Note to those with UBP

[weltek]

[quote name='micm']Or just be polite, hang around, have a good chat and get the same result without tipping big in the beginning.[/QUOTE]

This is what we do. I personally tip based on services rendered as a thank you, not to incentivize special treatment. Does it eventually earn me some special treatment in the long run? Sometimes. But often the ones I tip extra are the ones who always give everyone great service. I like to think the tip gives them incentive to continue going the extra mile for all customers.

But if I constantly frequented crowded bars and grew up in that culture of competing for server attention, I might do things differently at tip a lot early. But as a small city midwesterner, we've never been big on "greasing the palm." Edited January 18, 2016 by weltek

[cruzsnooze]

[quote name='SuiteCruiser']It's been stated by many different wait staff (that don't know each other) that following the UBP service charge change, their pay was reduced and they now get a flat fee and do NOT get the 18% service charge. [COLOR="Red"]One was from an ex casino employee who just heard from one of his bartender friends[/COLOR] that he's looking for work elsewhere as it's getting ridiculous. Wanted to point that out before people jump on here and say they are just looking for extra tips.

.[/QUOTE]

So you're saying your information is based on a friend of a friend and you are passing it on as fact. It's long been suggested that crew have different sob stories to part passengers from their money and you are welcome to succumb to them but don't think we're all gullible.
Any crew who talked to you about their pay should and would be fired so it's doubtful they shared their income with any passenger. Edited January 18, 2016 by cruzsnooze

[HowardK]

If a drink is $8.00 - I would definitely sign for a receipt so the server gets $1.44. I would also likely tip another $1 if I was having multiple drinks there.

I took the UBP promo for $80 in service charges- I will probably average 3 drinks a day - I'll be doing some excursions, some sleeping and it's hard to be using a UBP during those times.

If i have lets say 30 drinks on the cruise (yes, all the sudden I want 4 a day lol) and tip $1 each drink- that is then $110- $3.67 a drink with tipping vs. without tipping.

Is that extra dollar morally necessary? It is not my responsibility how they pay there workers- I am on vacation that week!!!! However, personal service is a different story and if I am going to the same spot I am going to tip.

Likewise with speciality dining, I had a great meal at Cagney's and tipped an extra $6.

[beerman2]

[quote name='cruzsnooze']So you're saying your information is based on a friend of a friend and you are passing it on as fact. It's long been suggested that crew have different sob stories to part passengers from their money and you are welcome to succumb to them but don't think we're all gullible.
Any crew who talked to you about their pay should and would be fired so it's doubtful they shared their income with any passenger.[/QUOTE]

The OP said it was a friend HE had made, not a friend of a friend. Simple!

[cruzsnooze]

[quote name='beerman2']The OP said it was a friend HE had made, not a friend of a friend. Simple![/QUOTE]

See the red in post #52, a friend of a casino person which is second hand. People love to exaggerate and say "everyone" or "we all" when it's not really a consensus at all. If you want to tip extra go ahead but to post about second hand information is silly. If the crew didn't like their jobs they'd quit but so many have been with the company for years it contradicts the OP's claims.
Tip all you want, your choice but don't try to lay a guilt trip on others who have paid 18% tip already. Edited January 18, 2016 by cruzsnooze

[SuiteCruiser]

[quote name='cruzsnooze']So you're saying your information is based on a friend of a friend and you are passing it on as fact. It's long been suggested that crew have different sob stories to part passengers from their money and you are welcome to succumb to them but don't think we're all gullible.
Any crew who talked to you about their pay should and would be fired so it's doubtful they shared their income with any passenger.[/QUOTE]

Great, so now we know that you don't believe what your friends tell you go on with their friends. Got it.

Several different sources all saying the exact same thing, and mine has ZERO reason for lying. Is he trying to get extra tips from his friend who no longer works there? How would that work?

