Rare OneSixtyToOne Posted February 7, 2023 Author #101 Share Posted February 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Delhi Ocean Cruiser said: Sorry I didn’t get to this until today, Feb 7. Yes the free day shifted to Monday. And when we arrived Delphi had moved to Saturday because of weather. It’s been cold a snowy in Athens. I’m glad Delphi moved—it was a beautiful day, though cool to cold. I know shifting is bothersome. But I appreciate the company looking to give the best experience for guests. On board the Sky now. Will miss our terrific host, Andreas, and guide Paris. A super team. Looking forward to the cruise portion. Glad you had a great day at Delphi. It’s truly an incredible site. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springtravel Posted February 7, 2023 #102 Share Posted February 7, 2023 I so enjoyed your journey and photos. Great insight on what to expect on our upcoming trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OneSixtyToOne Posted February 8, 2023 Author #103 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) Another post script… Here are the videos of the silk spinning demonstration in Turkey. FullSizeRender.MOV IMG_9868.MOV And yes, we bought a rug. Edited February 8, 2023 by OneSixtyToOne 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTRaveller Posted February 9, 2023 #104 Share Posted February 9, 2023 11 hours ago, OneSixtyToOne said: Another post script… Here are the videos of the silk spinning demonstration in Turkey. FullSizeRender.MOV 142.14 MB · 2 downloads IMG_9868.MOV 88.33 MB · 1 download And yes, we bought a rug. So interesting to see this silk weaving. Here's a few pictures from a silk weaving enterprise in Cambodia if I can figure out how to upload. I was there on a Road Scholar trip in December. We saw the whole process from moths mating to tiny caterpillars emerging, then pupating and making their cocoons. It was much more basic a setting but stunning silk scarves and other clothing came from it -- no rugs! That natural gold color is a specialty -- just the kind of moth, I guess! We were rafted with the Viking Mekong one day -- far more elegant but much less intimate than our 18 passenger experience with Road Scholar. We had to go up about 4 flights of stairs to get from our little boat through the Viking ship to the street! IMG_9032.MOV 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OneSixtyToOne Posted February 9, 2023 Author #105 Share Posted February 9, 2023 7 hours ago, KTRaveller said: That natural gold color is a specialty -- just the kind of moth, I guess! In Turkey I learned that silk won’t take a natural dye. If it’s real silk and it has any color other than the cocoon, a chemical dye has been used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fountainpen Posted February 9, 2023 #106 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, OneSixtyToOne said: In Turkey I learned that silk won’t take a natural dye. If it’s real silk and it has any color other than the cocoon, a chemical dye has been used. https://www.advantour.com/silkroad/dyeing-of-silk-fabrics.htm The main natural red dye in ancient China was the substance received from madder root. By the end of Han epoch Chinese also used safflower to obtain red fabrics. It came to China as a result of contacts with the West. Jinzi fruits were used for getting yellow color; ochre – for dark red, mineral dye baionma or xuanjun were needed for white. By the Qing Dynasty (1616-1912), there were more than ten kinds of dyes used to dye textiles. The most frequently used dyes were safflower, sappanwood, bud of pagoda tree, amur cork, turmeric, indigo, gallnut and top of oak tree fruit. Among them, pagoda tree and amur cork are special East Asian plant dyestuffs. Edited February 9, 2023 by fountainpen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OneSixtyToOne Posted February 9, 2023 Author #107 Share Posted February 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, fountainpen said: https://www.advantour.com/silkroad/dyeing-of-silk-fabrics.htm The main natural red dye in ancient China was the substance received from madder root. By the end of Han epoch Chinese also used safflower to obtain red fabrics. It came to China as a result of contacts with the West. Jinzi fruits were used for getting yellow color; ochre – for dark red, mineral dye baionma or xuanjun were needed for white. By the Qing Dynasty (1616-1912), there were more than ten kinds of dyes used to dye textiles. The most frequently used dyes were safflower, sappanwood, bud of pagoda tree, amur cork, turmeric, indigo, gallnut and top of oak tree fruit. Among them, pagoda tree and amur cork are special East Asian plant dyestuffs. Silk has low colorfastness, so while it can be dyed with natural colors, it will fade fast. That's why chemical dyes are used. https://www.hunterlab.com/blog/improving-colorfastness-in-silk-products-via-spectrophotometric-color-measurement/#:~:text=However%2C silk is also one,and has notoriously low colorfastness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTRaveller Posted February 15, 2023 #108 Share Posted February 15, 2023 On 2/9/2023 at 5:34 AM, OneSixtyToOne said: In Turkey I learned that silk won’t take a natural dye. If it’s real silk and it has any color other than the cocoon, a chemical dye has been used. That's why these gold colored cocoons were so special -- and I was seeing the thread come right off the cocoons. I don't know how long the color would last though -- even whether it was considered desirable but to me it looked like Rapunzel spinning gold! It was hard to capture in a photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTRaveller Posted February 15, 2023 #109 Share Posted February 15, 2023 On 2/9/2023 at 7:14 AM, fountainpen said: https://www.advantour.com/silkroad/dyeing-of-silk-fabrics.htm The main natural red dye in ancient China was the substance received from madder root. By the end of Han epoch Chinese also used safflower to obtain red fabrics. It came to China as a result of contacts with the West. Jinzi fruits were used for getting yellow color; ochre – for dark red, mineral dye baionma or xuanjun were needed for white. By the Qing Dynasty (1616-1912), there were more than ten kinds of dyes used to dye textiles. The most frequently used dyes were safflower, sappanwood, bud of pagoda tree, amur cork, turmeric, indigo, gallnut and top of oak tree fruit. Among them, pagoda tree and amur cork are special East Asian plant dyestuffs. thanks for the information - this has been a fun thread (pun intended!