EdmundXXIII Posted June 29, 2015 #1 Share Posted June 29, 2015 In MANY threads, I've seen comments from people who seem to think surveillance cameras can see everything that happens on the balcony. Granted, this usually comes up when someone asks if they can enjoy some - as John Heald would put it - rumpy pumpy on their private balcony. Inevitably, someone will say that the cameras can see you. But privacy concerns are also valid for those of us who would like to know we can lounge or read a book on out "private" balcony. So, applying common sense to the situation, here's how it works: If you can see a camera, it can see you. Most Carnival ships do have cameras mounted on long polls that stick out near the front of the ships. From what I understand, this is so they can see along the sides and rear, in case someone goes overboard or a fire starts etc. And yes, depending on your location, those cameras may be able to see all or just part of your balcony. But for most cabins, to see those cameras you have to lean out past the divider. Which means they can't see your balcony. I just had to say it, because it's a pet peeve of mine when I see a comment where people are assuming that the cameras have some magical ability to see around corners. It just doesn't work that way! So enjoy your balcony in peace, unless you can actually see a camera from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted June 29, 2015 #2 Share Posted June 29, 2015 In MANY threads, I've seen comments from people who seem to think surveillance cameras can see everything that happens on the balcony. Granted, this usually comes up when someone asks if they can enjoy some - as John Heald would put it - rumpy pumpy on their private balcony. Inevitably, someone will say that the cameras can see you. But privacy concerns are also valid for those of us who would like to know we can lounge or read a book on out "private" balcony. So, applying common sense to the situation, here's how it works: If you can see a camera, it can see you. Most Carnival ships do have cameras mounted on long polls that stick out near the front of the ships. From what I understand, this is so they can see along the sides and rear, in case someone goes overboard or a fire starts etc. And yes, depending on your location, those cameras may be able to see all or just part of your balcony. But for most cabins, to see those cameras you have to lean out past the divider. Which means they can't see your balcony. I just had to say it, because it's a pet peeve of mine when I see a comment where people are assuming that the cameras have some magical ability to see around corners. It just doesn't work that way! So enjoy your balcony in peace, unless you can actually see a camera from it. But remember that the Navy has powerful binoculars. And night vision.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsfamily Posted June 29, 2015 #3 Share Posted June 29, 2015 AND you think those cameras on the polls are the only cameras on the side of the ship? You think all the things sticking down from various places on the ship could be cameras? Have you looked online at what surveillance cameras can look like nowadays? You might want to look in the hallway at a hotel the next time you are staying in one and wonder why they have so many "things" to spray water in case of a fire.... at least one (most likely several) are cameras watching your re-arrange those underwear wedges or digging deep in that nose! I'm not saying they are but don't think the camera on the "stick" is the only one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snc_cam Posted June 29, 2015 #4 Share Posted June 29, 2015 just don't worry about the cameras and enjoy the motion on the ocean :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love my grandkids Posted June 29, 2015 #5 Share Posted June 29, 2015 AND you think those cameras on the polls are the only cameras on the side of the ship? You think all the things sticking down from various places on the ship could be cameras? Have you looked online at what surveillance cameras can look like nowadays? You might want to look in the hallway at a hotel the next time you are staying in one and wonder why they have so many "things" to spray water in case of a fire.... at least one (most likely several) are cameras watching your re-arrange those underwear wedges or digging deep in that nose! I'm not saying they are but don't think the camera on the "stick" is the only one.. So big brother is watching us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachbum53 Posted June 29, 2015 #6 Share Posted June 29, 2015 In MANY threads, I've seen comments from people who seem to think surveillance cameras can see everything that happens on the balcony. Granted, this usually comes up when someone asks if they can enjoy some - as John Heald would put it - rumpy pumpy on their private balcony. Inevitably, someone will say that the cameras can see you. But privacy concerns are also valid for those of us who would like to know we can lounge or read a book on out "private" balcony. So, applying common sense to the situation, here's how it works: If you can see a camera, it can see you. Most Carnival ships do have cameras mounted on long polls that stick out near the front of the ships. From what I understand, this is so they can see along the sides and rear, in case someone goes overboard or a fire starts etc. And yes, depending on your location, those cameras may be able to see all or just part of your balcony. But for most cabins, to see those cameras you have to lean out past the divider. Which means they can't see your balcony. I just had to say it, because it's a pet peeve of mine when I see a comment where people are assuming that the cameras have some magical ability to see around corners. It