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I take it that your signature is wrong about 2018 MSC cruises, since it says Divina, and you write that your are really going B2B on Seaside. We are on Seaside in YC on March 3rd. Curious what weeks you are on her. Great review so far. Love the details. Thanks!

 

Thanks. You're correct, needed to correct that signature from Divina to Seaside. We've also added a 3rd leg as we are with family on one, with friends on another and want one on our own.

 

To be honest, the VALUE that we are getting booking these isn't even comparable to what we paid for a stateroom on Harmony recently ($2,000 difference for two) and 40 cents on the dollar for a comparable Haven (not counting the UBP is included in the Yacht Club re: each comparison).

 

So, we're really trying to MAX on MSC YC before there is an "adjustment."

 

Also, really looking forward to Seaside "in addition to the Yacht Club" (outside of the club).

 

On Divina, we stayed so much in the Yacht Club as the non-Yacht Club was missing quite a bit (only for comparisons to NCL's Breakaway classes outside of the Haven; not a knock). Almost everything I could mention that we'd like to have seen (better water (pools and slides), more in quantity and quality and diversity specialty restaurants, a sushi bar, more club entertainment such as comedy and or dueling piano's, a 'core or promenade, to name a few) on Divina is in some way making their way to Seaside.

 

And 'then something new with the huge open deck plans for outside dining, seating, etc. Seaside looks like there is quite a bit of ship-wide fun to experience.

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NEXT UP - INTRO TO LE MUSE

 

After the introductions to our stateroom, Top Sail, the One Deck and Concierge, our butler asks to take us down to Le Muse to pick a dining table, look at menus and meet the staff. SURE.

 

GETTING THERE OPTIONS

 

Leaving the YC to get to Le Muse, for us, involved three options.

 

1. At the end of the hallways heading aft, there is an automated door on the LEFT to get to the YC access to the elevators. For us, if it was really windy or really hot, we'd head down to DECK 7 and walk through all of the venues to the back of the ship ELEVATOR and up to DECK 15; Le Muse entrance is Starboard.

 

2. At the end of the ONE DECK there are glass YC doors that open with a PUSH OF A BUTTON from the inside (opens with A CARD from the outside); down a set of steps to the pool deck.

 

3. At the end of the hallways heading aft on 16 (for us) there is a SEA DOOR to exit after you leave the YC carded area. You can then take a quick LEFT to access steps that head down to the pool deck.

 

CAUTION: Exiting through the sea door requires a slight STEP UP. We know we stumbled on it a couple of times, and that one man fell quite badly on day one of the second week.

 

FIRST TIME

 

We chose exiting the YC and heading down the stairs to the pool deck. There was hardly anyone there as we had boarded so early. We walked with the butler past the pools all the way to the aft to the GARDEN BAR (this is the hot spot on the ship for smokers and party time all the time, always packed, always pleasantly loud). AFTER the GARDEN BAR itself, you take a left as if you were heading around the bar. There is a LARGE WOODEN SEA DOOR that you have to open to step into DECK 15. Simply walk past the elevators into the Le Muse 'welcome entrance area.

 

We were welcomed by PAULA. She has an infectious smile and genuine welcome; as nice on day 14 as on day 1. 'Hello, how are you, how is your day, welcome to Le Muse. She then escorted us to TABLE 18 (I believe; we had met MARIO* in the Top Sail and took the recommendation of 16008 on table selection) to see if we like it. We did, but to be honest, there isn't a bad table in Le Muse.

 

*MARIO is part of what made Le Muse (for us) special and unique from any other experience. He manages Le Muse, he welcomes everyone and he entertains with his "on the floor" daily lunch and or dinner PASTA specials (sauces and pasta hand made for each table or group). He also made some desserts. The guy is unbelievable; he manning his pasta station, the wait staff is prepping for him and attentive to his requests, he know WHAT TABLE the pasta is going to and he customizes from memory (i.e., for me, low carb, pasta not on the daily plan; so served on sautéed vegetable medley, spinach, greens, whatever I wanted). ALL THE TIME he is on the phone, scheduling, welcoming everyone walking in and visiting the tables. Definitely, Le Muse has some kind of EVER READY BATTERY charge.

 

We met our primary waiter, ARTHUR and his assistant FAYE. After about one day he had our dietary preferences down pat, and he would offer customization to anything on the menu or what we could have off the menu.

