Snobby Passengers??

[ducklite]

When on RC try and steer clear of the display and containment area known as the CL, this is where they are usually to be found from around 16.00 onwards, just to hog a seat to await the dispensing of free drinks. Not all in the CL are snobs.

 

When we were on RCCL we went to the concierge lounge a couple of times. Frankly it was wasn't worth battling the crowd to get a glass of cheap wine and dried out, lukewarm appetizers.

 

The second night we visited, we sat down next to a couple who was bragging about their suite and how large it was. It was kind of funny when they finally came off their hayride and asked what cabin we were staying in and we told them we were in the RS (which really wasn't anything to brag about imho). :D

[temple1]

When we were on RCCL we went to the concierge lounge a couple of times. Frankly it was wasn't worth battling the crowd to get a glass of cheap wine and dried out, lukewarm appetizers.

 

The second night we visited, we sat down next to a couple who was bragging about their suite and how large it was. It was kind of funny when they finally came off their hayride and asked what cabin we were staying in and we told them we were in the RS (which really wasn't anything to brag about imho). :D

 

:confused: They were bragging and you needed to bring them down a notch by bragging that your cabin was better than theirs, but it wasn't really anything to write home about??? :rolleyes:

 

I find there are all kinds of snobs - the reverse snobbery celebrated by those who think they should walk around looking like something the cat drug up yesterday and that no one should notice.

 

There are the folks who are snobbish about their money and don't want to make people uncomfortable with their money so they never associate with others.

 

I'm not really sure what the OP meant by being concerned with snobbish people. She posted that she is somewhat shy and reserved so she should not be worried about walking up and introducing herself to strangers and have the fear of being rebuffed by strangers, because that is not in her nature to be that out going. Is she afraid people are going to look her up and down and try and decide whether she bought her dress at Walmart or Bloomingdales? So I can't quite decide how to respond.

 

I tend to be aloof and I've noticed at events on the ships that people tend to congregate and talk to people they know. That is like it is in life. My chief complaint at conferences is everyone from the same office or club will sit together and not mingle with individuals attending from other locations. What a shame, such great opportunities to make new friends and network is lost. Is it snobbery to not sit with a stranger and make a new friend? Not necessarily.

Edited June 9, 2014 by temple1

[Margy23]

I haven't been on RCCL in 5 years, but when we were on it, it was no different than what we've experienced with Carnival. You will find all types of people on any cruise. Just ignore them the best you can and enjoy your vacation.

 

And this also includes the staff. We didn't interact with the staff as much on RCCL as we do with Carnival (our choice), but the best waitress (or waiter) we've ever had was on the RCCL Jewel.

 

Steve

Was it by chance Catalina or Suzette? We haven't cruised on Jewel since she left Tampa for San Juan, but I still remember that we knew the cruise was going to be wonderful when we saw one of them.

 

On one cruise we were just entering the terminal in Tampa when we heard, "Margaret, Richard" and they were both approaching us with big hugs. They were in the terminal pushing wheelchairs for passengers who needed them and happened to see us come in.

 

Catalina and Suzette were exceptional, but in our five cruises on Jewel we never encountered a crew member we considered less than excellent. My feeling is that the attitude comes from the top and that the captains were unusually effective leaders.

 

To the people who first asked the question, I think you will find good passengers and crew members on all cruise lines and bad passengers and crew members on all cruise lines - for us, we believe the key to a great cruise experience is to enjoy the good and avoid the bad as much as possible and not take ourselves too seriously.

[PoppyandNana]

:confused: They were bragging and you needed to bring them down a notch by bragging that your cabin was better than theirs, but it wasn't really anything to write home about??? :rolleyes:

 

I find there are all kinds of snobs - the reverse snobbery celebrated by those who think they should walk around looking like something the cat drug up yesterday and that no one should notice.

 

There are the folks who are snobbish about their money and don't want to make people uncomfortable with their money so they never associate with others.

