Rare TampaGambler Posted August 6, 2022 #1 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Does the Reflection have a retreat lounge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted August 6, 2022 #2 Share Posted August 6, 2022 (edited) Reflection has the original Michael's Club, which substitutes for the Retreat Lounge. Besides the decor the biggest difference between the two is the lack of a mini buffet in Michel's Club. You won't find a display of food items and instead there's late afternoon canapes served on a small tray for a limited hour each night. Other than the afternoon canapes (literally one tray of crudities) there is no food or snacks served in Michael's Club, not even Bar mix. There is, however, three very large refrigerated cases that hold various cold drinks, both alcoholic and non. All are available self serve, unlimited. There is supposedly a remodel of Michael's Club to the new Retreat Lounge standard coming this Fall during the drydock. Edited August 6, 2022 by kwokpot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted August 6, 2022 #3 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Photos of the current (Pre-renovation) Michael's Club on the Reflection: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TampaGambler Posted August 6, 2022 Author #4 Share Posted August 6, 2022 36 minutes ago, kwokpot said: Reflection has the original Michael's Club, which substitutes for the Retreat Lounge. Besides the decor the biggest difference between the two is the lack of a mini buffet in Michel's Club. You won't find a display of food items and instead there's late afternoon canapes served on a small tray for a limited hour each night. Other than the afternoon canapes (literally one tray of crudities) there is no food or snacks served in Michael's Club, not even Bar mix. There is, however, three very large refrigerated cases that hold various cold drinks, both alcoholic and non. All are available self serve, unlimited. There is supposedly a remodel of Michael's Club to the new Retreat Lounge standard coming this Fall during the drydock. Thank you very much for the reply and pictures... We were trying to get on the Apex or Beyond over thanksgiving, but it appears the retreat is fully booked, we need two rooms (one for 4 people and one for 3). We saw the Reflection was available, but being a slightly older ship, I wasn't sure how nice the retreat area was compared to newer ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted August 6, 2022 #5 Share Posted August 6, 2022 43 minutes ago, kwokpot said: There is supposedly a remodel of Michael's Club to the new Retreat Lounge standard coming this Fall during the drydock. Source, please? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelayne Posted August 6, 2022 #6 Share Posted August 6, 2022 The Reflection does not have the Retreat Sun Deck. Michael’s Club/Retreat Lounge when we’re were on was at peak times ( late afternoon -early evening) very crowded. It has large overstuffed chairs making moving around difficult. The absolute best thing in there is the bartender Cranston. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted August 6, 2022 #7 Share Posted August 6, 2022 1 minute ago, canderson said: Source, please? I was told this by the Retreat host's when I was on the Reflection back in February, and there have been numerous threads here on CC with people who sailed on the Reflection this year saying the same thing. Is it a 100% done deal? No, there's no posted 'official' statement from Celebrity themselves, which is why I used the word supposedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted August 6, 2022 #8 Share Posted August 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, jelayne said: The absolute best thing in there is the bartender Cranston. Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted August 6, 2022 #9 Share Posted August 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, kwokpot said: I was told this by the Retreat host's when I was on the Reflection back in February, and there have been numerous threads here on CC with people who sailed on the Reflection this year saying the same thing. I ask because this would nominally only occur during the "Revolution", and that won't be happening in October, nor probably in January 2023 when it was originally scheduled, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted August 6, 2022 #10 Share Posted August 6, 2022 21 minutes ago, TampaGambler said: We were trying to get on the Apex or Beyond over thanksgiving, but it appears the retreat is fully booked, we need two rooms (one for 4 people and one for 3). We saw the Reflection was available, but being a slightly older ship, I wasn't sure how nice the retreat area was compared to newer ships. The Refection as a whole is in excellent condition. After sailing on the Edge and Apex I was concerned about being on an older ship. The ship is immaculate. As for the Michaels's Club/The Retreat you can see for yourself what the current lounge looks like. It's dark with a traditional 'Clubby' atmosphere. If the rumored renovation does indeed happen in the October drydock, the space will look much brighter and modern. Here is a photo of the same space on the Silhouette, which had it's Michael's Club renovated to the Retreat Lounge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzbo Posted August 6, 2022 #11 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Reflection ends its Italy, Croatia & Montenegro on October 12th in Rome. The next cruise is the Transatlantic from Barcelona