Norwegian Cruise Line Bans Smoking on Balconies

[LMaxwell]

Since you have the crystal ball and must walk on water if you can tell the future. WOW what a gift. Are you one of those who now that you got your way on NCL you will be a squeeky wheel on HAL even though you never cruosed with them and never will?

 

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A very close personal long time friend from college works within HAL corporate. That is the source of my information. No need to kill the messenger. Relax

[Warm Breezes]

You can choose your cruise line, which cabin, where to eat, what to see or do just like I can. You chose to smoke while I chose not to smoke. Sounds like we all have choices.:D

 

NCL is not saying smokefree in all areas. There will be a new restriction in place but not a total ban.

 

Just like activities with weight restrictions ( yes I am a larger person).If I chose to lose a few pounds then there would be no restriction. I can't just go to a designated area and still participate. We all have choices!!:)

 

Like....you posted what I was thinking. We all have choices. None of us are limited by where we go on a ship (except for certain age restrictions which hold true for everyone). We all are limited by what we can do on the ship and where. We all have the choice to smoke or not. If you choose to smoke then there are limits on where it can be done. We all have the choice to play basketball or not....but we can't play a game of basketball around the lido pool with a real basketball. There is a place for smoking and there is a place for playing basketball....we all have the choice to do either. We all are limited on where we can do it, if and when we choose to do it. Those limits, in both instances, are there for the health and safety of all passengers. No rights are taken away in either case.

Edited August 8, 2014 by Warm Breezes

[JulieAF]

Like....you posted what I was thinking. We all have choices. None of us are limited by where we go on a ship (except for certain age restrictions which hold true for everyone). We all are limited by what we can do on the ship and where. We all have the choice to smoke or not. If you choose to smoke then there are limits on where it can be done. We all have the choice to play basketball or not....but we can't play a game of basketball around the lido pool with a real basketball. There is a place for smoking and there is a place for playing basketball....we all have the choice to do either. We all are limited on where we can do it, if and when we choose to do it. Those limits, in both instances, are there for the health and safety of all passengers. No rights are taken away in either case.

 

You explained it clearly & simply. Definitely logically.

 

Thank you.

[JuneauWhatIMean]

I think we all need to acknowledge and/or remember just how ANGRY and IRRITABLE smokers can be, (understandably), when either denied access to their habit or confronted with the reality of just how horibbly devastating smoking can be. Been there, done that. And I have lost four close family members, cradled in my arms, to lung cancer.

 

I hope I quit in time- 1994 after 20+ years. Thank god I promised my dad I would quit on his deathbed. It still took me exactly one year. I hope all you smokers can find a way to quit. Personally, I don't think e-cigs are the answer unless you use them for a very limited and predetermined time.

 

And please stop telling everyone, basically, "I know I shouldn't but it's my life and what I choose to do." Trust me, a lot more people than you are affected.

[jolgro]

Why does country,s , and company,s etc. are always making rules about (not) smoking and not worrie more about obesitas ?

 

" Can I order more than one dessert/entree" are so normal here. But at the end it can be just as bad for you than smoking......

 

 

 

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[JulieAF]

Why does country,s , and company,s etc. are always making rules about (not) smoking and not worrie more about obesitas ?

 

" Can I order more than one dessert/entree" are so normal here. But at the end it can be just as bad for you than smoking......

 

Totally different scenario.... sure, it's bad for the person eating the extra dessert/entree, but that has ZERO effect on someone standing/sitting close-by.

[JulieAF]

I think we all need to acknowledge and/or remember just how ANGRY and IRRITABLE smokers can be, (understandably), when either denied access to their habit or confronted with the reality of just how horibbly devastating smoking can be. Been there, done that. And I have lost four close family members, cradled in my arms, to lung cancer.

 

I hope I quit in time- 1994 after 20+ years. Thank god I promised my dad I would quit on his deathbed. It still took me exactly one year. I hope all you smokers can find a way to quit. Personally, I don't think e-cigs are the answer unless you use them for a very limited and predetermined time.

 

And please stop telling everyone, basically, "I know I shouldn't but it's my life and what I choose to do." Trust me, a lot more people than you are affected.

 

I am so glad you have kept your promise to your dad! Happy 20th anniversary! Btw....You're one of my favorite posters/cruisers! :)

 

I am so grateful I quit in 1991, after smoking for 19 years. I also hope I quit in time. I hope many more make the choice to stop so their loved ones don't have to see the results as you & I have.

[DMH15]

Why does country,s , and company,s etc. are always making rules about (not) smoking and not worrie more about obesitas ?

 

" Can I order more than one dessert/entree" are so normal here. But at the end it can be just as bad for you than smoking......

 

 

 

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Ya know, my size 2 SIL smokes, eats McDonalds and pizza. I am a size 16, never smoked, am a chef and cook fresh ingredients with almost no fast food. I finished in top ten percent of my age in my last 5k. SIL does not work out.

 

If you met us both what conclusions would you jump to?

 

Maybe I am sensitive to smoker's struggles as I struggle with my weight daily.