 

I'm not really sure what the OP meant by being concerned with snobbish people. She posted that she is somewhat shy and reserved so she should not be worried about walking up and introducing herself to strangers and have the fear of being rebuffed by strangers, because that is not in her nature to be that out going. Is she afraid people are going to look her up and down and try and decide whether she bought her dress at Walmart or Bloomingdales? So I can't quite decide how to respond.

 

I tend to be aloof and I've noticed at events on the ships that people tend to congregate and talk to people they know. That is like it is in life. My chief complaint at conferences is everyone from the same office or club will sit together and not mingle with individuals attending from other locations. What a shame, such great opportunities to make new friends and network is lost. Is it snobbery to not sit with a stranger and make a new friend? Not necessarily.

 

So often I look at all the tables of two looking enviously at the tables of 8 or 10 who are laughing and joking, generally having a great time while they sit there glumly. The people at the large tables were generally strangers until the first night. I have seen so many nice people draw the most reserved and shy into the conversation who are soon not so shy.

[temple1]

So often I look at all the tables of two looking enviously at the tables of 8 or 10 who are laughing and joking, generally having a great time while they sit there glumly. The people at the large tables were generally strangers until the first night. I have seen so many nice people draw the most reserved and shy into the conversation who are soon not so shy.

 

We had the best time at our table for 8 on our last cruise with just 6 of us. We were 3 separate couples the first evening. We shut down the dining room almost every night!

[ducklite]

:confused: They were bragging and you needed to bring them down a notch by bragging that your cabin was better than theirs, but it wasn't really anything to write home about??? :rolleyes:

 

They asked what cabin we were in. We told them. If they hadn't asked, we wouldn't have mentioned it. Again, they asked. Would you suggest we should have lied? :rolleyes:

 

No, the RS on the Mariner was nothing to write home about. There were many maintenance problems, and at one point the ships sewer system backed up into the shower in the bathroom. Fortunately I wasn't in it at the time. It was the largest cabin we've ever sailed in, but the worst as far as furnishings, wear and tear, and general maintenance.

[ducklite]

So often I look at all the tables of two looking enviously at the tables of 8 or 10 who are laughing and joking, generally having a great time while they sit there glumly. The people at the large tables were generally strangers until the first night. I have seen so many nice people draw the most reserved and shy into the conversation who are soon not so shy.

 

We like ships with open seating. Some nights we want to be part of a group, other nights we'd prefer to dine alone--and we don't want to have to order room service to do so. There's no envy when we've chosen to sit by ourselves some nights.

Edited June 9, 2014 by ducklite

[Xina143]

:confused: They were bragging and you needed to bring them down a notch by bragging that your cabin was better than theirs, but it wasn't really anything to write home about??? :rolleyes:

 

 

 

I find there are all kinds of snobs - the reverse snobbery celebrated by those who think they should walk around looking like something the cat drug up yesterday and that no one should notice.

 

 

 

There are the folks who are snobbish about their money and don't want to make people uncomfortable with their money so they never associate with others.

 

 

 

I'm not really sure what the OP meant by being concerned with snobbish people. She posted that she is somewhat shy and reserved so she should not be worried about walking up and introducing herself to strangers and have the fear of being rebuffed by strangers, because that is not in her nature to be that out going. Is she afraid people are going to look her up and down and try and decide whether she bought her dress at Walmart or Bloomingdales? So I can't quite decide how to respond.

 

 

 

I tend to be aloof and I've noticed at events on the ships that people tend to congregate and talk to people they know. That is like it is in life. My chief complaint at conferences is everyone from the same office or club will sit together and not mingle with individuals attending from other locations. What a shame, such great opportunities to make new friends and network is lost. Is it snobbery to not sit with a stranger and make a new friend? Not necessarily.

 

I meant, quite simply am I going to have to listen to a bunch of pretentious snobs on my vacation. As many seem to be implying is the case

 

Is the staff aloof and uncaring?

 

And I said I was reserved and don't always seek to make new friends, I didn't say I was an unfriendly, social misfit that doesn't know how to behave in public and yet some on another board want to imply that many on RCCL are exactly like that.