just doesn't work that way! So enjoy your balcony in peace, unless you can actually see a camera from it. There have been, and will continue to be, a number of threads posted on here from people based primarily on myths, misunderstandings, or outright stupidity. It's useless to let these posts upset you. Try as you might, you cannot educate the world. If you come across a post, whether it's about security cameras or anything else, that you know is wrong, don't let it bother you. If you feel the need, add your own comment and move on. Or, just skip the post entirely and go to something else. There is a comedian, Ron White, that said it best. " You can't fix 'stupid' ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyMaster Posted June 29, 2015 #7 Share Posted June 29, 2015 There is a comedian, Ron White, that said it best. " You can't fix 'stupid' ". Ron is absolutely correct, and I think John Wayne also summed it up when he said "Life is Tough, It's Tougher if you're Stupid!" ;) "SKY" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfb4cruzing Posted June 29, 2015 #8 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I always wanted to perform on the big screen :D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidsgoneletscruise Posted June 29, 2015 #9 Share Posted June 29, 2015 There have been, and will continue to be, a number of threads posted on here from people based primarily on myths, misunderstandings, or outright stupidity. It's useless to let these posts upset you. Try as you might, you cannot educate the world. If you come across a post, whether it's about security cameras or anything else, that you know is wrong, don't let it bother you. If you feel the need, add your own comment and move on. Or, just skip the post entirely and go to something else. There is a comedian, Ron White, that said it best. " You can't fix 'stupid' ". So true! I had one woman tell me that if I hung up christmas lights INSIDE my cabin.....get ready for it..... "the bow of another ship will crash right into your cabin". :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeBurd Posted June 29, 2015 #10 Share Posted June 29, 2015 In MANY threads, I've seen comments from people who seem to think surveillance cameras can see everything that happens on the balcony. Granted, this usually comes up when someone asks if they can enjoy some - as John Heald would put it - rumpy pumpy on their private balcony. Inevitably, someone will say that the cameras can see you. But privacy concerns are also valid for those of us who would like to know we can lounge or read a book on out "private" balcony. So, applying common sense to the situation, here's how it works: If you can see a camera, it can see you. Most Carnival ships do have cameras mounted on long polls that stick out near the front of the ships. From what I understand, this is so they can see along the sides and rear, in case someone goes overboard or a fire starts etc. And yes, depending on your location, those cameras may be able to see all or just part of your balcony. But for most cabins, to see those cameras you have to lean out past the divider. Which means they can't see your balcony. I just had to say it, because it's a pet peeve of mine when I see a comment where people are assuming that the cameras have some magical ability to see around corners. It just doesn't work that way! So enjoy your balcony in peace, unless you can actually see a camera from it. You'd be surprised at what you can put a camera in these days. Yes, there's the obvious, and if you can see it, it can see you. And then there is the not so obvious. You have no clue when big brother is watching. There are more cameras on board than you think. I hope I've cleared that up for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrier1961 Posted June 29, 2015 #11 Share Posted June 29, 2015 In MANY threads, I've seen comments from people who seem to think surveillance cameras can see everything that happens on the balcony. Granted, this usually comes up when someone asks if they can enjoy some - as John Heald would put it - rumpy pumpy on their private balcony. Inevitably, someone will say that the cameras can see you. But privacy concerns are also valid for those of us who would like to know we can lounge or read a book on out "private" balcony. So, applying common sense to the situation, here's how it works: If you can see a camera, it can see you. Most Carnival ships do have cameras mounted on long polls that stick out near the front of the ships. From what I understand, this is so they can see along the sides and rear, in case someone goes overboard or a fire starts etc. And yes, depending on your location, those cameras may be able to see all or just part of your balcony. But for most cabins, to see those cameras you have to lean out past the divider. Which means they can't see your balcony. I just had to say it, because it's a pet peeve of mine when I see a comment where people are assuming that the cameras have some magical ability to see around corners. It just doesn't work that way! So enjoy your balcony in peace, unless you can actually see a camera from it. Hate to burst your bubble, it's the camera/devices that you cannot see (or recognize as a camera) that you need to worry about. Just saying... Andy :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorim103 Posted June 29, 2015 #12 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I am really glad to hear this :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSH44 Posted June 29, 2015 #13 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Well I hope the Victory crew are ready for a show on August 22nd because damn the cameras my husband and I are giving them a show!