 

It is easy to generalize. But, like smokers, those of us with weight struggles are not cookie cutter. Not saying you claimed that. Just giving my perspective.

[cougaraz]

Why does country,s , and company,s etc. are always making rules about (not) smoking and not worrie more about obesitas ?

 

" Can I order more than one dessert/entree" are so normal here. But at the end it can be just as bad for you than smoking......

 

 

 

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Because I never took my dessert and shoved it in the face of the people on the balcony next to me. Nor have I ever taken my dessert and smeared it all over the clothing of the person on the next balcony requiring them to launder it. So far as I know, my dessert eating has never caused the hair of the person on the next balcony to gain an unpleasant order or induce them to cough or sneeze. Further, despite my very best efforts none of the food I have ever eaten has remained in the carpeting, furniture, walls and linens after my departure.

 

It is possible for me to go nuts at dinner, two appetizers, soup, salad, pasta, four entrees and every dessert on the list without negatively impacting anyone else around me (Except for perhaps inducing insane jealousy). However, it is not possible to smoke on a balcony without impacting the people on the surrounding balconies.

Edited August 8, 2014 by cougaraz

[mpk218]

I was told the same thing

 

I too .. And Now I am pleased with the "current" suggestions for my furture cruise . ;)

 

 

New Rules not quite as radical as some would have you believe ..

 

Good luck to all ..

 

Peace

[CasinoCruzGirl]

I too .. And Now I am pleased with the "current" suggestions for my furture cruise . ;)

 

 

New Rules not quite as radical as some would have you believe ..

 

Good luck to all ..

 

Peace

 

 

Exactly. Let the air out of some of their balloons lol

[gemsm]

Of course no one is perfect and of course we all affect one another. But no, I don't think there is any sane reason to support smoking or suggest that smokers have "the right" to smoke, especially around others. It's an addiction like heroine is an addiction. Doesn't make it okay. We cannot support or defend truly bad things just because some like it or say they like it because of their addiction.

 

There is one problem with your train of thought. Tobacco is a legal product for purchase and use in the entire world. Heroin -- Not so much. Everyone has the right to use any legal product.

[gemsm]

Actually what is rather funny is for all its claims, it still does show an increased trend towards increased lung cancer. The problem is that the study is not sized to actually show statistical significance. That is considerably different then saying that shs does not result in increased lung cancer.

 

How many studies would you like to see that have shown other results?

 

I rest my case :)

[Tutankhamen]

Because I never took my dessert and shoved it in the face of the people on the balcony next to me. Nor have I ever taken my dessert and smeared it all over the clothing of the person on the next balcony requiring them to launder it. So far as I know, my dessert eating has never caused the hair of the person on the next balcony to gain an unpleasant order or induce them to cough or sneeze. Further, despite my very best efforts none of the food I have ever eaten has remained in the carpeting, furniture, walls and linens after my departure.

 

It is possible for me to go nuts at dinner, two appetizers, soup, salad, pasta, four entrees and every dessert on the list without negatively impacting anyone else around me (Except for perhaps inducing insane jealousy). However, it is not possible to smoke on a balcony without impacting the people on the surrounding balconies.

 

Great post. However. I am not about to applaud NCL for changing rules as it is only about what they think is the best for their bottom line. Nothing else.

 

I smoked. I really don't get my panties in a bunch over the smell of smoke. But, I think it is in the best interest of the business to ban smoking on the balcony, and obviously in the best interest of those who are truly bothered by smoke.

 

E-cigs should be allowed in the cabin. The balcony, I think it should be allowed if people weren't such busy bodies. But being that people would rather spend time trying to figure out if the vapor they may see could be smoke, it is once again in the best interest of the business to not allow e-cigs on the balcony. No reason to have security/crew running around trying to figure out if someone is smoking or vaping people cause people report a SMOKER on their balcony. Easier to just ban the e-digs from balcony.

 

Banning e-digs from the cabin is absurd at best.

Edited August 8, 2014 by Tutankhamen

[Tutankhamen]

About using the e-cig in the cabin. People are worried about residue left over from vaping. The fact is the residue left behind after vaping is not a big issue when you compare that to the following issues of storing e-cigs in the cabin.

 

1) Some people who vape, build their own heating coils. They also use unregulated power devices. If the person who is building the coil doesn't have a clear understanding of watts, ohms, volts and batteries they could build something that could have a catastrophic thermal runaway......FIRE. Look it up on youtube.

 

2) Most people that vape use refillable devices. They have to fill their tanks/carts/attomizers/drippers with their juice of choice. Most use nicotine. This is where you will have spillage and a high probability of leaving a high concentration of nicotine on the carpet, bedspread or wherever.

 

3) Most of the devices (mods) used today have leaks from time to time. If they aren't stored correctly you run the risk of them leaking.

 

Banning the use of the device in the cabin does little to lower the dangers of having the devices in the cabin in the first place.

Edited August 8, 2014 by Tutankhamen

[tel2]

All your wrote is very true. Like you I hope one day soon I can call myself an ex-smoker. Just bought myself a ecig yesterday Seems to be working and have cut down a bunch today. We shall see how it goes. Wish me luck.