 

Will I change my mind and cancel the cruise? Of course not! Will I form my own opinion? You bet. I was simply inquiring what others thought as I found it hard to believe that an entire cruise ship is made up of snobs.

 

As to my dress-*shrugs* I know I look nice because my dress comes from neither Walmart nor Bloomies.

 

( yes that was sarcasm, I'm snobby about my purses not my clothes)

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[Xina143]

So often I look at all the tables of two looking enviously at the tables of 8 or 10 who are laughing and joking, generally having a great time while they sit there glumly. The people at the large tables were generally strangers until the first night. I have seen so many nice people draw the most reserved and shy into the conversation who are soon not so shy.

 

 

Do you are the couples gazing longingly into each other's eyes? Holding hands across the table...

 

Sometimes it's great to be in the mix, but for us we get so little time alone to really focus on each other, that A quiet dinner is great.

 

We will get right into it at the nightclub and casino though!

 

 

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[temple1]

I meant, quite simply am I going to have to listen to a bunch of pretentious snobs on my vacation. As many seem to be implying is the case

 

Is the staff aloof and uncaring?

 

And I said I was reserved and don't always seek to make new friends, I didn't say I was an unfriendly, social misfit that doesn't know how to behave in public and yet some on another board want to imply that many on RCCL are exactly like that.

 

Will I change my mind and cancel the cruise? Of course not! Will I form my own opinion? You bet. I was simply inquiring what others thought as I found it hard to believe that an entire cruise ship is made up of snobs.

 

As to my dress-*shrugs* I know I look nice because my dress comes from neither Walmart nor Bloomies.

 

( yes that was sarcasm, I'm snobby about my purses not my clothes)

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Much of what was posted was also in reply to some of the more ridiculous postings to this topic - that was the clothing and what is a snob post. Most people I know don't care where I shop. People I've met on a cruise ship or elsewhere is not a concern either. Just me, my cc and DH. ;)

 

If you go to a lounge for frequent cruisers on any ship or any hotel you will hear pretentious snobs. You seem to read a lot more into my post than was there. I never implied anyone was a social misfit - just that in any gathering of people - individuals will tend to gravitate to the known. People they know. I have met some great folks by participating in the roll call for cruises. That is the best way - break the ice before setting foot on the ship.

 

By staff - do you mean ships officers or the rank and file folks who actually take care of passengers? If you mean the rank and file - they are great. They are responsive to needs and I've never had an issue with anyone entrusted to the care of passengers. Am I a fan of officers? Not really. But they are not there to ensure my enjoyment of the cruise.

[jonbgd]

Hey, Johnny Be Good, by the time you have paid for 12 to 15 cruises it's nice to be able to have a free drink or two. I'm not a big fan of the lounges though. On our March cruise, three drinks were loaded into the card and you could drink them at any bar between 4:30 and 8:30. How far are you from Diamond. We have been cruising eight years now. If you do one a year, it will take you about the same amount of time.

 

 

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Hi Karen I was making a joke

We are Diamond but Im also Platinum on Carnival So these threads make me shake my head :confused:

[internetwhiz]

This one especially. We had such a great bunch on our May RC sailing.

 

 

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[BeagleOne]

I've been on a dozen cruises/crossings and have never really noticed the snobs, if indeed there were any on board. What I find really entertaining are the snobs and "experts on every subject" on the internet, and I find them even more entertaining when they use pseudonyms and are therefore unidentifiable, and really, who is impressed by bragging anyway?

 

The attempts at disguised snobbery are the most entertaining, e.g. "Well, I'm glad YOU'RE happy on ABC cruise line/at XYZ resort, *I* could never be happy there!" etc. Or the assumption that because someone cruises on a particular cruise line or goes to a particular destination, they must be a particular kind of person...and the assumption is hardly ever complimentary. Or the assumption that because something costs more, it must be better/more impressive. So sad that some people are that shallow and/or insecure.

[DarthGrady]

I haven't seen much snobbery on RCI, and I have met some really nice people on both cruise lines. The crowd is a bit different on RCI than CCL. Carnival tends to attract a younger clientele, especially on the short cruises. Its more of of a party atmosphere, but Royal also gets that to a certain degree on the weekend cruises. The last few years Royal has really ramped-up their efforts to attract younger families, so the lines have been blurred even further.

