PompeySailor Posted June 26, 2014 #126 Share Posted June 26, 2014 No need to read the 120 posts that have piled up here already. Blah blah blah blah blah...........:rolleyes: Another Choice for the individual, don't read them:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy Posted June 26, 2014 #127 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Where do you see that rule? I apologize...I just looked at my most recent Compasses and I was mistaken. RCI doesn't have that restriction -- it must have been on Holland America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adayatatime Posted June 26, 2014 #128 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Don't get me started on perfume allergy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adayatatime Posted June 26, 2014 #129 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Some of them have been interesting....but thanks for your contribution. Lol :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted June 26, 2014 #130 Share Posted June 26, 2014 No overdramatic at all. Some people are severely allergic or have health issues where smoke affects breathing, so yes, it can ruin a trip in their eyes. Exactly! I have very well controlled asthma but when I am starting to get a cold or during hayfever season, many smells can set me off. Smoke is one of my major triggers but so is perfume, aerosals and strong cleaners. Some cruises I can go in the casino, others we plan our route to avoid it. I have had to leave church when a smoker has sat in front of me and reeked of smoke, but I have also had to leave because of someone showering in perfume or cologne. If I avoided going everywhere that I might encounter something that will trigger my asthma, I would never leave my house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeySailor Posted June 26, 2014 #131 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Don't get me started on perfume allergy! Sometimes the pungent smell of Chanel, just makes my throat feel like it has a fur ball in it. Yep. Over powering perfume should be banned on the port side of ship, so we are still able to smell the smoke properly:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Lionesss Posted June 26, 2014 #132 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Enjoyed reading about this topic----------again. Has not been this good in a couple weeks. Oh Post # 76, the BEST:D!!!!!! (Thanks). Sea Ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted June 26, 2014 #133 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I apologize...I just looked at my most recent Compasses and I was mistaken. RCI doesn't have that restriction -- it must have been on Holland America. No worries. I had never seen that stated before and was wondering if it was a change in the guest conduct policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetWet! Posted June 26, 2014 #134 Share Posted June 26, 2014 From the WHOListed as a Carcinogenic.. This is from the WORLD governing body, not just the USA. Radiation from cell phones can possibly cause cancer, according to the World Health Organization. The agency now lists mobile phone use in the same "carcinogenic hazard" category as lead, engine exhaust and chloroform. Before its announcement Tuesday, WHO had assured consumers that no adverse health effects had been established. A team of 31 scientists from 14 countries, including the United States, made the decision after reviewing peer-reviewed studies on cell phone safety. The team found enough evidence to categorize personal exposure as "possibly carcinogenic to humans." What that means is they found some evidence of increase in glioma and acoustic neuroma brain cancer for mobile phone users, but have not been able to draw conclusions for other types of cancers "The biggest problem we have is that we know most environmental factors take several decades of exposure before we really see the consequences," said Dr. Keith Black, chairman of neurology at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. Is your cell phone safe? Dr. Gupta explores cell phone safety How to use your cell phone safely Can ce Sure would be nice if you would list a source. What I can find on the WHO official website does not quite agree with what you've posted. For instance, "Based on mixed epidemiological evidence on humans regarding an association between exposure to RF radiation from wireless phones and head cancers (glioma and acoustic neuroma), RF fields have been classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer as possibly carcinogenic to humans." That doesn't match what you said that WHO themselves have "listed as a carginogenic" cell phone radiation. That word "possibly" is a LARGE qualifier. Then, it WHO's conclusion (emphasis mine): "While an increased risk of brain tumours from the use of mobile phones is not established, the increasing use of mobile phones and the lack of data for mobile phone use over time periods longer than 15 years warrant further research of mobile phone use and brain cancer risk." So the most alarming statement that any authoritative agency seems to make is "there is no causal relationship established but further research may be warranted." WHO - What are the health risks associated with mobile phones and their base stations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeySailor Posted June 26, 2014 #135 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Sure would be nice if you would list a source. What I can find on the WHO official website does not quite agree with what you've posted. For instance, "Based on mixed epidemiological evidence on humans regarding an association between exposure to RF radiation from wireless phones and head cancers (glioma and acoustic neuroma), RF fields have been classified by the International Agency for Research on Cancer as possibly carcinogenic to humans." That doesn't match what you said that WHO themselves have "listed as a carginogenic" cell phone radiation. That word "possibly" is a LARGE qualifier. Then, it WHO's conclusion (emphasis mine): "While an increased risk of brain tumours from the use of mobile phones is not established, the increasing use of mobile phones and the lack of data for mobile phone use over time periods longer than 15 years warrant further research of mobile phone use and brain cancer risk." So the most alarming statement that any authoritative agency seems to make is "there is no causal relationship established but further research may be warranted." WHO - What are the health risks associated with mobile phones and their base stations? Look harder. I hit it from the WHO website,. Anyways you have your opinion, I have mine.. We could drag this on all day Just FYI I am in my back yard by the pool having a smoke, as I am considerate to my ladies indoors. And do not smoke in my house. A small sacrifice to make, to keep the people important to me in my life happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigque Posted June 26, 2014 #136 Share Posted June 26, 2014 No overdramatic at all. Some people are severely allergic or have health issues where smoke affects breathing, so yes, it can ruin a trip in their eyes. Which leads back to my comment in post #116. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetsGetWet! Posted June 26, 2014 #137 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Look harder. I hit it from the WHO website,. Anyways you have your opinion, I have mine.. Sorry, but that's not the way it works. ;) I've backed up all my information with links to the official websites where its obtained - including the WHO website. I really doubt their website contradicts itself, so I'll just assume that what you posted was your own interpretation, and not what the WHO itself actually said - since you're unable or unwilling to back it up any further. Enjoy that cigar. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comxkid Posted June 26, 2014 #138 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Sorry, but that's not the way it works. ;) I've backed up all my information with links to the official websites where its obtained - including the WHO website. I really doubt their website contradicts itself, so I'll just assume that what you posted was your own interpretation, and not what the WHO itself actually said - since you're unable or unwilling to back it up any further. Enjoy that cigar. :) His information was obtained from a dated press release that WHO released in 2011. As you already know, your WHO link was from 2013. Are we on the same side of this issue? Who'd of thunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsail Posted June 26, 2014 #139 Share Posted June 26, 2014 What do other think? You started a smoking thread before sailing princess several years ago so it must have been important and now you want us to believe you sailed rci for the first time and did nothing to check their smoking policies:rolleyes::rolleyes: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1284408 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeySailor Posted June 26, 2014 #140 Share Posted June 26, 2014 His information was obtained from a dated press release that WHO released in 2011. As you already know, your WHO link was from 2013. Are we on the same side of this issue? Who'd of thunk? http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs193/en/ Fact sheet 193 dated June 2011. There you go.. Now I will go back to the pool:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeySailor Posted June 26, 2014 #141 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Sorry, but that's not the way it works. ;) I've backed up all my information with links to the official websites where its obtained - including the WHO website. I really doubt their website contradicts itself, so I'll just assume that what you posted was your own interpretation, and not what the WHO itself actually said - since you're unable or unwilling to back it up any further. Enjoy that cigar. :) Assumption, the mother of all evil!! Never smoked a cigar in my life:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comxkid Posted June 26, 2014 #142 Share Posted June 26, 2014 http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs193/en/Fact sheet 193 dated June 2011. There you go.. Now I will go back to the pool:) Thanks for verifying that this was the fact sheet that was released to the press in 2011. More current data was posted by LetsGetWet. Enjoy your afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adayatatime Posted June 26, 2014 #143 Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) Thanks for verifying that this was the fact sheet that was released to the press in 2011. More current data was posted by LetsGetWet. Enjoy your afternoon. There's loads of research both ways for 2014 too. It's certainly not researched to death and I personally believe there is a link (although not proven yet). Itmjust seems rational that wjphen my ear burns its not quite right :eek: And staring at a four, for too long definitely affects your eyesight! Going to make a cuppa. Ps - just Re-read and proven my point. My brain is frazzled. Edited June 26, 2014 by Adayatatime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeySailor Posted June 26, 2014 #144 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Thanks for verifying that this was the fact sheet that was released to the press in 2011. More current data was posted by LetsGetWet. Enjoy your afternoon. No problem at all, even WHO can contradict themselves.. Proves another valid point that no one is perfect. Happy Days You too enjoy your afternoon:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comxkid Posted June 26, 2014 #145 Share Posted June 26, 2014 There's loads of research both ways for 2014 too. It's certainly not researched to death and I personally believe there is a link (although not proven yet). Itmjust seems rational that wjphen my ear burns its not quite right :eek: Sounds like a bad battery to me if your ear is getting hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adayatatime Posted June 26, 2014 #146 Share Posted June 26, 2014 No problem at all, even WHO can contradict themselves.. Proves another valid point that no one is perfect.Happy Days You too enjoy your afternoon:) Good point. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeySailor Posted June 26, 2014 #147 Share Posted June 26, 2014 There's loads of research both ways for 2014 too. It's certainly not researched to death and I personally believe there is a link (although not proven yet). Itmjust seems rational that wjphen my ear burns its not quite right :eek: And staring at a four, for too long definitely affects your eyesight! Going to make a cuppa. Ps - just Re-read and proven my point. My brain is frazzled. My ears are burning too:), I best go watch the Japan v Belgium game. But first another smoke in the back yard by the pool. Lovely day today in the 90's. And my chair is still there and also the ashtray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adayatatime Posted June 26, 2014 #148 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Sounds like a bad battery to me if your ear is getting hot. I'm not serious, although this used to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeySailor Posted June 26, 2014 #149 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I'm not serious, although this used to happen. Can you prove it with Data sheets and fact sheets please, also please provide me with links and back them up. Make sure that you are also using the most up to date research as if batteries over heating are causing issues. I want to make sure I am on the write page.:) LOL How is Oxford these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitzmark Posted June 26, 2014 #150 Share Posted June 26, 2014 No problem at all, even WHO can contradict themselves.. Proves another valid point that no one is perfect.Happy Days You too enjoy your afternoon:) Still irrelevant to the issue of smoking privileges. Unless it's your contention that All potentially harmful issues must be addressed simultaneously which seems a little silly. If you believe that these other things are harmful, by all means pursue it and try to get them banned. To suggest that because they are permitted that smoking is not harmful or should be permitted as well is not a logical statement. Even if everyone agreed with your notion that they are harmful, you are then attempting to make an argument that two wrongs somehow make a right. This really does remind me of the childhood behavior of being told something is bad, but then trying to rationalize the bad behavior by pointing out someone else behaving badly, as though that makes it ok. It's like Bob Ford excusing his Crack smoking by blaming his binge drinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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