Had To Change Cabins

[cuthbert732]

I had to change cabins hubby is a smoker so no need for balcony.Smoking on balcony is his only perk we was on the lideo on the Conquest.New cabin interior on the lideo on a few steps and he is closer to smoking area.We respect others that don't smoke and we will not jump cruise lines because of new policy like some of our cruise partner's .I hope they see this and Ncl change there policy (I will get new cruise buddies:p)

[RuthlessBoss]

I had to change cabins hubby is a smoker so no need for balcony.Smoking on balcony is his only perk we was on the lideo on the Conquest.New cabin interior on the lideo on a few steps and he is closer to smoking area.We respect others that don't smoke and we will not jump cruise lines because of new policy like some of our cruise partner's .I hope they see this and Ncl change there policy (I will get new cruise buddies:p)

 

It will be interesting to see if Lido interior prices will go up or remain high now that they are coveted locations:)

[springs741]

Did you check out the smoking locations carefully?

I am not sure but I think the smoking area is on deck 10 (panorama) starboard side. We were on the Conquest last year in November. She has the 2.0 up grade and since Guys burgers are located on the Lido they moved smoking up one deck.

[bigdog1958]

I dont blame you for saving money. It brings me to question the wisdom of this move. The old policy had some affect on people who were non-smokers that had balcony cabins. Now the new policy will affect eveyone booked on the cruise. What I mean is that based on Carnival's stats, they have approx 10% smokers on their ships. So, that means that there will be anywhere from 200 to 300 additional people smoking in the casino and lido deck areas as they can no longer smoke on their balcony. I know non-smokers asked for this, but it could back fire and have more smokers in public areas now.

[drumbeatfive]

I dont blame you for saving money. It brings me to question the wisdom of this move. The old policy had some affect on people who were non-smokers that had balcony cabins. Now the new policy will affect eveyone booked on the cruise. What I mean is that based on Carnival's stats, they have approx 10% smokers on their ships. So, that means that there will be anywhere from 200 to 300 additional people smoking in the casino and lido deck areas as they can no longer smoke on their balcony. I know non-smokers asked for this, but it could back fire and have more smokers in public areas now.

 

I keep seeing this stat. Where does it come from? I've cruised with Carnival 4 times now and don't ever remembering being asked if we were smokers or not. Did I miss the survey??

[cherbear4000]

According to the CDC, 18.1% of adults smoke cigarettes in the US. I would assume the percentage of cruise passengers that smoke would be similar.

[HawksFan74]

What I mean is that based on Carnival's stats, they have approx 10% smokers on their ships. So, that means that there will be anywhere from 200 to 300 additional people smoking in the casino and lido deck areas as they can no longer smoke on their balcony.

You are assuming that everyone who smokes would book a balcony cabin and spend the majority of their time there (on the balcony). I doubt that's the case. I'm sure there are plenty of smokers who won't (or can't) pay extra for a balcony, and the ones who do get balconies are still venturing out of their cabins during the day.

[NavarreCruiser]

According to the CDC, 18.1% of adults smoke cigarettes in the US. I would assume the percentage of cruise passengers that smoke would be similar.

 

I think it might even be higher. I am sure that many of you know people, as we do, that tend to only have a cigarette when having an adult beverage or chilling out on vacation. I know that on our many cruises we have seen public smoking area much more crowded than similar non smoking locations.

[fridaythe13th]

We love a balcony and we don't smoke. We've never been bothered by smokers as I have read a lot on all different cruiseline threads. Is the change for safety or too many non-smoker complaints?

[aaron3219]

I dont blame you for saving money. It brings me to question the wisdom of this move. The old policy had some affect on people who were non-smokers that had balcony cabins. Now the new policy will affect eveyone booked on the cruise. What I mean is that based on Carnival's stats, they have approx 10% smokers on their ships. So, that means that there will be anywhere from 200 to 300 additional people smoking in the casino and lido deck areas as they can no longer smoke on their balcony. I know non-smokers asked for this, but it could back fire and have more smokers in public areas now.

 

I agree with this completely. Its going to have a back lash effect that I doubt they foreseen.

 

Honestly, I rarely saw people smoking on deck. Maybe 3 or 4 at a time. The Casino usually had 30-40 people in there smoking I'd say. If I wanted to smoke it would not be on the deck. I hated smoking in the wind, make my cigarette taste bad. If I was smoking on the ship, I would do it on my balcony or in the casino.

 

So if you have a rainy day guess how many people are going to be in the casino smoking? A LOT. There will be one heck of a clam bake going on in there!

 

I still really fail to see how people could smell the smoke on their balcony. Just another case of prude sally not wanting other people to enjoy their smokes.

[9876]

I agree with this completely. Its going to have a back lash effect that I doubt they foreseen.

 

Honestly, I rarely saw people smoking on deck. Maybe 3 or 4 at a time. The Casino usually had 30-40 people in there smoking I'd say. If I wanted to smoke it would not be on the deck. I hated smoking in the wind, make my cigarette taste bad. If I was smoking on the ship, I would do it on my balcony or in the casino.

 

So if you have a rainy day guess how many people are going to be in the casino smoking? A LOT. There will be one heck of a clam bake going on in there!