 

I'm 5'8" / 165, low carb, heavy on fish and lean proteins, no bread, potatoes, sugars managed but no sweets after dinner. I THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM "before the cruise." IT WAS NOT. Despite the reviews to the contrary, the FISH SELECTION was really good; I had fish, only fish, and primarily different white fish, for the first four days (without repeating), and didn't even get to the salmon until the second week. SECRET TO LE MUSE - they will make for you whatever you want, how you want it, you just need to ask (* if your waiter is not fully literate in your language, make a change right off as the only times we witnessed mistakes was because of language communication difficulties).

 

My wife is 5'6" much smaller, heavy on meat and potatoes, bread and sweets (all the time). She has a better metabolism. She had all of the goodies all the time 'the way she like it. Both of us always had greens and a tasty appetizer to start. We always had a frozen glass with a strawberry and bubbly on our table before we got our seats adjusted. We always were given the evening menu with the lunch menu so we could plan our dining and, for me, my WINE selections.

 

The WINES in Le Muse are not traditional to our selections in the Northeast US. To get a feel for what would work, Arthur would suggest and bring over bottle after bottle until we found what worked with what foods. He changed the glasses every time and was not bothered at all (he prides himself on getting a match). For the first week, before the beverage package upgrade in effect on 4/1, the wines at Le Muse were really only YC venue that had a wide selection (of course you could pay at any bar pre 4/1 or go to any bar post 4/1).

 

ATTIRE

 

We messed up planning big time. Since 2008 when we started cruising, we moved from the top with Tuxedo and formal dresses, to suite and tie and less formal dresses, to resort casual on formal nights PRIOR to this cruise. WHY? Well, we have seen a real PERCENTAGE DECREASE in formal attire over the years. So, we planned on resort casual.

 

That was a mistake. On a couple of fronts. First, there are THREE THEMED COLOR NIGHTS. We had missed that in the reviews. I was able to scramble around for one of the nights, but we weren't prepared and IT LOOKED LIKE A FUN THING TO DO. Second, in Le Muse, the formal nights were generally suit and tie and semi-formal dresses. I was a touch embarrassed, but self-justified with friends we made on each cruise when I said "I've worn a suit and tie every day for 35 years." It was an excuse, I plan on bringing a couple of suits (I've got some nice ones) on Seaside. Of note, there were several others that were casual also; we weren't alone by any means.

 

LE MUSE CONCLUSION

 

We really, really enjoyed it. I will say that, base on advice from 16008 in the YC on day one hour one, "they will get you whatever you want, you just have to ask."

 

We only ate outside of the YC or Le Muse twice in two weeks; once a week we had to nudge into the buffet to the large, fresh cooked pizza station. We had ONE SLICE each time. The best a sea over the counter (only NCL Breakaway class that has the $5 delivered anywhere on the ship pizza is top notch).

 

In perspective, Le Muse is not a specialty restaurant along the lines of Chops Grill for beef (the historic Chops, not the one we recently dined on Harmony with the jumbo colossal shrimp cocktail in a stainless steel upright that has been replaced by the 5 mini shrimp in a martini glass), or Giovanni's for Italian or Wonderland for over-the-top bold uniqueness. It best compares to NCL Haven and RCCL Coastal Kitchen. We give Le Muse the edge. First, the location, design and ambiance of Le Muse is tops. Second, the menu's and specials, and the 'have you want attitude" is really noticeable. Then there is the STAFF (from Mario, to Paula, to Arthur and Faye, and sometimes Pasqualle), the friendliest, happiest, most accommodating we've ever experienced. Mario's on floor daily entertaining preparations of sauces and pastas and sweets was, or is, unmatched by any of our other experiences.

 

I didn't even mention the 7 ounce Lobster tail yet!

 

We had the EXACT same experience! You are doing such and amazing job on your review. It is helping me to relive our week all over again. Mario and Arthur were two of the highlights for our cruise. They were truly top notch. I completely agree about the food. We had no need to go anywhere else. Oh and the cheese plate...with honey and dates....unbelievable! :) Thanks again for taking the time to write this detailed review!

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Thank you going on Divina YC in July after 16 NCL cruises in 6 years. The last 3 in the Haven or Garden Villa. I am extremely excited after your report especially about food choices. My DH is low carb also. Can you give any feedback on casino?