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlc108 Posted June 29, 2015 #14 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Besides cameras... Don't forget that guests in cabins on either side can see your reflection in the glass below the railing on some ships. Due to the angle, the reflection they see is different if they are sitting or standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaribbeanLVR Posted June 29, 2015 #15 Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) I can care less if cameras are watching or not! If I have nothing to hide or have done nothing wrong I can give a rats behind! And if I ever decide to do my hanky/panky on the balcony that's the chance I take and those watching may just enjoy it Edited June 29, 2015 by CaribbeanLVR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdmundXXIII Posted June 29, 2015 Author #16 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Hate to burst your bubble, it's the camera/devices that you cannot see (or recognize as a camera) that you need to worry about.Just saying... Andy :eek: I realize sometimes cameras are hidden. But they have to be attached to something. From an average balcony, there just aren't that many things sticking out far enough from the edge of the ship to look inwards at an angle that can see onto the balcony. I'm not paranoid enough to think they're actually putting cameras on our balconies. Why would they? It would be expensive to put hidden cameras there, provides no benefit to the cruise line, and if people found out there would be an uproar. Certainly, some balconies ARE going to be more visible than others from the security cameras, but most aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdmundXXIII Posted June 29, 2015 Author #17 Share Posted June 29, 2015 You'd be surprised at what you can put a camera in these days. Yes, there's the obvious, and if you can see it, it can see you. And then there is the not so obvious. You have no clue when big brother is watching. There are more cameras on board than you think. I hope I've cleared that up for you. I think there's TON of cameras on board. But I don't think that they have invisible flying ones outside everyone's balcony. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeeBurd Posted June 29, 2015 #18 Share Posted June 29, 2015 I think there's TON of cameras on board. But I don't think that they have invisible flying ones outside everyone's balcony. :rolleyes: Ever do a thorough examination of your balcony light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireofficer5 Posted June 29, 2015 #19 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Unless your a pro, (porn star) keep it inside the glass door. There's not enough eye wash, acid or a sharp enough stick handy to repair what I might get a glance of.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted June 29, 2015 #20 Share Posted June 29, 2015 Unless your a pro, (porn star) keep it inside the glass door. There's not enough eye wash, acid or a sharp enough stick handy to repair what I might get a glance of.:D Come on friend, we smiled and waved, the least you could do is wave back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdmundXXIII Posted June 29, 2015 Author #21 Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) Ever do a thorough examination of your balcony light? No. The idea that Carnival is putting hidden cameras on our balconies seems absurd. I realize it would be technically possible, but why bother? Why spend the money on the tech and the people to use it? Do you think Mickey Arison is floating around on his private yacht watching a video feed of me eating breakfast on my balcony? Plus, if they WERE doing this, someone would have found the hidden cameras by now and put it on social media. It would be a huge controversy. Edited June 29, 2015 by EdmundXXIII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrier1961 Posted June 29, 2015 #22 Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) No. The idea that Carnival is putting hidden cameras on our balconies seems absurd. I realize it would be technically possible, but why bother? Why spend the money on the tech and the people to use it? Do you think Mickey Arison is floating around on his private yacht watching a video feed of me eating breakfast on my balcony? Plus, if they WERE doing this, someone would have found the hidden cameras by now and put it on social media. It would be a huge controversy. "Why bother?" The same reason they (whomever) could track you through your cell phone or ATM transactions. Or when you use a GPS device. BECAUSE. THEY. CAN. Just saying. Andy :cool: Edited June 29, 2015 by Harrier1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsfamily Posted June 29, 2015 #23 Share Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) "Why bother?"The same reason they (whomever) could track you through your cell phone or ATM transactions. Or when you use a GPS device. BECAUSE. THEY. CAN. Ah, yes Edited June 29, 2015 by bobsfamily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliair Posted June 29, 2015 #24 Share Posted June 29, 2015 So true! I had one woman tell me that if I hung up christmas lights INSIDE my cabin.....get ready for it..... "the bow of another ship will crash right into your cabin". :cool: LOL! Now that's hilarious! If you're on a Princess ship and you have a cabin on the Caribe deck, you can look over your hand rail and see the balcony below you. I've seen all kinds of things going on down below us. Those above you can also see down on to your balcony. There's very little privacy any where on a ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javafish Posted June 29, 2015 #25 Share Posted June 29, 2015 :confused::):confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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