dogs on board

[SPARKLE10]

Hi:

 

If I owned a cruise ship, I would allow dogs and ban all smokers.........

 

Happy Cruising....Sparkle 10:)

[Ericknow32]

Hi:

 

If I owned a cruise ship, I would allow dogs and ban all smokers.........

 

Happy Cruising....Sparkle 10:)

Not to be mean but I don't think you would own that cruise ship for to long.

[macpiper]

Hi:

 

If I owned a cruise ship, I would allow dogs and ban all smokers.........

 

Happy Cruising....Sparkle 10:)

Sign us up for the inaugural cruise!!!:D

[parrotthead]

Some people are allergic to perfume. So I guess perfume wearers should be banned from cruise ships as well. Makes as much sense as your statement about dog allergies.

;) And shellfish...some people are allerigic to shellfish...no lobster or shrimp anymore...gee thanks...:(

[critterchick]

My dogs are my children, but I wouldn't dream of taking them on a cruise. The older one HATES water and the younger one gets carsick, so I can only imagine what would happen on the high seas! Now a ship's cat in my cabin, that I could go for!:D

[funforsun]

These people who take dogs to stores, malls, grocery , restaurants etc are rude.

 

How is the simple act of bringing a dog to the mall rude? If the dog did something, like bark or puke or poo/pee or step on you, fine, you have a legitamite beef. But the simple presence of the animal is in no way rude in itself. Same thing on a cruise ship. The simple presence of the animal is not rude or anything else. If the animal did something to bother you on the ship (other than be present), then there are probably much more offensive things that are present on the ship that bother people than a dog, and I won't list them here.

Glad to hear from Nitra that it is difficult and the proper paperwork must be supplied and that paperwork is extensive. That is probably enough to keep the regular dogs off.

[Ocean Boy]

Lets see, as I remember it, we lost the convenience of having Sprinkles on the Royal Prominade because rude people were making a mess, a charge was instituted at J.R.'s because rude people were packing the place and wasting food and creating long lines. I have read about pools being shut down for cleaning because of rude people bringing in non toilet trained kids who have accidents. I've read of adult only pools being over run with rude kid, some even with their rude parents consent. But, I've never read on post of any issue caused by a rude dog. Go figure.

 

And shellfish...some people are allerigic to shellfish...no lobster or shrimp anymore...gee thanks...

No one shoves the shellfish down anyone's throat. People have that choice. But I've seen asthma attacks triggered by perfume and cigarette smoke. Folks don't have much coice when it comes to having to breathe in air.

 

I'm glad they don't let dogs routinely on the ships but only because it makes it easier for me to leave mine home.

[BobBeaSea]

WOOF! WOOF! Hi, my name is SPOT, I am a "service" dog. My job is to get my master (BobBeaSea) buckets of beer from the Pool Bar on our Apr. 2 Radiance cruise. My master has cleared me with RCCL and everything is shipshape! SSShhhh! He doesn't know I am posting this. :D

 

Seriously, no problems with service dogs here.:)

[Grumm]

Firstly let me state my case re animals. I love them. We have a German Shepherd called Ranger and until last Monday, two cats (our male cat died recently). I agree with everyone who says that a cruise ship is no place for a dog. I don't want to appear overly-judgemental, but if the lady involved couldn't bear to be apart from her dog, she should have holidayed in a dog rescue centre. All that extra therapy at no cost!

 

Give me a break!

 

Alan

[steve20832]

Many dogs are used to detect seizures, diabetic shock....all sorts of things other than seeing eye dogs. By law, people are not allowed to question/argue whether or not a dog is an assistance dog. Because of this, unfortunately, many people take advantage.

 

I am not saying whether or not this was a legitimate service dog, but it was most likely allowed on the ship to serve as one.

 

Tracy

 

With 3000 or so people on a cruise ship, if that person did collapse or have a seizure, someone would see it within seconds. There is also a medical staff on the ship to assist as well. Animals should be left at home and not be allowed on the ship. (Except seeing eye dogs.) If you do bring a PET onboard, I hope it jumps overboard just to teach the owner a lesson.

[GMoney]

Lots of mean-spirited people on this posting. It's one thing to disagree, but another thing entirely to wish ill will.

[Retired not Expired]

With 3000 or so people on a cruise ship, if that person did collapse or have a seizure, someone would see it within seconds. There is also a medical staff on the ship to assist as well. Animals should be left at home and not be allowed on the ship. (Except seeing eye dogs.) If you do bring a PET onboard, I hope it jumps overboard just to teach the owner a lesson.

 

Since most passengers would spend at least 1/3 of the cruise in their cabin, sleeping, bathing, changing, etc., there wouldn't be too many people around if they had a seizure in there.

 

The dogs are trained to spot a seizure coming before most people would realize it.