[SuiteCruiser]

[quote name='cruzsnooze']See the red in post #52, a friend of a casino person which is second hand. People love to exaggerate and say "everyone" or "we all" when it's not really a consensus at all. If you want to tip extra go ahead but to post about second hand information is silly. If the crew didn't like their jobs they'd quit but so many have been with the company for years it contradicts the OP's claims.
Tip all you want, your choice but don't try to lay a guilt trip on others who have paid 18% tip already.[/QUOTE]

And what about the letter from the Hotel Director saying that the waitstaff in the Specialties are part of the DSC, so you've already tipped them, yet they are charging the 18% service fee.

There's plenty of smoke out there, and that usually means there's fire. It will all come out eventually. It's already starting. Edited January 18, 2016 by SuiteCruiser

[NCLfamily]

The tipping culture of the USA is crazy it has to be said. I once read on here 'if the service is bad I tip the standard 15%, if it's good I'll tip more' anywhere else in the world bad service gets dealt with by a complaint and no tip.

[murfette]

I wonder how many of the posters that don't tip extra ever worked in the service industry and relied on tips?
I did for many years as a single parent raising 3 children.
Unless service is horrible 20% should be the norm.
Truly if you had 25 drinks on a weeks cruise and you won't tip an extra dollar or $25 for the week imo you are plain cheap. These people are trying to support their families in 3 world countries. Some of you people make me sick.

[beerman2]

[quote name='cruzsnooze']See the red in post #52, a friend of a casino person which is second hand. People love to exaggerate and say "everyone" or "we all" when it's not really a consensus at all. If you want to tip extra go ahead but to post about second hand information is silly. If the crew didn't like their jobs they'd quit but so many have been with the company for years it contradicts the OP's claims.
Tip all you want, your choice but don't try to lay a guilt trip on others who have paid 18% tip already.[/QUOTE]

Go to post #1 the OP is weltek not #52 suite cruiser who was in red!
weltek said HE was the one that stated he became friends with a bartender a few posts ago.

[swedish weave]

[quote name='cruzsnooze']So you're saying your information is based on a friend of a friend and you are passing it on as fact. It's long been suggested that crew have different sob stories to part passengers from their money and you are welcome to succumb to them but don't think we're all gullible.
Any crew who talked to you about their pay should and would be fired so it's doubtful they shared their income with any passenger.[/QUOTE]

Some crew members will confide in people they feel they can trust to keep the conversations confidential. That serves to explain the different opinions that in fact dispute the truth.

None of my friends have been fired, but some have chosen to move to other cruise lines.

Those who talk about their finances and personal lives do so of their own accord and they do this when asking for guidance and help. These are young people who appreciate the information they receive and it is comforting to them to know they can do this without fear.

Think about it !!! Perhaps the hard line approach should be softened a little. Edited January 18, 2016 by swedish weave

[NCLfamily]

[quote name='murfette']I wonder how many of the posters that don't tip extra ever worked in the service industry and relied on tips?
I did for many years as a single parent raising 3 children.
Unless service is horrible 20% should be the norm.
Truly if you had 25 drinks on a weeks cruise and you won't tip an extra dollar or $25 for the week imo you are plain cheap. These people are trying to support their families in 3 world countries. Some of you people make me sick.[/QUOTE]


Really? So if someone saves their cash to pay for a holiday and when they get there the drinks are expensive, plus There's an automatic 18% gratuity and they should pay more on top?

What if on my ten day cruise my wife and I between us have 150 drinks. Have I to pay $150 extra?

[murfette]

[quote name='NCLfamily']Really? So if someone saves their cash to pay for a holiday and when they get there the drinks are expensive, plus There's an automatic 18% gratuity and they should pay more on top?

What if on my ten day cruise my wife and I between us have 150 drinks. Have I to pay $150 extra?[/QUOTE]


Maybe save your cash a little longer so you can tip 20% and then take your holiday. If you drank 150 drinks in a week I think you may have a bigger problem then being cheap


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[swedish weave]

[quote name='murfette']Maybe save your cash a little longer so you can tip 20% and then take your holiday. If you drank 150 drinks in a week I think you may have a bigger problem then being cheap


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Are the insulting personal comments necessary ???