 

I still really fail to see how people could smell the smoke on their balcony. Just another case of prude sally not wanting other people to enjoy their smokes.

 

 

Smoking is most definitely shared with your balcony neighbors. I don't think it will be an onslaught on the decks. Folks are there already smoking and if someone does not want to be exposed they can walk on the other side of the deck. I have personally done that and do not find it a problem. I do agree though, the casino could get to be a problem and as such would be another place to try to avoid. To do so though I can see the need to switch decks as it is usually the primary or only thoroughfare on a deck.

[Andoria]

I agree with this completely. Its going to have a back lash effect that I doubt they foreseen.

 

Honestly, I rarely saw people smoking on deck. Maybe 3 or 4 at a time. The Casino usually had 30-40 people in there smoking I'd say. If I wanted to smoke it would not be on the deck. I hated smoking in the wind, make my cigarette taste bad. If I was smoking on the ship, I would do it on my balcony or in the casino.

 

So if you have a rainy day guess how many people are going to be in the casino smoking? A LOT. There will be one heck of a clam bake going on in there!

 

I still really fail to see how people could smell the smoke on their balcony. Just another case of prude sally not wanting other people to enjoy their smokes.

 

 

I'm an ex smoker and I still occasionally smoke one if I've been drinking more than usual. On my last cruise I had smokers all around me and I smelled smoke every time I was out on my balcony. On other cruises, I'd catch a whiff here and there but this last time it was bad.

[tigereye]

I don't feel that people crowding into the casino to smoke will be a problem. I have been in our local casino a couple times for business reasons and it is always full of smoke. If you are a person who patronizes casinos I'm sure that the smoke will not bother you. Glad that I will not have to smell smoke on my balcony.

[cruisinqt]

It's so sad that people don't understand the gravity of the situation and choose to take offense and say things like "it's another case of prude Sally not wanting other people to enjoy their smokes." :( Is it "prude" when my child goes onto our balcony to enjoy the fresh air and has an asthma attack due to the smoke from the balcony next door? If we didn't have her inhaler handy and if I weren't nearby to help I cringe at what might have happened. Whether people want to admit it or not, their second hand smoke can be deadly to asthmatics and very unhealthy for pregnant women. And it can be smelled from a next door balcony very strongly, I mean think about it, you're just feet from one another, how could you not smell it or inhale it? Perhaps incidents like this are what precipitated the change in the smoking policy. Carnival may lose a few irate smokers but if it saves them lots of money on lawsuits from sickened asthmatics or others who pay lots of extra money for a balcony that becomes useless to them, then maybe it's worth it in their eyes. I feel bad for the smokers not being able to smoke on their balcony, I can understand their disappointment. But I also see the other side of the coin, I've been there and it's not pretty. I hope that I have helped others to see it too. :)

[cruzn buckeye]

I dont blame you for saving money. It brings me to question the wisdom of this move. The old policy had some affect on people who were non-smokers that had balcony cabins. Now the new policy will affect eveyone booked on the cruise. What I mean is that based on Carnival's stats, they have approx 10% smokers on their ships. So, that means that there will be anywhere from 200 to 300 additional people smoking in the casino and lido deck areas as they can no longer smoke on their balcony. I know non-smokers asked for this, but it could back fire and have more smokers in public areas now.

they need to make smoking in the casino for players only

[mosiegirl]

they need to make smoking in the casino for players only

 

agreed...lol.. but good luck with that one.. lol.. how would they manage that? They don't have the crew to police such a thing.. Nice idea though. Just wait till they decide to ban smoking in the casinos ! gasp ! lol.. :eek::rolleyes::D:eek:

[TxChick]

It's so sad that people don't understand the gravity of the situation and choose to take offense and say things like "it's another case of prude Sally not wanting other people to enjoy their smokes." :( Is it "prude" when my child goes onto our balcony to enjoy the fresh air and has an asthma attack due to the smoke from the balcony next door? If we didn't have her inhaler handy and if I weren't nearby to help I cringe at what might have happened. Whether people want to admit it or not, their second hand smoke can be deadly to asthmatics and very unhealthy for pregnant women. And it can be smelled from a next door balcony very strongly, I mean think about it, you're just feet from one another, how could you not smell it or inhale it? Perhaps incidents like this are what precipitated the change in the smoking policy. Carnival may lose a few irate smokers but if it saves them lots of money on lawsuits from sickened asthmatics or others who pay lots of extra money for a balcony that becomes useless to them, then maybe it's worth it in their eyes. I feel bad for the smokers not being able to smoke on their balcony, I can understand their disappointment. But I also see the other side of the coin, I've been there and it's not pretty. I hope that I have helped others to see it too. :)

 

 

Agreed - on the smaller ships I can't cross through the casino without holding my breath or having a coughing fit. Even the smoke in the theatre can set my asthma off. I just fear more people smoking in the casinos or outside to where it's unbearable to be in those areas. Obviously, smokers need a place, it's not all about me, but I don't want crowds of people in the casino either when listening to singers or playing slots

[Boof80]

You are assuming that everyone who smokes would book a balcony cabin and spend the majority of their time there (on the balcony). I doubt that's the case. I'm sure there are plenty of smokers who won't (or can't) pay extra for a balcony, and the ones who do get balconies are still venturing out of their cabins during the day.