[Grumm]

Lots of mean-spirited people on this posting. It's one thing to disagree, but another thing entirely to wish ill will.

 

Lighten up Patrick. I'm sure that everyone sympathises with genuine cases of illness or hardship. Maybe this case is taking matters to the extreme. Any perceived ill-wishes have been posted in a light-hearted manner.

 

Alan

[SPARKLE10]

Hi:

 

We just came back from a New Years Eve cruise on the Dawn Princess and a blind couple had two seeing eye dogs and they went everywhere. They had a message on their harness not to pet them and I didn't but my DH saw me stop like I was going to because he knows I can't resist seeing dogs and petting them (we have two of our own); and no, I really don't think they should be on a ship unless they're service dogs. These dogs were amazing and this couple went all over the ship. We walked through the gym one day and the dogs were laying there waiting for the couple to get off of the treadmills. Then we met them one day in the hallway and asked them if they needed help as they were just standing there and they said they wanted to go downstairs but the dogs were heading upstairs, so we helped them get going in the right direction. Again, I wanted to pet them but their sign said not to, so I didn't. They even won at Bingo. We were playing one day and they have the winners come down to the stage and say where they were from and one of them came down with their dog. Another time we saw them leaving the casino and they said, no we didn't win. I thought it was cute one day, my DH wanted to take a nap and I didn't, so I went to the afternoon movie and it was "Must Love Dogs" and that's one reason I went, and I hadn't seen the movie; anyway, when I was leaving, the blind couple were seated at the back of the theater and the dogs were there and they had come to the movie, "Must Love Dogs"....I thought that was neat.

 

Happy Cruising....Sparkle 10

[Grumm]

That's a great story and I hope that they had a nice cruise. Please don't think I'm being facetious, but how can a blind person play Bingo?

 

Alan

[Arwenmark]

That's a great story and I hope that they had a nice cruise. Please don't think I'm being facetious, but how can a blind person play Bingo?

 

Alan

Braille Bingo Cards!

[madelinerose]

Aaaahhh, thank you Isaac! Was wondering if anyone else was thinking the same.

 

Seems as though the op didn't approach the dog owner to ask about the dog, but just continued being "disgusted" for the entire cruise. It also seems that the op didn't ask any RCI personnel why the dog was onboard. Stewing over something out of my control is certainly not where I want to go on vacation.

 

Personally, I'm a major animal lover and to witness a service animal on a cruise ship would be a delight for both DH and me.;)

 

As I read through this, I kept waiting to get to the part where the dog actually did something to detract from other passengers' enjoyment of the cruise. So far, I've come up with wearing fancy jewelry and attracting affection and attention from other passengers. Yowsers.

 

We can only speculate to the legitimacy of the "service" nature of this dog, but in the end we will never know. Since this dog's greatest offense was attracting "oohs and ahhs," I'm not sure what the problem is. RCCL obviously knew the dog was onboard (as they must have been distracted by its shiny collar) and were ok with it. If it concerns you that much, I'd suggest contacting RCCL about their dog policy and make sure you are ok with it before cruising with them again.

 

And chill out. You're supposed to be on vacation.

[madelinerose]

Wow, what a nice sentiment, thank you! :rolleyes: :mad:

 

(Except seeing eye dogs.) If you do bring a PET onboard, I hope it jumps overboard just to teach the owner a lesson.

[Giventofly]

This is where the Cruise Lines need to draw the line. Either allows pet or do not allow pets, including service dogs. It won't be long, and it sounds like it may have already happened, until someone "says" their 'pet' is a 'service dog', and it is really just an excuse because "I can't stand to be without Fluffy while I'm out having a good time." I vote NO DOGS, PERIOD.

 

[rant]

 

In 100 posts on this board, I've never flamed anyone, but oooohhhhh you made me mad.

 

I hope that you or a loved one never has to deal with the emotional pain of not being to access a product or service because of a disability, due to the short sightedness of people like yourself. Shame on you.

 

 

Second.....did the presence of the dog in ANY WAY reduce your enjoyment of the cruise? (other than your desire to complain about it) I highly doubt it.

 

Third......ALLERGIES? cruzegirl Are you kidding me? I'm allergic to cigarette smoke, and you don't see me ranting about throwing all the smokers off.

 

Finally....Shame on a lot of you. In this country, mental health has been turned into some sort of taboo. Some doctors consider mental health more important than physical health, yet when someone uses a non traditional treatment method instead of pumping their circulatory systems full of controlled substances, All the psudo-know-it-all's decide to come out of the woodwork and sound off in cyberspace. Man...I wish I had the ability to diagnose and perscribe for mental illness over the internet like you do! What a talent some of you have.

 

[/rant]

 

Sorry. I had to get that off my chest.