 

 

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Thank you going on Divina YC in July after 16 NCL cruises in 6 years. The last 3 in the Haven or Garden Villa. I am extremely excited after your report especially about food choices. My DH is low carb also. Can you give any feedback on casino?

 

 

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You're welcome.

 

Your husband will be fine with the low carb; just order whatever you want and how you want it, they bring it. If you want an item 'without a sauce or specific component, just tell them. We met SO MANY DIET special cruisers; Vegan, Vegetarian, Low Carb, Mediterranean, Gluten Free and watched Le Muse bring meals based on requests. Again, there can be a communication issue if you get a strong Italian language waiter weak in your language; so just get that taken care of up front. There are so many European cruisers that it should work for everyone.

 

I believe that you will have a really nice time and I'll be interested in your take on the Haven comparisons.

 

I do wonder if, being a summer cruise, there will be a lot more kids. There was barely a noticeable group of related families on our second week, but they have lots of other things to do outside the YC. Not a problem at all.

 

We also noticed much better blending and conversation with a large number of other cruisers, couples or groups on our B2B. Maybe we were just lucky. There really was a nice balance of other cruisers; maybe the great weather or everyone enjoying the YC.

 

Re: the CASINO.

 

Well, my life skills and professional expertise have been NO MATCH for casinos. Whether it be in Vegas or on cruise ships, I always snuck $500 (she knew anyway) to try the casinos a couple of times knowing full well the money would be gone fast at the tables. A couple of years ago, my wife just said "why don't you just walk through the casino and throw the money away in tens and twenties." I considered it (she was right, it was a pure waste of money for me, although two of my three sons are avid players; one responsible one not so much, and I've met a lot of cruisers who LOVE IT and it is a big part of their cruise).

 

So I can't help you with the casino. I believe it is non-smoking. It also didn't look too large, but a lot of YC passengers were casino go-ers based on conversations.

 

I still sneak the $500 for the standard cruise, however, we do something we really, really like to do that makes us feel good. We surprise tip anonymously to unsuspecting crew (not just those taking care of us). That feel good story for another day.

Have a great cruise.

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Formula280SS, Do you have pictures of Mario and Arthur? Don't know if we have had them on other Divina cruises or not. Hope they will be there in August.

 

Mario had indicated to us that he took over Le Muse about four months prior to our cruise (3/25/17). We don't know if there was someone prior that did what he did or not. He did state that he would be on Seaside (I don't know if that means just when it gets to Miami or earlier for the transatlantic), both are December I believe.

 

We have iPhone videos with each of them (Le Muse welcome, Mario cooking in front of the emergency exit doors toward the aft pool). I've never uploaded videos. :(

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Mario had indicated to us that he took over Le Muse about four months prior to our cruise (3/25/17). We don't know if there was someone prior that did what he did or not. He did state that he would be on Seaside (I don't know if that means just when it gets to Miami or earlier for the transatlantic), both are December I believe.

 

We have iPhone videos with each of them (Le Muse welcome, Mario cooking in front of the emergency exit doors toward the aft pool). I've never uploaded videos. :(

Ok thanks. I've never uploaded pictures or videos either.

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A brief background, we've only been cruising since 2008 (see expanded signature below) and we've been fortunate to have been on some very new (at the time) ships. At the time we were in our early 50's and had just completed paying for three sons college, graduate school and also one law school; and they were off to Southern California, Annapolis Area Maryland and Boston. It was time for us, and the grandchildren hadn't started to arrive yet. We also scheduled the cruises 'around peak holidays, and school vacations, and more time significant, around travel to each of the sons homes a couple of times a year. We travel a lot now; wife flies for free on a Companion Pass as a benefit.

 

At first, my wife was very concerned about cruising (concern about sea sickness) and we started with the Disney "brand" on a short cruise since she was comfortable with the 'brand based on our almost 20 years of on-site at Disney Yacht Club as the family grew (including friends and girlfriends, it was always a blast).

 

The first night was rough water and we had dining in the premier specialty restaurant Palo. It was above great, and despite the ship's movement (they escorted us all the way out to the hallway to our stateroom) we found out we had great sea legs (and stomachs). And it began. We have a fantastic time, especially the Adult private beach on Castaway Cay with only about 6-8 other couples. It was stunning beauty.