[kymbakitty]

We've found that on cruises with a lot of people from the West coast, they are not very friendly. They ignore you, are unfriendly, and will just step right in front of you when you are in the buffet line etc. When coming back from a repositioning Hawaiian cruise through Vancouver, a customs agent made the comment that we must not be from California, we were too friendly.:)

 

I can't believe what I just read. So I reread it to my DH. He said, "wow.....that guy must have been from New York, " and we both cracked up.

 

You must see how silly it is to say people from a certain part of the country are unfriendly. Just like it's silly to assume folks from New York all chew gum and talk really loud and swear profusely.

 

You also realize a majority of residents of California are not natives of California (me--Pennsyvania and hubby--Ontario, Canada).

 

What a funny post. Scary funny, but funny all the same.

[kymbakitty]

So often I look at all the tables of two looking enviously at the tables of 8 or 10 who are laughing and joking, generally having a great time while they sit there glumly. The people at the large tables were generally strangers until the first night. I have seen so many nice people draw the most reserved and shy into the conversation who are soon not so shy.

 

This may be one of the most presumptuous posts I've ever read. More like ridiculous.

 

There are no more couples looking longingly at a large table than there are people from a large group looking longingly at a small table wishing they were there!

 

If you want to sit with a large group of people, you request to do just that. Most, if not all, tables for two are occupied by couples that specifically requested a table for two.

 

Perhaps the decibel level coming from a table of 8-10 was so high that the couple that chooses to spend an intimate dinner alone couldn't even hear what their spouse said so they looked over to see where all the noise was coming from.

 

I think it's great when tables get together and muck it up. But I guarantee, I'm not looking over longingly, wishing I was part of your group.

 

How silly.

[jstraw20]

Sometimes it's a matter of perspective: the snob on day 1 becomes the boor on day 3 becomes the running joke on day 5.

 

That said, we did indeed see what qualified as a pair of genuine snobs on our last cruise: a couple marched up to the Champagne Bar on Explorer one evening and interrupted the bartender... "We're Diamond and we're entitled to free wine."

 

It's hard to explain how it's possible to pour wine in a sarcastic manner, but the bartender managed to. It was hysterical :p

[ducklite]

I've been on a dozen cruises/crossings and have never really noticed the snobs, if indeed there were any on board. What I find really entertaining are the snobs and "experts on every subject" on the internet, and I find them even more entertaining when they use pseudonyms and are therefore unidentifiable, and really, who is impressed by bragging anyway?

 

 

 

The attempts at disguised snobbery are the most entertaining, e.g. "Well, I'm glad YOU'RE happy on ABC cruise line/at XYZ resort, *I* could never be happy there!" etc. Or the assumption that because someone cruises on a particular cruise line or goes to a particular destination, they must be a particular kind of person...and the assumption is hardly ever complimentary. Or the assumption that because something costs more, it must be better/more impressive. So sad that some people are that shallow and/or insecure.

 

 

Why would you consider that snobbery? We would never be happy on Carnival OR Crystal, neither offers the type of cruise or environment that we prefer. People choose cruises for any number of reasons from ports to menus to dress code to onboard activities. Are you saying that having preferences in regard to these makes one a snob? Don't you have any preferences in your life? Would you want to spend your vacation time and money on something that wouldn't fit your wants and needs?

 

Personally I'm happy if people have found a line they like. That said, I think that it's a good idea to cruise on another line at some point just to be able to reinforce that your line if choice is actually as good as you think it is.

 

The thing that kills me is when people complain bitterly about a given lines policies, food, staff, ports, etc., yet continue to cruise them--often because of their frequent guest status or attempts to make the next level. It's possible that this is the highest form of snobbery. It completely puzzles me that someone would regularly complain about a line yet continue to throw money at them.

[Adayatatime]

So often I look at all the tables of two looking enviously at the tables of 8 or 10 who are laughing and joking, generally having a great time while they sit there glumly. The people at the large tables were generally strangers until the first night. I have seen so many nice people draw the most reserved and shy into the conversation who are soon not so shy.