on October 31st. There is a dry dock, but doubtful that’s long enough to complétele “Revolutionize” the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelayne Posted August 6, 2022 #12 Share Posted August 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jazzbo said: Reflection ends its Italy, Croatia & Montenegro on October 12th in Rome. The next cruise is the Transatlantic from Barcelona on October 31st. There is a dry dock, but doubtful that’s long enough to complétele “Revolutionize” the ship. Not only is there not enough time, they revolutionizing is very expensive and they are still losing$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted August 6, 2022 #13 Share Posted August 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jazzbo said: Reflection ends its Italy, Croatia & Montenegro on October 12th in Rome. The next cruise is the Transatlantic from Barcelona on October 31st. There is a dry dock, but doubtful that’s long enough to complétele “Revolutionize” the ship. The rumors were never about a total Revolution of the Reflection, only that Michael's Club would be renovated during the two week dry dock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayden Posted August 6, 2022 #14 Share Posted August 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, Jazzbo said: Reflection ends its Italy, Croatia & Montenegro on October 12th in Rome. The next cruise is the Transatlantic from Barcelona on October 31st. There is a dry dock, but doubtful that’s long enough to complétele “Revolutionize” the ship. Ends the 17th, in Rome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzbo Posted August 7, 2022 #15 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Whoops — missed that on Celebrity’s stellar website.🤷♀️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaNavy Posted August 10, 2022 #16 Share Posted August 10, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 1:19 PM, kwokpot said: The rumors were never about a total Revolution of the Reflection, only that Michael's Club would be renovated during the two week dry dock. Will they also turn the Solstice Deck into a suite sun deck? That would be sad indeed for everyone on the TA who might be planning on using it but aren't in suites. Celebrity has beautiful ships, not so crazy about their business model - lots of upcharges, "exclusive" stuff for this and that, cutting up the observation lounge for one big new suite, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare go.without.you Posted August 10, 2022 #17 Share Posted August 10, 2022 I've also heard they plan to convert a Retreat deck. I'm booked for Tday so I hope that's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D C Posted August 10, 2022 #18 Share Posted August 10, 2022 On 8/6/2022 at 12:58 PM, kwokpot said: The Refection as a whole is in excellent condition. After sailing on the Edge and Apex I was concerned about being on an older ship. The ship is immaculate. As for the Michaels's Club/The Retreat you can see for yourself what the current lounge looks like. It's dark with a traditional 'Clubby' atmosphere. If the rumored renovation does indeed happen in the October drydock, the space will look much brighter and modern. Here is a photo of the same space on the Silhouette, which had it's Michael's Club renovated to the Retreat Lounge. Michael's Club looks more comfortable. Low chairs and even lower tables is impractical, if perhaps stylish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted August 10, 2022 #19 Share Posted August 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, D C said: Michael's Club looks more comfortable. Low chairs and even lower tables is impractical, if perhaps stylish. My comments from long ago on the Hoppen retreat furniture: If it requires extreme gymnastics or another's assistance for a person to extract themselves from a couch or chair, somebody missed the mark on the demographic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCPIV Posted August 10, 2022 #20 Share Posted August 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, canderson said: If it requires extreme gymnastics or another's assistance for a person to extract themselves from a couch or chair, somebody missed the mark on the demographic. Indeed. Kelly Hoppen seems to be a bit too much a disciple of Fernando Llamas, i.e., "it is better to look good than to feel good." On 8/6/2022 at 11:37 AM, jelayne said: The absolute best thing in there is the bartender Cranston. Cranston is the Manston! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimiq Posted August 13, 2022 #21 Share Posted August 13, 2022 We are also looking into booking this cruise for Thanksgiving and hope the actually revolutionize the buffet area first. In the end as long as the ship is clean and well maintained we should be fine. Same here love the Edge class and scared to go back to older ship not revolutionize. sea ya Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted August 13, 2022 #22 Share Posted August 13, 2022 9 hours ago, nimiq said: We are also looking into booking this cruise for Thanksgiving and hope the actually revolutionize the buffet area first. In the end as long as the ship is clean and well maintained we should be fine. Same here love the Edge class and scared to go back to older ship not revolutionize. sea ya Eric The buffet is fine on the Reflection. Honestly the only place I would have liked to see updated is Michael's Club/the Retreat Lounge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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