 

We then followed CRUISE CRITIC as the "primary source" for information about cruising. It is an AWESOME resource (the members contributions are so helpful), and began a schedule of annual cruising. We have been expanded our number of cruises recently (decreased time commitments) and are excited about the projection of ships that are scheduled by most of the major cruise lines. We believe the CAPACITY or SUPPLY is outrunning the advance DEMAND (we also used to book 'last minute with our almost total flexibility in scheduling, and received some incredible experiences and value), so we are rapidly booking ahead now with really significant perks, discounts, etc. on really nice ships and stateroom categories.

 

So, late last year we were looking at the NCL Escape for another Haven experience in a category above Haven Spa (we had no use for the in room tub). In the CC threads we often noticed comparisons to MSC Yacht Club. We had zip, nada, zero knowledge of MSC. Went over to that forum and saw the same comparisons.

 

So, after reviewing the ships (and acknowledging we've been on Breakaway and Getaway), and comparing the cost (NCL Escape Haven was $2,000 more per person than the MSC Yacht Club, and the Yacht Club including the Ultimate Beverage Package; upgraded on 4/1 to premium brands 'across the ship) we made the choice to dip in and try MSC, the Divina and the Yacht Club. We were also influenced by the website presentation of the two new classes of ships in the making, especially the Seaside.

 

So we booked TWO MSC Yacht Club (B2B 3/25-4/8/17) experiences.

 

We have used a big box for reservations and got the same stateroom 16009 for the B2B cruises. Then, using CC members threads on the Status Match program, completed the process and got the Gold level and the 5% discount, which was retroactively credited to our account.

 

As far as planning, it was then an immediate and noticeable difference as the specialty dining options were much more limited than comparable ships on other lines, and the shows were shorter and doubled up most nights; thereby eliminating assembling a schedule by day of 'at sea, 'at port, 'show and 'dining coordination. Also, the REVIEWS of the Yacht Club dining options, and Le Muse, were pretty good, so we felt we were all set.

 

I will say the MSC website did have some issues. It appears they've got a ways to go in the IT management of such; because with $9B in new ships and an island on the roll out schedule, they are going to need it.

 

As far as excursions, after our first couple of cruises to the same ports, we've become enthusiasts OF THE SHIP on port days. As we will detail later, this plan didn't disappoint on our Divina cruises. We will explain; awesome times and service.

 

So, over the weekend, we're planning to re-visit our cruises with a FOCUS ON THE YACHT CLUB EXPERIENCE for the benefit of CRUISE CRITIC members that have provided us WITH SO MUCH VALUABLE INFORMATION since 2008. We hope that our re-visit sharing will help someone with some question.

 

We will make some 'off focus comments. For example, the WIFI package was cheap and the signal was fantastic throughout the ship in all weather conditions. Also, the passenger mix appeared to us to be 40%+ European, much lower average age and very few children on our cruises. Also, very 'nice (elevator courtesy, chairs when walking, etc.) with the tiny joking exception common to all ships we've sailed, the 'buffet battles (we went in twice for the pizza - - yes, best at sea over the counter).

 

WE ALSO WAITED TO DO THIS FOR SELFISH REASONS. In all honesty, we wanted to make sure we confirmed our reservations for Seaside next spring (we've actually got to update our Signature of B2B to a B3B) as one week will have one son and wife also in a YC stateroom and another couple for a different week in a YC stateroom also.

 

The YACHT CLUB EXPERIENCE is highlighted by a number of cruise line top venues and amenities and incredible service and also the incredible VALUE. IMO, we can't see MSC being able to maintain this low, relative costing (to the other 'ship within a ship cruise lines that offer such) for too long.

Hi ,I'm wondering can you tell me at what time in hours before enmbarkation you can go to yc. I'm in yc at end of may boarding 315 but it is suggested to go sooner for priority booking but how soon. Loving the whole thing here.

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Hi ,I'm wondering can you tell me at what time in hours before enmbarkation you can go to yc. I'm in yc at end of may boarding 315 but it is suggested to go sooner for priority booking but how soon. Loving the whole thing here.

We try to arrive around 11am and get on as soon as boarding is allowed. You will have a special area to wait till boarding begins and will be some of the first to board.