 

 

I'm never envious of any group size - its quality not quantity. Isn't that what we tell our kids? It's not how popular you look, its who your genuine friends are.

 

Personally (and everyone is entitled to their own ideas of social activity) I love sitting with just my Hubbie on our cruises. I really don't want to network. I love adhoc conversations with strangers (last year I was watching dolphins and another woman was there and after about half an hour I knew all about her life, and it was lovely, like reading a chapter of a book). Then we said goodbye and moved on.

 

An ex colleague of mine always talked in numbers. She used to tell us how many she had for a dinner party, how many people she went on holiday with etc.

 

Please don't think all those in twos who are desperately in love are envious of how many people are seated on other tables. They really are not looking.

[rjrpar]

Been on both cuise lines twice in the last 2 years. There are a few jerks on every ship but the clientele on both RCCL and Carnival is very similar. There is really no reason to even think otherwise; both are mass market lines, traveling to the same ports and charging similar prices. Are customers at Fridays any different than Applebee's???

[bigque]

 

The thing that kills me is when people complain bitterly about a given lines policies, food, staff, ports, etc., yet continue to cruise them--often because of their frequent guest status or attempts to make the next level. It's possible that this is the highest form of snobbery. It completely puzzles me that someone would regularly complain about a line yet continue to throw money at them.

 

[Xina143]

This one especially. We had such a great bunch on our May RC sailing.

 

 

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Take a gander at some of the other boards. It's quite easy to are that many say this. Not sure why a simple question has you shaking your head...

 

 

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[PoppyandNana]

I'm never envious of any group size - its quality not quantity. Isn't that what we tell our kids? It's not how popular you look, its who your genuine friends are.

 

Personally (and everyone is entitled to their own ideas of social activity) I love sitting with just my Hubbie on our cruises. I really don't want to network. I love adhoc conversations with strangers (last year I was watching dolphins and another woman was there and after about half an hour I knew all about her life, and it was lovely, like reading a chapter of a book). Then we said goodbye and moved on.

 

An ex colleague of mine always talked in numbers. She used to tell us how many she had for a dinner party, how many people she went on holiday with etc.

 

Please don't think all those in twos who are desperately in love are envious of how many people are seated on other tables. They really are not looking.

 

My point addressed those people who commented they are shy and reserved. Further, at large tables most people are good at including all in the conversation. I have seen many twosome fully engrossed in each other and oblivious to the goings around them. I have also seen many twosomes bored to tears with each other and look on enviously at the large tables laughing and having a great time.

[Xina143]

My point addressed those people who commented they are shy and reserved. Further, at large tables most people are good at including all in the conversation. I have seen many twosome fully engrossed in each other and oblivious to the goings around them. I have also seen many twosomes bored to tears with each other and look on enviously at the large tables laughing and having a great time.

 

 

I consider myself shy and reserved sometimes and can't say I have EVER gazed longingly at a larger table and been jealous.

 

I've sat at large tables and been embarrassed at the display some make of themselves, but I've never longed to join one.

 

A tad presumptuous to think you can read the minds of others don't you think?

 

 

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[PoppyandNana]

Sometimes it's a matter of perspective: the snob on day 1 becomes the boor on day 3 becomes the running joke on day 5.

 

That said, we did indeed see what qualified as a pair of genuine snobs on our last cruise: a couple marched up to the Champagne Bar on Explorer one evening and interrupted the bartender... "We're Diamond and we're entitled to free wine."

 

It's hard to explain how it's possible to pour wine in a sarcastic manner, but the bartender managed to. It was hysterical :p

 

On the flip side we were seated with a really nice couple on a Baltic cruise. Down to earth, friendly and engaging. Wasn't until the 4th day, and quite by accident did it come out that they are extremely wealthy, has his own plane and residences in NY, FL and CO. We ended up paling around the rest of the cruise.

 

Seems to me that the more money people have the less pretentious they are. It's the wannabes that project their wished for life style.