Longhorn-ED Posted July 26, 2015 #1 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Hello all, We are looking at booking this cruise because of the Jones act. Celebrity will not allow us to do a B2B and we have always wanted to sail on Princess. When I looked up the roll call on this cruise I saw that there is not one listed. I am concerned that this cruise may be a charter or a very large group. Thanks in advance for any help. Regards Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted July 26, 2015 #2 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Hello all, We are looking at booking this cruise because of the Jones act. Celebrity will not allow us to do a B2B and we have always wanted to sail on Princess. When I looked up the roll call on this cruise I saw that there is not one listed. I am concerned that this cruise may be a charter or a very large group. Thanks in advance for any help. Regards Ed I have seen other roll calls started late and it was not a charter or group cruise. Still a long ways out. Why not start a roll call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melody hounddog Posted July 26, 2015 #3 Share Posted July 26, 2015 It's still kind of early for a roll call for some people. Why don't you start one? Did you try a google search to see if you can find out if there is a special charter on those dates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pam in CA Posted July 26, 2015 #4 Share Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) We are looking at booking this cruise because of the Jones act. Celebrity will not allow us to do a B2B and we have always wanted to sail on Princess. When I looked up the roll call on this cruise I saw that there is not one listed.No cruise line will allow you to violate the Passenger Vessel Services Act (not the Jones Act unless you are crew); doesn't matter whether it's Celebrity or Princess. Violating this Act is against the law. If there's no roll call, start one. Easy fix. Sometimes roll calls are active, sometimes they aren't. Edited July 26, 2015 by Pam in CA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peety3 Posted July 27, 2015 #5 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Hello all, We are looking at booking this cruise because of the Jones act. Celebrity will not allow us to do a B2B and we have always wanted to sail on Princess. When I looked up the roll call on this cruise I saw that there is not one listed. I am concerned that this cruise may be a charter or a very large group. Your concern is absolutely unfounded. Cruise Critic does not create Roll Calls per cruise. They provide a mechanism to search the Roll Calls that have been created, and they provide a mechanism to create new Roll Calls. Therefore, the next step is to create one. Go forth and conquer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Flyer Posted July 27, 2015 #6 Share Posted July 27, 2015 At the top of this forum is a sticky which has info about roll calls: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=630143 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longhorn-ED Posted July 27, 2015 Author #7 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Thanks for the responses. I do not mind starting a roll call. My TA will be back in their office on Tuesday and check with Princess for me. Also It is my understanding that Celebrity and Princess are very similar. For example is Princess more or less formal than Celebrity? Regards Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted July 27, 2015 #8 Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) Also It is my understanding that Celebrity and Princess are very similar. For example is Princess more or less formal than Celebrity? Regards Ed That would be a topic for an entirely different thread and argument. (if you know what I mean ;) :eek: ) Edited July 27, 2015 by Colo Cruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancyquilts Posted July 27, 2015 #9 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Thanks for the responses. I do not mind starting a roll call. My TA will be back in their office on Tuesday and check with Princess for me. Also It is my understanding that Celebrity and Princess are very similar. For example is Princess more or less formal than Celebrity? Regards Ed You are right. Very similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar1950 Posted July 27, 2015 #10 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Thanks for the responses. I do not mind starting a roll call. My TA will be back in their office on Tuesday and check with Princess for me. Also It is my understanding that Celebrity and Princess are very similar. For example is Princess more or less formal than Celebrity? Regards Ed That would be a topic for an entirely different thread and argument. (if you know what I mean ;) :eek: ) Yeah. There was a recent thread here asking about comments on other than Princess ships and what the differences and similarities were. There was a lot of useful information given out. There were several posts regarding Celebrity and Princess comparisons. I guess things on the thread must have deteriorated and that there must have been some contentious postings because that thread seems to have been eliminated. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary loves to travel Posted July 27, 2015 #11 Share Posted July 27, 2015 We are two couples who just booked this sailing last week. There seemed to be quite a few cabins available; AFAIK not a charter or large group, but of course that can change. Curious about how the Jones Act impacts your booking a B2B? Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted July 27, 2015 #12 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I would guess the issue is that they wanted to book a B2B on Celebrity but could not due to the Jones Act, so they are booking the other half on Princess instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longhorn-ED Posted July 27, 2015 Author #13 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I would guess the issue is that they wanted to book a B2B on Celebrity but could not due to the Jones Act, so they are booking the other half on Princess instead. You are correct. We wanted to sail on the Solstice 9/2/2016 and do a B2B to save on travel cost. I was told that the Jones act would not allow us to do it. We have only been on two cruises, both on Celebrity and loved it. I have read many good things about Princess and don't really understand the Jones act so we are eager to try Princess. Regards Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted July 28, 2015 #14 Share Posted July 28, 2015 I ... don't really understand the Jones act so we are eager to try Princess. Basically, the Jones Act says you cannot get on a ship in one USA city and end up disembarking in a different USA city unless the ship makes a stop at a distant foreign port. Vancouver is not a distant foreign port. Tahiti is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary loves to travel Posted July 28, 2015 #15 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Ah, ok, now I understand. Thanks for explaining it! Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longhorn-ED Posted July 28, 2015 Author #16 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Basically, the Jones Act says you cannot get on a ship in one USA city and end up disembarking in a different USA city unless the ship makes a stop at a distant foreign port. Vancouver is not a distant foreign port. Tahiti is. Thank you for your responding. I really don't understand what the purpose of the law is. It's an inconvenience an extra cost to cruise passengers. Regards Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JF - retired RRT Posted July 28, 2015 #17 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Thank you for your responding. I really don't understand what the purpose of the law is. It's an inconvenience an extra cost to cruise passengers. Regards Ed OLD law, leftover from when someone was trying to protect their turf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beg3yrs Posted July 28, 2015 #18 Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) The Jones Act has nothing to do with passengers. You're all talking about the Passenger Vessel Services act (PVSA). Pam tried to gently let everyone know. Here's a link which explains all this: http://www.maritimelawcenter.com/html/the_jones_act.html ---------------------- Now, if the stars align correctly, maybe OP can switch ships in Vancouver. That doesn't violate the PVSA. Edited July 28, 2015 by beg3yrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted July 28, 2015 #19 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Hi Have seen Caribbean roll calls with only 6 folks on them, while some like a trans Atlantic will have many hundreds , yours Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sprint180 Posted July 28, 2015 #20 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Hello all, We are looking at booking this cruise because of the Jones act. Celebrity will not allow us to do a B2B and we have always wanted to sail on Princess. When I looked up the roll call on this cruise I saw that there is not one listed. I am concerned that this cruise may be a charter or a very large group. Thanks in advance for any help. Regards Ed Is this cruise not stopping in a foreign port? Sorry I'm slow to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longhorn-ED Posted July 28, 2015 Author #21 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Is this cruise not stopping in a foreign port? Sorry I'm slow to follow. We are sailing on Celebrity on 9/9-19/2016 from Vancouver to Hawaii. I tried to book our ship the Solstice on an Alaska cruise 9/2-9/2016. It would be a B2B and save us on travel cost but Celebrity said can't do because of the Jones act. So I found this very nice cruise on Princess. Regards Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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