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Were you in the same stateroom for both cruises? We are doing a B2B in the YC in July, but couldn't get the same stateroom for both. Our TA told us that our butler will most likely move everything for us when we have to "move" 2 doors down for the 2nd cruise.

 

I'm assuming you had to leave the ship after cruise #1 and check in again for cruise #2? If so, how long did that process take?

 

 

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You're welcome.

 

 

 

Your husband will be fine with the low carb; just order whatever you want and how you want it, they bring it. If you want an item 'without a sauce or specific component, just tell them. We met SO MANY DIET special cruisers; Vegan, Vegetarian, Low Carb, Mediterranean, Gluten Free and watched Le Muse bring meals based on requests. Again, there can be a communication issue if you get a strong Italian language waiter weak in your language; so just get that taken care of up front. There are so many European cruisers that it should work for everyone.

 

 

 

I believe that you will have a really nice time and I'll be interested in your take on the Haven comparisons.

 

 

 

I do wonder if, being a summer cruise, there will be a lot more kids. There was barely a noticeable group of related families on our second week, but they have lots of other things to do outside the YC. Not a problem at all.

 

 

 

We also noticed much better blending and conversation with a large number of other cruisers, couples or groups on our B2B. Maybe we were just lucky. There really was a nice balance of other cruisers; maybe the great weather or everyone enjoying the YC.

 

 

 

Re: the CASINO.

 

 

 

Well, my life skills and professional expertise have been NO MATCH for casinos. Whether it be in Vegas or on cruise ships, I always snuck $500 (she knew anyway) to try the casinos a couple of times knowing full well the money would be gone fast at the tables. A couple of years ago, my wife just said "why don't you just walk through the casino and throw the money away in tens and twenties." I considered it (she was right, it was a pure waste of money for me, although two of my three sons are avid players; one responsible one not so much, and I've met a lot of cruisers who LOVE IT and it is a big part of their cruise).

 

 

 

So I can't help you with the casino. I believe it is non-smoking. It also didn't look too large, but a lot of YC passengers were casino go-ers based on conversations.

 

 

 

I still sneak the $500 for the standard cruise, however, we do something we really, really like to do that makes us feel good. We surprise tip anonymously to unsuspecting crew (not just those taking care of us). That feel good story for another day.

 

 

Have a great cruise.

 

 

Thank you!

 

 

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Hi ,I'm wondering can you tell me at what time in hours before enmbarkation you can go to yc. I'm in yc at end of may boarding 315 but it is suggested to go sooner for priority booking but how soon. Loving the whole thing here.

 

We had a scheduled 2:30 boarding time but we arrived at about 11AM (make sure your driver, taxi, etc.) drops you off right at the Yacht Club tent. They took us immediately inside for registration and reception room.

 

After a small group assembles in the reception room, they let you know how long it will be before the next group is escorted up to the YC. It didn't matter what time our schedule was for.

 

Again, make sure you are dropped off right at the Yacht Club curbside tent. The rest of the area is a zoo with thousands LEAVING and thousands ARRIVING.

 

Have a great time.

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Were you in the same stateroom for both cruises? We are doing a B2B in the YC in July, but couldn't get the same stateroom for both. Our TA told us that our butler will most likely move everything for us when we have to "move" 2 doors down for the 2nd cruise.

 

I'm assuming you had to leave the ship after cruise #1 and check in again for cruise #2? If so, how long did that process take?

 

 

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Yes, we were in the same stateroom for the B2B. It made it really easy. We also met others who were either B2B in different YC staterooms or from non-Yacht Club staterooms to the YC for the second week. Everyone we spoke to said it was no effort at all on their part; the butler did everything.

 

With regard to the process of Customs on the switch day on a B2B, we all assembled at the instructed time in the Black and White Lounge on Deck 7.

 

We were told 'there was an issue and it did take about 45 minutes or so. When they got the 'green light from Customs, we were escorted down past the first group (boarding new crew, etc.) right up to the Customs. We were identified by the ship crew as the 'back to back, he took a quick look at the passports and we headed right back on board to where ever we wanted to go.

 

We heard the transition crew on the gangway state that the delay was caused by 'one passenger upset with his bill and he would not leave the ship. They stated that Customs' security (not sure what that means; maybe Customs and local law enforcement) had to 'take him off.