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OneSixtyToOne Posted March 16, 2023 Author #110 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Our rugs arrived today from Turkey. 😍 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Sleep7 Posted March 16, 2023 #111 Share Posted March 16, 2023 56 minutes ago, OneSixtyToOne said: Our rugs arrived today from Turkey. 😍 Oh my!! Those are GORGEOUS! What a great purchase!!😍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobson1754 Posted March 17, 2023 #112 Share Posted March 17, 2023 10 hours ago, OneSixtyToOne said: Our rugs arrived today from Turkey. 😍 They’re gorgeous - colours would have been my choice - they look so rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheJourney Posted March 17, 2023 #113 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Can't get any of the videos to play. Never have been here on CC. The little spinny icon just spins and spins...but video never starts. Guess the threads are all gone....😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OneSixtyToOne Posted March 17, 2023 Author #114 Share Posted March 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, OnTheJourney said: Can't get any of the videos to play. Never have been here on CC. The little spinny icon just spins and spins...but video never starts. Guess the threads are all gone....😆 They work for me. They are in the .MOV format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheJourney Posted March 23, 2023 #115 Share Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/17/2023 at 2:52 PM, OneSixtyToOne said: They work for me. They are in the .MOV format. Huh...doesn't seem to matter. Our Verizon internet is often so crappy though as to frequent interruptions, stalls, etc. during vidoes or streaming, etc. so that's probably why. I'm probably not waiting long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreMare Posted March 24, 2023 #116 Share Posted March 24, 2023 On 1/12/2023 at 6:59 PM, OneSixtyToOne said: Just boarded. Lufthansa is using face recognition for boarding. No more scanning boarding passes. Just stand in front of the camera and wait for the green light. Wow. When did you give them the source photograph they use for compare? At desk checkin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OneSixtyToOne Posted March 24, 2023 Author #117 Share Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, SempreMare said: Wow. When did you give them the source photograph they use for compare? At desk checkin? They scan your passport at check-in. It appears to be an LAX thing. Edited March 24, 2023 by OneSixtyToOne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TayanaLorna Posted April 27, 2023 #118 Share Posted April 27, 2023 I just read through your entire large post with all the fantastic photos. Our Feb. 2024 cruise is a different itinerary but includes Rome, Naples, Sicily and Athens. We live in a tropical climate and your weather discussion gave us an idea of what to pack. The lack of crowds is a fair trade off for colder weather I think. Have a question - was your Taormina excursion the Taormina On Your Own or the guided Taormina one? Thanks and happy cruising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OneSixtyToOne Posted April 27, 2023 Author #119 Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 hours ago, TayanaLorna said: I just read through your entire large post with all the fantastic photos. Our Feb. 2024 cruise is a different itinerary but includes Rome, Naples, Sicily and Athens. We live in a tropical climate and your weather discussion gave us an idea of what to pack. The lack of crowds is a fair trade off for colder weather I think. Have a question - was your Taormina excursion the Taormina On Your Own or the guided Taormina one? Thanks and happy cruising. It was the optional Viking excursion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kctwinmommy Posted June 14, 2023 #120 Share Posted June 14, 2023 On 1/13/2023 at 6:56 AM, OneSixtyToOne said: Munich is a great airport. No crowds and we cleared passport control in less than 3 minutes. Much easier than connecting thru Frankfort. Good to know! As I look at flights, I'm checking where the connections are. Having never flown through any of these cities as connecting flights (nor into any of them in about 30 years), not sure which is our best option. I'm actually trying to do a connection through NYC if I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kctwinmommy Posted June 15, 2023 #121 Share Posted June 15, 2023 Some great bits of info in here, wonderful post!! We'll be in some of these ports next year, so good pictures and info to go along. We're still stuck on deciding between Pompeii and Herculaneum! I've always wanted to see Pompeii, but I hear that Herculaneum is actually better in many ways. I was thinking of looking for a private company that might be able to take us to both. We'll see though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OneSixtyToOne Posted June 15, 2023 Author #122 Share Posted June 15, 2023 4 hours ago, kctwinmommy said: We're still stuck on deciding between Pompeii and Herculaneum! ICYMI here is my posting for Herculaneum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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