s2kskibum Posted December 7, 2022 #1 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) Welcome to grown up Cozumel. Edited December 7, 2022 by s2kskibum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohninDC Posted December 7, 2022 #2 Share Posted December 7, 2022 News source? More details? Tourist involvement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2kskibum Posted December 7, 2022 Author #3 Share Posted December 7, 2022 1 hour ago, JohninDC said: News source? More details? Tourist involvement? No tourists involved, most likely cartel related. https://alertacozumel.com/?p=18161&fbclid=IwAR0NnltE4NoofYfSNn06vZAqqMQoj66vNph_bJtqTJUMvpt8jGVGLgxdoPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2kskibum Posted December 14, 2022 Author #4 Share Posted December 14, 2022 # 14 last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2kskibum Posted December 15, 2022 Author #5 Share Posted December 15, 2022 #15 https://riviera-maya-news.com/former-cozumel-city-official-shot-dead-in-island-street/2022.html?fbclid=IwAR1D4yokNcLQdI-NubbBd3PFipaHIvFRNnGYE-WYUW1icX0uwcpEAVsvp38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifes-a-beach Posted December 16, 2022 #6 Share Posted December 16, 2022 They’re murders just like we have in the U.S. In fact, over 600 so far this year in Chicago. And about 300 in Houston. Don’t go places you have no business going, and don’t do things you have no business doing, and most places are remarkably safe. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifes-a-beach Posted December 17, 2022 #7 Share Posted December 17, 2022 I respectfully disagree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nascarcruiser Posted December 18, 2022 #8 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Trust me with as much money the Cartel likely makes off cruises and tourism in general, tourist would not purposely be a target. Politicians yes but tourists highly doubtful. We spend 3 weeks there every January and have friends who stay 3 months. We watch where we go and stay aware of our surroundings and have never felt fearful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_water Posted December 18, 2022 #9 Share Posted December 18, 2022 (edited) Actually the majority of cartel-related business is in the tourist zones and not on back streets or in local neighborhoods. So tourists are at risk when caught-up in these events. You can be very aware of your surroundings and frequent only “safe” areas and be caught up in these violent activities. This and another recent murder on the island was an assassination rather than a hit on a business. But the day-day activities of fighting other cartels and punishing business owners take place mostly in the tourist zones where the $$ is made. We spend several months each year at our home outside Playa and have followed several assassinations (one real estate agent killed in front of his daughter down the street from our community), tourists injured in cartel-related shootings on 5th Ave, bullets sprayed from Uzi’s on the beach at a nearby “safe” resort…Not to mention the tourists killed in Tulum the last couple years. Cartel-related violence has been much more evident on Coz the past year or so unfortunately… Welcome to the club! We’ve enjoyed this area for 20+ years. But between the resurgence of cartel-related violenve along the Riviera Maya, and the unsustainable growth of traffic and new resorts, we just sold and will be traveling to safer areas of the Caribbean. Edited December 19, 2022 by blue_water Typo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2kskibum Posted December 22, 2022 Author #10 Share Posted December 22, 2022 On 12/16/2022 at 9:46 PM, lifes-a-beach said: I respectfully disagree with you. Live here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_water Posted December 23, 2022 #11 Share Posted December 23, 2022 On 12/21/2022 at 10:25 PM, s2kskibum said: Live here. We can’t dispute the facts, but we can disagree on other things. Cozumel is experiencing more cartel-related activity than ever, several long-time residents there we know are very disappointed, to say the least that the climate is resembling the problem areas along the RM. There is no safe place to be when cartel groups fight over a business, or punish a business owner and you are a patron or passer-by… in what way do you respectfully disagree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_water Posted December 24, 2022 #12 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Actually with that title this thread belongs on the TA Coz forum or elsewhere rather than here… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2kskibum Posted December 29, 2022 Author #13 Share Posted December 29, 2022 On 12/23/2022 at 10:39 AM, blue_water said: We can’t dispute the facts, but we can disagree on other things. Cozumel is experiencing more cartel-related activity than ever, several long-time residents there we know are very disappointed, to say the least that the climate is resembling