[Giventofly]

With 3000 or so people on a cruise ship, if that person did collapse or have a seizure, someone would see it within seconds. There is also a medical staff on the ship to assist as well. Animals should be left at home and not be allowed on the ship. (Except seeing eye dogs.) If you do bring a PET onboard, I hope it jumps overboard just to teach the owner a lesson.

 

You aren't very well informed, are you. Medical treatment dogs can detect a seisure up to TWENTY MINUTES BEFORE it happens, enabling the patient to take preventative measures to minimize danger if the event. An epileptic can inform people to go get help, get a blanket, move furnature out of the way, and lie down in a safe place. Without the dog, a seisure dog owner can make sure that they aren't walking down a flight of staris when the seisure hits (possibly saving a life or serious injury).

 

 

Also....I was not aware that all 3000 people on a cruise ship watch me while I sleep like a dog can.

[madforcruising]

Also....I was not aware that all 3000 people on a cruise ship watch me while I sleep like a dog can.

 

Didn´t you know about this new safety feature? It was installed after the Smith case. There are cameras in every cabin now monitoring everything and it´s not only recorded but also broadcasted on the cabin TV. Some of course will be adult rated and only pay per view. So this would be how you can limit it to less than 3000 people.:D :D

[Giventofly]

Didn´t you know about this new safety feature? It was installed after the Smith case. There are cameras in every cabin now monitoring everything and it´s not only recorded but also broadcasted on the cabin TV. Some of course will be adult rated and only pay per view. So this would be how you can limit it to less than 3000 people.:D :D

 

Perhaps they could have a live feed to CNN?

[PEGLEG]

While it is true that in the USA they passed a law called ADA that requires to remove barriers for the roughly 18% of disabled people, some of these removals now handicap the other 82%. And let’s say you take your service dog on a cruise. Are they going to allow the dog to get off in a foreign country? Maybe, maybe not. And if a person is bound to a wheelchair, are they going to be able to maneuver? Remember, foreign countries don't have ADA. And how many abusers are there? And how far will they go? Just the other day I was in an airport. I walked past my gate to use the restroom. I noticed a 60 or so year old lady in a wheelchair and what appeared to be her sister and B-I-L. Upon returning from the restroom, I took a seat in the waiting area and noticed the two ladies were gone. The empty wheelchair parked next to the man. A few minutes later here come the two ladies, both walking, at a normal pace, with no assistance, carrying bags of food and drinks from McDonalds. Now the McD's was about 1000 feet away from the waiting area. The lady resumed her position in the wheelchair. They ate their food and a few minutes later they announced boarding for all who needed assistance. Well from the waiting area to the plane is maybe a 100 foot walk? Guess who couldn't walk to the plane? Guess she was tired out from walking to McD's? I see way too much of this type of activity going on. Result of crooked doctors, creating false reports? Maybe. There is definitely something wrong with the system. So, just eliminate all the crap and then there wouldn't be any violators.

[Susan in Maine]

OK, folks, it's time for some clarifications regarding ADA, Service Animals and Cruises.

 

First of all, there have been mixed results in the courts regarding whether or not cruise lines, since the ships are registered in other countries, are required to comply with Americans with Disabilities Act. So if RCCL or any other line is allowing service animals on board, it is because it's smarter than dealing with the court cases.

 

ADA trumps any and all state laws, unless those laws are MORE favorable to the disabled. This includes Board of Health, Agriculture, and any other State statues. States cannot have any laws or regulations that limit the scope of ADA. Period. If California has the laws that the poster stated, you can bet your you-know-what that disabilities activitists are taking them to court, and the state of California will lose.

 

Under ADA, individuals and their service animals have very specific rights and protections, but they also have certain obligations. A 'service animal' may be a dog, monkey, even a horse. If the animal is in any way disruptive - that is threatening other customers, misbehaving or the owner does not have complete control of the animal, the owner can be asked to remove the animal. However, you CANNOT force the owner to leave.

 

There are two - and only two - questions that may be asked to determine if an animal is a bonafide service animal. 1) How was the animal trained and 2) what service does the animal provide. You cannot ask what disability the individual has, nor can you ask for documentation. Clearly a puppy picked up at the pound last week doesn't qualify.

 

Again, this information applies to public accomodations inside the US. By and large, the cruise ships try to adhere to these regulations as well.

 

It is NOT true that you can walk on a cruise ship claiming that your pet is a service animal. You must prove that it is one, and have significant documentation. You are also responsible for the care of the animal.

 

You are also quite resricted as to going off the ship. It requires a LOT of work and not inconsiderable cost to bring a service animal on a cruise ship.

 

I work for a small business lobby, and am responsible for educating our members as to their obligation under ADA.

 

Sorry for the length of the post, but I hope it clarifies some of the misunderstandings.

[Christy1120]

It may not be a joke, but it's pretty funny. I am curious how the dog helps. Did it talk this person out of jumping off the back of the boat??? It must be RCI's version of Jack Dawson. "You Jump, I Jump".