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We try to arrive around 11am and get on as soon as boarding is allowed. You will have a special area to wait till boarding begins and will be some of the first to board.

HI Cruisegal1208

Thank you for that, seems like I may head out to the port a little earlier than I thought.

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We had a scheduled 2:30 boarding time but we arrived at about 11AM (make sure your driver, taxi, etc.) drops you off right at the Yacht Club tent. They took us immediately inside for registration and reception room.

 

After a small group assembles in the reception room, they let you know how long it will be before the next group is escorted up to the YC. It didn't matter what time our schedule was for.

 

Again, make sure you are dropped off right at the Yacht Club curbside tent. The rest of the area is a zoo with thousands LEAVING and thousands ARRIVING.

 

Have a great time.

Hi Formula280SS

Thanks for that, getting the whole idea now and I will remember about the luggage. Really appreciate your reply.

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Hi Formula280SS

Thanks for that, getting the whole idea now and I will remember about the luggage. Really appreciate your reply.

 

Thanks. We all benefit from CC's members experiences.

 

If you get there @ 11AM, get the intro' and have a quick lunch @ Le Muse, or Top Sail or One Bar, you'll be on the ONE DECK in the sun, with a drink(s) for hours (versus showing up later in the afternoon), in the hot tubs and the cold salt water pool well before everyone else.

 

It's like adding 'a day.

 

Remember, Divina is a late departure date (believed to be to allow for European travelers time needs, which makes total sense) from the port, so you can sun all afternoon (stay away from the rest of the ship IMO, thousands exploring), meet everyone on the ONE DECK (including the Bar staff), have an early dinner a @ Le Muse, and view the sail away late from ONE DECK, your stateroom balcony, Top Sail or other.

 

Have fun, and make a list of your 'findings to let us all know.

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Did they still have reserved seats in the shows for YC?

 

I wish I could answer your question, but I can't. We walked in to the theater 15 minutes prior to start and we like to seat lower right which is always open.

 

I can say that other YC cruisers talked about YC priority seating location; some said not so great, others said great. Some said formal nights only, others said whenever they asked.

 

So, I don't know.

 

Maybe someone else could chime in to let you know.

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I wish I could answer your question, but I can't. We walked in to the theater 15 minutes prior to start and we like to seat lower right which is always open.

 

I can say that other YC cruisers talked about YC priority seating location; some said not so great, others said great. Some said formal nights only, others said whenever they asked.

 

So, I don't know.

 

Maybe someone else could chime in to let you know.

They did have YC seating in the theater at all times. We thought the view was great. It also helped not getting stuck behind the crowds when leaving as well since we had our own section. They are located on the left hand side as you enter the theater on deck 7. The Butler that is there will recognize you right away and will escort you in.

 

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I take it that your signature is wrong about 2018 MSC cruises, since it says Divina, and you write that your are really going B2B on Seaside. We are on Seaside in YC on March 3rd. Curious what weeks you are on her. Great review so far. Love the details. Thanks!

 

Whoops, did change Divina to Seaside, also here are the dates of the B3B:

 

March 3, 2018 - Same Stateroom

March 10, 2018 - Same Stateroom

March 17, 2018 - Different Stateroom

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Hi Formula280SS

Thanks for that, getting the whole idea now and I will remember about the luggage. Really appreciate your reply.

 

Bear in mind that a lot of the info you're being given is for embarkation at Miami (for Divina) or, in the case on another thread, the photo of the YC tent is at Barcelona. Things may be a little different in Copenhagen.

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Whoops, did change Divina to Seaside, also here are the dates of the B3B:

 

March 3, 2018 - Same Stateroom

March 10, 2018 - Same Stateroom

March 17, 2018 - Different Stateroom

 

Look forward to meeting you on March 3rd! Thanks again for your helpful and honest review!

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:loudcry:

Bear in mind that a lot of the info you're being given is for embarkation at Miami (for Divina) or, in the case on another thread, the photo of the YC tent is at Barcelona. Things may be a little different in Copenhagen.

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Beamafar,

that could have gotten interesting with me looking for a tent etc but you have all being great and I really appreciate the help. I'm not used to what is going to be exciting nor ever had such luxury or help , just hope I'm not lost in y.c. I tend to be the one to do rather than have done for me so might get embarrassing.

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