Je Souhaite Posted April 26, 2016 #51 Share Posted April 26, 2016 How the heck is this a layoff staff thing? If what the stewards are saying is true, that they are going up to 35 cabins to take care of, certainly someone is being laid off. Who would have time to do their job, let alone unstock and stock a fake refrigerator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted April 26, 2016 #52 Share Posted April 26, 2016 If what the stewards are saying is true, that they are going up to 35 cabins to take care of, certainly someone is being laid off. Who would have time to do their job, let alone unstock and stock a fake refrigerator. You are quite the funny guy today, fake refrigerators, certainly layoffs, going to 35 cabins. Where do you get this stuff from? Have you talked with any Carnival room stewards lately (I have)? The only certainty is that there are zero layoffs and even of there were, none would be tied to stocking or un-stocking the mini frig's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenfnverner Posted April 28, 2016 #53 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Glory last week was unlocked and fully stocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr3939 Posted April 28, 2016 #54 Share Posted April 28, 2016 It'a all about "man hours" and if you don't have to expend "man hours" stocking, un-stocking, inventorying and billing both pier side and shipboard those are "man hours" you can save. Now, multiple that by all the cabins on all the ships they own and wa la it's a lot of money. So, just for the sake of argument lets say it takes 30 minutes per cruise to service the min-bar. Keep in mind that includes staff we see and staff we don't. Quick math says 1800 cabins X 30 mins x 50 cruises a year = 45,000 man hours saved on just one ship!! What do you think they are going keep that staff around? Somebody is moving to another job, kicking somebody out of a job, and contracts are not getting renewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted April 30, 2016 #55 Share Posted April 30, 2016 It'a all about "man hours" and if you don't have to expend "man hours" stocking, un-stocking, inventorying and billing both pier side and shipboard those are "man hours" you can save. Now, multiple that by all the cabins on all the ships they own and wa la it's a lot of money. So, just for the sake of argument lets say it takes 30 minutes per cruise to service the min-bar. Keep in mind that includes staff we see and staff we don't. Quick math says 1800 cabins X 30 mins x 50 cruises a year = 45,000 man hours saved on just one ship!! What do you think they are going keep that staff around? Somebody is moving to another job, kicking somebody out of a job, and contracts are not getting renewed. I would argue it takes about 30 seconds as most people don't use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raxter54 Posted April 30, 2016 #56 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) It is also possible that Carnival has realized, thru cruiser complaints, that the room stewards need to have their workload lightened, and this was the easiest item to be removed. Sent from my iPod touch using Forums mobile app Edited April 30, 2016 by Raxter54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted April 30, 2016 #57 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) It is also possible that Carnival has realized, thru cruiser complaints, that the room stewards need to have their workload lightened, and this was the easiest item to be removed. Sent from my iPod touch using Forums mobile app Anything is possible, I was told that over half of them stay locked (I don;t know if that is by choice or default) which would put a dent in your point, but again, I have no idea, and the point will be moot soon anyway. Edited April 30, 2016 by jimbo5544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv2trvlnow Posted April 30, 2016 #58 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Also by having them unlocked the steward can say, "You don't need ice, you have the refrigerator." At least that is what our steward told us when we asked if ice was no longer being provided. He said ice is only available upon request. So we requested it. It was no problem. He kept the ice bucket full all week. This makes it easier for the steward, no unloading and reloading the mini bar and no providing ice in the ice bucket. Wait----- No ice bucket unless requested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
americaneskimo1 Posted April 30, 2016 #59 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I was happy. I never wanted to make the steward remove the stuff but I never once used any of it and like to put my own water in there. John Heald asked about the mini bar on his Facebook page more than once and my guess is most people didn't want it and removing and counting items was a lot of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AguaMala Posted April 30, 2016 #60 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I was happy. I never wanted to make the steward remove the stuff but I never once used any of it and like to put my own water in there. John Heald asked about the mini bar on his Facebook page more than once and my guess is most people didn't want it and removing and counting items was a lot of work. Next step will be having them removed, as they take up so much non profit juice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelboys3 Posted April 30, 2016 #61 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just off the Liberty on Thursday and the mini bar was fully stocked and unlocked. We never asked the steward to remove anything since we didn't need the fridge anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJF0507 Posted April 30, 2016 #62 Share Posted April 30, 2016 If keeping it stocked was profitable, they would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted April 30, 2016 #63 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Also by having them unlocked the steward can say, "You don't need ice, you have the refrigerator." At least that is what our steward told us when we asked if ice was no longer being provided. He said ice is only available upon request. So we requested it. It was no problem. He kept the ice bucket full all week. This makes it easier for the steward, no unloading and reloading the mini bar and no providing ice