that alcoholism is a disease and not the result of the way kids are brought up. It can seem that way since it is hereditary, so the child's parent or parents could have been heavy drinkers also.

 

But based on good adoption/twin studies upbringing has no effect on whether one will be an alcoholic or not.

 

More on topic, many of the "lounges" on cruise ships aren't discrete rooms but a collection of chairs in a well-traveled area. It's kind of hard to keep kids "out" of those places.

 

 

And then I know people who never or rarely ever took a drink, didn't have alcoholism in their family. Then a tragedy or heartbreak hits them in adult life and they have been stewed to the gills since the day it happened .

 

 

I know peole whose parents were real heavy hitters and now don't touch a drop. They don't want to put their kids through what they went through.

 

 

So these studies are what they are.

[RSLeesburg]

Ironically the people who cruise with children are the people most in need of a drink. Cut us some slack! :o

 

So true! Also, it does not help that cocktail hour is scheduled when AO is closed and in-room baby sitting is not available, so there is no option but to bring your kids if you want a free drink. I suppose you could let them run wild, but that's another thread ;).

[celle]

I don't see that there is any problem with having children in lounges on cruise ships. Most of the lounges are just that - lounges with comfortable seating, for people to sit and chat and socialise. Places for families to meet and discuss the day's happenings. Sometimes the lounges are the only places a child can get a soft drink in the evening.

 

There is often a bar area, where some adults like to sit, and that area should probably be left for adults only.

 

However, cruise ship lounges are not sleazy bars where drunken adults hang out. There is nothing inherently detrimental to a child there. In fact, I think it is good for children to see adults using alcohol responsibly.

 

If there were drunken adults making a nuisance of themselves in a lounge I would remove my children, but I think the drunken adults should also be removed.

 

So, to the OP, your children can come in to a lounge while you buy yourself a drink. They could also sit in the lounge and have a soft drink while you consume your drink.

[connes1]

When traveling with a 3 year old a glass of wine is well appreciated

 

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[Catperson]

Young children should never be allowed to graze the food in the CL, the parents should select the food for the kids. Kids love to pick up food, examine it and then put it back for something else.:mad:

[Nunagoras]

I don't see that there is any problem with having children in lounges on cruise ships. Most of the lounges are just that - lounges with comfortable seating, for people to sit and chat and socialise. Places for families to meet and discuss the day's happenings. Sometimes the lounges are the only places a child can get a soft drink in the evening.

 

There is often a bar area, where some adults like to sit, and that area should probably be left for adults only.

 

However, cruise ship lounges are not sleazy bars where drunken adults hang out. There is nothing inherently detrimental to a child there. In fact, I think it is good for children to see adults using alcohol responsibly.

 

If there were drunken adults making a nuisance of themselves in a lounge I would remove my children, but I think the drunken adults should also be removed.

 

So, to the OP, your children can come in to a lounge while you buy yourself a drink. They could also sit in the lounge and have a soft drink while you consume your drink.

 

Exactly! Or, perharps RCI may eventually have what is becoming common on many European venues and on the Italian cruise lines that is to have a kids menu on the main children friendly lounges, where your children can find their favorite non alcoholic beverages like soft drinks or non alcoholic cocktails. Of course they will not have those kids menus on the casino, the adult disco or the wine and champagne bars or other adult only place.

[babyher]

Young children should never be allowed to graze the food in the CL, the parents should select the food for the kids. Kids love to pick up food, examine it and then put it back for something else.:mad:

 

 

 

Something adults NEVER do

[Wilda]

Yes the kids can go into the lounge when you drop by for a drink. As long as they don't occupy a seat at the bar this is a non issue.

 

The only lounge I am not sure about is the Rising Tide lounge (Oasis and Allure).

[sleepless]

Young children should never be allowed to graze the food in the CL, the parents should select the food for the kids. Kids love to pick up food, examine it and then put it back for something else.:mad:

 

Is the CL food more special then foods in other areas of the ship?

 

My suggestion would be for the parent to accompany the child, and teach them the proper way to select food from the buffet - be it the CL, the Windjammer or else where. How else are they to learn proper behaviors and manners.