 

And it is totally discounting all the non-smokers who used to avoid paying extra for a balcony in case they were smoked off it. I doubt the smoking on balconies ban will affect carnivals bottom line at all.

[adaptabl]

I dont blame you for saving money. It brings me to question the wisdom of this move. The old policy had some affect on people who were non-smokers that had balcony cabins. Now the new policy will affect eveyone booked on the cruise. What I mean is that based on Carnival's stats, they have approx 10% smokers on their ships. So, that means that there will be anywhere from 200 to 300 additional people smoking in the casino and lido deck areas as they can no longer smoke on their balcony. I know non-smokers asked for this, but it could back fire and have more smokers in public areas now.

 

If this happens the next step is to ban smoking it those areas also.

[RWolver672]

they need to make smoking in the casino for players only

 

Can't answer for all of their ships but on our last two cruises on the Dream and Freedom, you had to be playing the slots or at a table to be in the smoking section of the casino already. If you were just standing there having a cigarette, they ask you to leave or start playing.

[RuthlessBoss]

Can't answer for all of their ships but on our last two cruises on the Dream and Freedom, you had to be playing the slots or at a table to be in the smoking section of the casino already. If you were just standing there having a cigarette, they ask you to leave or start playing.

 

It will be interesting to see this. There may be more smokers than slots:eek: I've seen many non smokers in the smoking section, so in a way, they are using OUR space.

[irishnyc]

It's so sad that people don't understand the gravity of the situation and choose to take offense and say things like "it's another case of prude Sally not wanting other people to enjoy their smokes." :( Is it "prude" when my child goes onto our balcony to enjoy the fresh air and has an asthma attack due to the smoke from the balcony next door? If we didn't have her inhaler handy and if I weren't nearby to help I cringe at what might have happened. Whether people want to admit it or not, their second hand smoke can be deadly to asthmatics and very unhealthy for pregnant women. And it can be smelled from a next door balcony very strongly, I mean think about it, you're just feet from one another, how could you not smell it or inhale it? Perhaps incidents like this are what precipitated the change in the smoking policy. Carnival may lose a few irate smokers but if it saves them lots of money on lawsuits from sickened asthmatics or others who pay lots of extra money for a balcony that becomes useless to them, then maybe it's worth it in their eyes. I feel bad for the smokers not being able to smoke on their balcony, I can understand their disappointment. But I also see the other side of the coin, I've been there and it's not pretty. I hope that I have helped others to see it too. :)

 

Under the rules where people were allowed to smoke on their balconies, you booked a balcony cabin knowing full well your neighbor could be a smoker. If the situation is "so grave" you shouldn't have ever booked a balcony. Don't blame people doing what is allowed on your child having an asthma attack. Shame on you for putting your child in "grave danger."

 

I'm not a smoker, and DH no longer is. We have never smelled smoke on a balcony, but if we had we wouldn't have complained about is because it was allowed. We knew it was a consequence of booking a balcony.

 

I'm so tired of the non-smoker bellyaching that goes on about smoke on balconies - smoke that was ALLOWED. Whining like that makes me want to light up and blow smoke right in their faces.

Edited July 17, 2014 by irishnyc

[cruisinqt]

Wow! Must have touched a nerve or something. :rolleyes:

As I mentioned earlier, my intent was not to vilify smokers but to help people to see the other side of the coin, that's all. I have several good friends that I hang out with from work that smoke and have no ill feeling towards smokers. I was merely warning parents of the unforeseen dangers to their children. Therefore, your accusation of "whining" and "bellyaching" have no merit. It was clearly NOT my intent and there was clearly NO whining or bellyaching. . Having been on numerous cruises with balconies it was our first encounter with smoke. I wasn't aware of how dangerous it could be. And SHAME ON YOU for picking on me and trying to make me out to be a bad parent! You don't even know me or the whole story of what happened. I'm just trying to help people see the other side of the situation. "Light up and blow smoke right in their faces" huh? Yeah a real class act there. :rolleyes: I will no longer acknowledge any of your comments in regards to this topic. I prefer to rise above the occasion and ignore those who rashly judge others without all of the facts and take petty shots at someone for no reason. :cool:

[ItsAllAboutTheSass]

I'm an ex smoker and I still occasionally smoke one if I've been drinking more than usual. On my last cruise I had smokers all around me and I smelled smoke every time I was out on my balcony. On other cruises, I'd catch a whiff here and there but this last time it was bad.

 

Then you are not an ex-smoker.

[fishtaco]

they need to make smoking in the casino for players only

 

 

This was Carnival Splendors policy when I cruised her 2 years ago, every time I smoked without gambling I was asked to put it out even when i purchased a drink in the casino:confused:

 

Anyway why should you be allowed to smoke only if you are spending money on gambling? Same thing as telling people to leave the casino if they are not spending money on gambling because a smoking area is a smoking area and a casino is for gambling.

Edited July 19, 2014 by fishtaco