in the ice bucket. Wait----- No ice bucket unless requested. In 25+ Carnival cruises with the mini fridges we have never had a room steward say anything when asked about unlocking the mini fridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KroozNut Posted April 30, 2016 #64 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Was just curious as I hadn't seen a topic related to this. Just wanted to know if anybody recently off a cruise (specifically Liberty) has embarked with their mini bar fridge thing already empty? Also if it is empty, to get it stocked like normal do you contact your steward or room service or guest services? This strikes me as totally hilarious, as over the years, there have been millions of post about how to contact your cabin steward to empty the mini bar prior to sailing, now it's, 'why has it already been emptied?' LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missholly24 Posted April 30, 2016 #65 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) Ours on Splendor last month was empty. Edited April 30, 2016 by missholly24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaBrz Posted April 30, 2016 #66 Share Posted April 30, 2016 (edited) It'a all about "man hours" and if you don't have to expend "man hours" stocking, un-stocking, inventorying and billing both pier side and shipboard those are "man hours" you can save. Now, multiple that by all the cabins on all the ships they own and wa la it's a lot of money. So, just for the sake of argument lets say it takes 30 minutes per cruise to service the min-bar. Keep in mind that includes staff we see and staff we don't. Quick math says 1800 cabins X 30 mins x 50 cruises a year = 45,000 man hours saved on just one ship!! What do you think they are going keep that staff around? Somebody is moving to another job, kicking somebody out of a job, and contracts are not getting renewed. I am sure that you are a brilliant person (heck, I'd hire you), but you are also today's poster child for somebody that definitely needs to take a cruise. Chill out ... What seems as unreasonable human rights worker violations to us, for the foreign national staff aboard it is lucrative and acceptable to the workers. I live locally in Cape Canaveral and see the crew members daily at our local stores. Several new local cafe-type businesses have opened that allows the crew to exchange currency, wire funds home, and use PCs for Skyping and email. Our local Walmart and cell phone centers also overstock based on the crews' purchases. On one of my last cruises, my room steward was very sad because her six-month tour was ending. She said her income (sent back home) had supported three generations of her family with medical care, housing and food. Because of her high customer ratings, Carnival had already guaranteed her a spot back on a ship (ALERT - the reason for those customer comment cards!!), but because of international legal reasons she had to go back for some time period. Many people think that these ships are registered with foreign governments just for licensing/tax reasons, but US Labor Laws are the biggest reason. I have weighed this dilemma several times over the years ... should I boycott the industry? Or do I actually help Carmen from Panama send her kids to good schools by sailing and tipping well? I apologize for posting this here in a thread that was created for cabin mini-bars, but after James' post, I was compelled to reply. All of us cruise Carnival because of the great bargain for the $$$, but we must all acknowledge WHY we get that deal and make our own choices. For me, I have opted to help all the Carmens continue their kids' improved education and help better their family's lives. Edited April 30, 2016 by SeaBrz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJF0507 Posted July 2, 2016 #67 Share Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) Just off Glory and mini bar was full. Easy, simple request and it was emptied and ice bucket with ice 2 times a day were provided. Steward's first comment, not even as a question was "service twice a day, good with you" Edited July 2, 2016 by MJF0507 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy cruzin Posted July 2, 2016 #68 Share Posted July 2, 2016 On the Pride a couple of weeks ago - the mini bar was still full. Not an issue for us - so we didn't even ask that it be emptied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky2 Posted July 2, 2016 #69 Share Posted July 2, 2016 On the Pride a couple of weeks ago - the mini bar was still full. Not an issue for us - so we didn't even ask that it be emptied. I usually empty it myself rather than ask the steward to do it. I tell him/her that I'm putting everything on the bottom floor of the closet that has the shelves. I do leave the mini bottles of booze in the door, though, as I don't need that space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJF0507 Posted July 3, 2016 #70 Share Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) I put my own stuff in the fridge, need my closet space and our steward was more than happy to do it. Especially since it is now policy to not stock them now. Edited July 3, 2016 by MJF0507 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denisomo Posted July 4, 2016 #71 Share Posted July 4, 2016 We were on the Freedom June 11 and the fridge was full, we took everything out, except the tiny liquor bottles and filled it up with our cans we brought with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlw440 Posted July 4, 2016 #72 Share Posted July 4, 2016 (edited) On our May 14 Conquest cruise the mini bar was fully stocked. Edited July 4, 2016 by tlw440 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenhem31 Posted July 4, 2016 #73 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Empty on the Sunshine in April Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisecraze96 Posted July 4, 2016 #74 Share Posted July 4, 2016 On our May 14 Conquest cruise the mini bar was fully stocked. Ditto for our June cruise, and locked as well. We only had the water since I don't drink soda but it would have been a nice to have for some cooler water options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLHyatt Posted July 4, 2016 #75 Share Posted July 4, 2016 Breeze may 22nd fully stocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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