[NCLfamily]

[quote name='murfette']Maybe save your cash a little longer so you can tip 20% and then take your holiday. If you drank 150 drinks in a week I think you may have a bigger problem then being cheap


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I think you need to take a look at your attitude. Also, read my post again. I never said I would drink 150 drinks in a week.

[murfette]

[quote name='swedish weave']Are the insulting personal comments necessary ???[/QUOTE]


Wasn't insulting anyone stating facts as I see it. As I said I worked for years in the service industry both as a bartender and server and I know first hand how people are and how cheap some people can be.
I have never participated in any of these tipping threads in the past either and have never insulted anyone on cc
20% is the norm for tipping in the USA. If you are only being charged 18% then tipping another $1 is really a no brainier.

I really sickens me how people are.


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[NCLfamily]

Did being a bartender involve reading? If so, go back and read my post again.

20% tipping is not the norm in Europe. Edited January 18, 2016 by NCLfamily

[ColinIllinois]

[quote name='murfette']I wonder how many of the posters that don't tip extra ever worked in the service industry and relied on tips?
I did for many years as a single parent raising 3 children.
Unless service is horrible 20% should be the norm.
Truly if you had 25 drinks on a weeks cruise and you won't tip an extra dollar or $25 for the week imo you are plain cheap. These people are trying to support their families in 3 world countries. Some of you people make me sick.[/quote]


Many of the cruisers are supporting their families in first world countries going from paycheck to paycheck and have saved for many years to go on a cruise. Whether they tip the minimal or tip generously it's none of your business or anyone else's.

As a "single parent who raised three children" that would seem to be an obvious point for you.

[murfette]

[quote name='NCLfamily']I think you need to take a look at your attitude. Also, read my post again. I never said I would drink 150 drinks in a week.[/QUOTE]


I am corrected 15O drinks between you and your spouse. Or 75 drinks each which means over 10 drinks a day per person.
I stand behind what I said.


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[murfette]

[quote name='NCLfamily']Did being a bartender involve reading?

20% tipping is not the norm in Europe.[/QUOTE]


You are not traveling in Europe I am speaking of closed loop cruises out if the USA. When in Rome.


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[NCLfamily]

Ten (that's ten) day cruise. You're a cracker.

[NCLfamily]

[quote name='murfette']You are not traveling in Europe I am speaking of closed loop cruises out if the USA. When in Rome.


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My next cruise and every cruise I've been on have been in Europe

[macandlucy]

[quote name='NCLfamily']Really? So if someone saves their cash to pay for a holiday and when they get there the drinks are expensive, plus There's an automatic 18% gratuity and they should pay more on top?

What if on my ten day cruise my wife and I between us have 150 drinks. Have I to pay $150 extra?[/QUOTE]

It's confusing! On a promo or purchased drinks package now you do tip 18%, which is a decent tip, especially for a beer from the bar, but some people are saying the servers and bartenders don't actually get that tip. So are they getting tipped or not?

I was under the impression (assumption) that the 18% sc was their tip, but it is not clear whether it is or not.

[murfette]

[quote name='NCLfamily']Ten (that's ten) day cruise. You're a cracker.[/QUOTE]


Missed that too. Most cruises are 7 days. Should have read it.
Not trying to start an argument.


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[cruzsnooze]

[quote name='murfette']Wasn't insulting anyone stating facts as I see it. As I said I worked for years in the service industry both as a bartender and server and I know first hand how people are and how cheap some people can be.
I have never participated in any of these tipping threads in the past either and have never insulted anyone on cc
20% is the norm for tipping in the USA. If you are only being charged 18% then tipping another $1 is really a no brainier.

I really sickens me how people are.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Tipping in the USA is 15% standard and more if desired so NCL is getting 3% extra before service is even rendered.