heatherbelle Posted January 17, 2016 #1 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Has anyone found out when the itinerary will be released and when bookings will start for the Miracle in 2017? Or even which ports the ship will be visiting and the lengths of the cruises? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted January 17, 2016 #2 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Good question, I am not even sure you will be able to book them they the way you cruises on a Carnival ship. My guess it would be much more like Carnival Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffatsea Posted January 17, 2016 #3 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I imagine that the China cruises will focus more on the Chinese market for passengers than on the USA market. I agree that it would probably be a separate company like Carnival Australia for booking but no one knows for sure at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted January 17, 2016 #4 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) I imagine that the China cruises will focus more on the Chinese market for passengers than on the USA market.I agree that it would probably be a separate company like Carnival Australia for booking but no one knows for sure at this point. It def will be focused on the China market, of that you can sure. A placement cruise to there would be an interesting proposition to consider. Edited January 17, 2016 by jimbo5544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATL_Miami_Cruiser Posted January 17, 2016 #5 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I would definitely be interested in doing a repositioning cruise if it included ports in south east Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micahs Grandad Posted January 17, 2016 #6 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I would definitely be interested in doing a repositioning cruise if it included ports in south east Asia. That could be a very interesting one. Strange to me that other cruise lines are building ships for the Chinese market and CCL is bringing an older ship there. Would think they would have to offer pretty good deals to fill their ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springs741 Posted January 17, 2016 #7 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Just talked to my PVP last week. When the China market opens it will focus on China. She even said "you won't be able to book it" Now that would be the repo cruise to end all repo cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idlenote Posted January 18, 2016 #8 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Last week on the Freedom the future cruise lady mentioned the repo cruise at the future cruise talk. Checked in with the PVP and she just told me that no one had any information as yet, future cruise lady said the thing when I caught her at her desk a couple of days later. Now the PVP knows I want in on this she will let me know when something is announced. We've done four of these long cruises, they are always a lot of fun and many once in a lifetime ports. Edited January 18, 2016 by idlenote clarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted January 18, 2016 #9 Share Posted January 18, 2016 That could be a very interesting one. Strange to me that other cruise lines are building ships for the Chinese market and CCL is bringing an older ship there. Would think they would have to offer pretty good deals to fill their ships. With a market that is virtually new to cruising' date=' ships will sell themselves. Also, the Asian market does not need or want all the bells and whistles that N.A. and European cruisers expect. Carnival is building new ships for China, but building them [b']in China, as Chinese flag,[/b] to get around China's cabotage laws similar to the US's PVSA. That would allow them to offer coastwise cruises strictly within China, which the government likes as it keeps more money in China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micahs Grandad Posted January 18, 2016 #10 Share Posted January 18, 2016 With a market that is virtually new to cruising, ships will sell themselves. Also, the Asian market does not need or want all the bells and whistles that N.A. and European cruisers expect. Carnival is building new ships for China, but building them in China, as Chinese flag, to get around China's cabotage laws similar to the US's PVSA. That would allow them to offer coastwise cruises strictly within China, which the government likes as it keeps more money in China. I agree with you for the first year or so but after people learn a bit about cruising think they would head toward newer and better ships. Will be interesting to see how that shakes out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted January 18, 2016 #11 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I agree with you for the first year or so but after people learn a bit about cruising think they would head toward newer and better ships. Will be interesting to see how that shakes out.. I don't think so. This is why they are phasing out the Broadway shows and stuff on these cruises, because the Asian market doesn't want it. Star cruises have been operating there for years, and they are basically casinos with restaurants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micahs Grandad Posted January 18, 2016 #12 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I don't think so. This is why they are phasing out the Broadway shows and stuff on these cruises, because the Asian market doesn't want it. Star cruises have been operating there for years, and they are basically casinos with restaurants. They will certainly make their money in the casinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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