 

Good luck! I stopped smoking on October 1 of last year, the same day I had [unrelated but successful] cancer surgery. I figured I ought not to keep tempting fate. I have been smoking an e-cig since then. I tried a couple of brands before I found one that actually mimicked the "feel" of smoking enough that I wasnt craving a cigarette. Started with e-cigs with nicotine, and now 0 nicotine. I must admit I feel better ....

Terry

[mein18]

Good luck! I stopped smoking on October 1 of last year, the same day I had [unrelated but successful] cancer surgery. I figured I ought not to keep tempting fate. I have been smoking an e-cig since then. I tried a couple of brands before I found one that actually mimicked the "feel" of smoking enough that I wasnt craving a cigarette. Started with e-cigs with nicotine, and now 0 nicotine. I must admit I feel better ....

Terry

 

May I ask which brand you are using?

 

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[tel2]

Yes, after trying about 4 different kinds and spending a fortune, I settled on GreenSmoke, which i really like. I smoked menthol, and it was really hard to find an e-cig that had the real menthol flavor and throat "hit" These are great for me.

 

Terry

[mein18]

Yes, after trying about 4 different kinds and spending a fortune, I settled on GreenSmoke, which i really like. I smoked menthol, and it was really hard to find an e-cig that had the real menthol flavor and throat "hit" These are great for me.

 

Terry

 

Thanks. I have been using V2 also menthol. Their regular menthol is not realistic but their green tea menthol is pretty good. Is yours Greensmokes plain menthol?

 

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[CasinoCruzGirl]

Good luck! I stopped smoking on October 1 of last year, the same day I had [unrelated but successful] cancer surgery. I figured I ought not to keep tempting fate. I have been smoking an e-cig since then. I tried a couple of brands before I found one that actually mimicked the "feel" of smoking enough that I wasnt craving a cigarette. Started with e-cigs with nicotine, and now 0 nicotine. I must admit I feel better ....

Terry

 

Terry good job. Can I ask what kind of ecig. I bough one but it's to strong. Oops just saw you said green smoke. I have VUSE but find it stronger than my real cigs.

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[sjbdtz]

I'm wondering if all the people who say they hate the casino smoke so much and some of the outside designated areas switch to a cruise line that has non smoking casinos and limited outside smoking? You are suggesting we smokers switch to HAL if we don't like the rules how about you guys who are still complaining switch if u don't like the rules? And if any of you haven't noticed I am NOT complaining have NOT been complaining about the balcony smoking. For me it's not that big of a deal.

 

 

 

Why don't we switch? Because:

 

a) we like the casualness of NCL

b) we've been loyal NCL cruisers for 20 years

c) NCL's CAS program takes good care of us.

 

 

I haven't been complaining. I'm fine with the rules as set. But I will be persisting to ensure they enforce the rules (around me) next time I sail. If I'm at the casino, and you're standing around smoking but not playing, I will most definately call somebody over.

 

It's not personal, but I lost my last 2 weeks of vacation to a severe smoking-induced bronchitis....and I won't have it, again.

 

 

 

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[nickgraz95]

Why don't we switch? Because:

 

a) we like the casualness of NCL

b) we've been loyal NCL cruisers for 20 years

c) NCL's CAS program takes good care of us.

 

 

I haven't been complaining. I'm fine with the rules as set. But I will be persisting to ensure they enforce the rules (around me) next time I sail. If I'm at the casino, and you're standing around smoking but not playing, I will most definately call somebody over.

 

It's not personal, but I lost my last 2 weeks of vacation to a severe smoking-induced bronchitis....and I won't have it, again.

 

 

 

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Seriously? I can appreciate you not wanting to be around smoke but come on. Do you check to make sure every single smoker in the casino is playing. I don't really understand this either because whether they are playing or not, smoke is smoke.

[luvtheships]

Seriously? I can appreciate you not wanting to be around smoke but come on. Do you check to make sure every single smoker in the casino is playing. I don't really understand this either because whether they are playing or not, smoke is smoke.

 

Why are you even suggesting that another pax should not insist that rules are followed?

 

This is the crux of the problem. The mere fact that you think the rules should not be actively enforced

 

They should be and I too will be sure they are in my area as well

 

And all that says about me is that I respect rules

 

 

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[nickgraz95]

Why are you even suggesting that another pax should not insist that rules are followed?

 

This is the crux of the problem. The mere fact that you think the rules should not be actively enforced

 

They should be and I too will be sure they are in my area as well

 

And all that says about me is that I respect rules

 

 

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I'm not saying the rules shouldn't be actively enforced. I'm just saying there are better ways to spend vacation time then busting people's chops.

[EyeSeaEwe]

I'm not saying the rules shouldn't be actively enforced. I'm just saying there are better ways to spend vacation time then busting people's chops.

 

So if you break the rules and someone calls you on it that falls under the category of busting chops? Perhaps there are better ways to spend a vacation THAN to think the rules do not apply to you and forcing those who abide by the rules to have to deal with it however they see fit.