the problem areas along the RM. There is no safe place to be when cartel groups fight over a business, or punish a business owner and you are a patron or passer-by… in what way do you respectfully disagree? I "don't respectfully disagree." That was someone who doesn't live on the island. Hey, no deaths in the past couple of days! YAY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_water Posted December 29, 2022 #14 Share Posted December 29, 2022 12 hours ago, s2kskibum said: I "don't respectfully disagree." That was someone who doesn't live on the island. Hey, no deaths in the past couple of days! YAY! Aah, yes - sorry. Great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifes-a-beach Posted December 29, 2022 #15 Share Posted December 29, 2022 It was me who respectfully disagreed with the post that has now been removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_water Posted December 30, 2022 #16 Share Posted December 30, 2022 16 hours ago, lifes-a-beach said: It was me who respectfully disagreed with the post that has now been removed. Gotchya…confusing when posts are removed… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-leg5 Posted December 30, 2022 #17 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, lifes-a-beach said: It was me who respectfully disagreed with the post that has now been removed. 4 hours ago, blue_water said: Gotchya…confusing when posts are removed… Doesn’t help when post you are referring to isn’t quoted and therefore has some context. In which case your reply would also have been deleted and not left hanging. Edited December 30, 2022 by c-leg5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCmommy Posted January 15, 2023 #18 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Well, this thread is unsettling..😕. In Cozumel in a week’s time and unsure what to do. Is there a “safer” area we should stick to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_water Posted January 15, 2023 #19 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, RCmommy said: Well, this thread is unsettling..😕. In Cozumel in a week’s time and unsure what to do. Is there a “safer” area we should stick to? I think you will be fine in the typical tourist areas. Yes, cartel activity has been more visible on Coz, at least from my following the news from Playa, but that was inevitable since the cartels follow the $$$$, and Coz is a very busy place. As most folks suggest, just use common sense wherever you are traveling. The odds of being involved in a shooting incident are very slim indeed… Public shootings between cartel groups vying for a business, cartel shootings at businesses punishing owners for not falling in line, and mass decapitations have been occurring along the Riviera Maya from Cancun to Tulum, and are just a way of life here. Some will tell you that tourists are not affected because these events are occurring in neighborhoods outside the tourist areas. But that is obviously incorrect - the cartels’ activity is centered in the tourist areas where the $$$$ is. Tourists have had to flee gunfire on beaches and in restaurants and bars, and well-known professional people have been assassinated in public places in broad daylight. But again that is happening primarily in the RM, and thousands of tourists flock here everyday…Just follow the local news outlets here for the current situation, and you may want to follow the TripAdvisor Coz forum for more current feedback from residents and frequent visitors if you are overly concerned… Edited January 15, 2023 by blue_water Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare crewsweeper Posted January 15, 2023 #20 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Here's the questions cruise visitors need to ask: 1) Were any of these homicides tourist? 2) Did they occur in tourist areas/resorts? 3) Did they occur during daylight hours? If the answer is NO, then, outside of being ever vigilant, as you should be where ever you go, you should have no concerns. 13 homicides is probably a weekend's worth in Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_water Posted January 15, 2023 #21 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Yes from our perspective, and the perspective of friends living there, it’s like Coz is on the cusp of joining Cancun, Playa, and Tulum (which has seen a sharp rise in cartel activities, again following the $$$$) as cartel hotspots. But if you follow the forum I mentioned it is definitely not THE topic of discussion as in the other areas. So yes, knowledge is power, but understand although the cartels are indeed active, their targets are businesses and politicians and others who oppose them. There are thousands of other day visitors on the island each day who do not have that knowledge… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCmommy Posted January 15, 2023 #22 Share Posted January 15, 2023 We will stay aware. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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