sidari Posted April 4, 2023 Author #151 Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Nunagoras said: The WE works differently. They have no "grand atrium", instead they have what seems such a shopping mall promenade with shops, restaurants, bars and the likes. The calming piano bar seems to be Raj Polo, the tea house (I don't know how that would work here in Europe)... Badly compared the WE seems like a pizza place at Starbucks!... Some of the concepts are great... But the general feeling of the ship seems a clear departure from the whole brand's identity. MSC has never had a so big differentiation on their ship's identity, apart the atrium's use for rock bands on some Seaside class vessels, especially if they sail from the US, hence me to be on the fence regarding the actual full ship's concept success here in Europe. It will be a success the day they can put one of those in the US, on that I've no doubts!... Oh; and believe me: If I could to do a cruise this year, it would no doubt to be the WE!... Copying oasis class but sadly second best, instead of doing their own thing as before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted April 4, 2023 Author #152 Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Nunagoras said: The WE works differently. They have no "grand atrium", instead they have what seems such a shopping mall promenade with shops, restaurants, bars and the likes. The calming piano bar seems to be Raj Polo, the tea house (I don't know how that would work here in Europe)... Badly compared the WE seems like a pizza place at Starbucks!... Some of the concepts are great... But the general feeling of the ship seems a clear departure from the whole brand's identity. MSC has never had a so big differentiation on their ship's identity, apart the atrium's use for rock bands on some Seaside class vessels, especially if they sail from the US, hence me to be on the fence regarding the actual full ship's concept success here in Europe. It will be a success the day they can put one of those in the US, on that I've no doubts!... Oh; and believe me: If I could to do a cruise this year, it would no doubt to be the WE!... Copying oasis class but sadly second best, instead of doing their own thing as before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted April 4, 2023 #153 Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 hour ago, ConnieTact said: Great! We’re there in June so I’ll make sure Mr CT gets a pint! 👍 👍 So, tonight was ‘Tropical’ night. I don’t remember it being a theme, before, but there were quite a few in colourful garb, We went to Guest Services to ask if we would receive a rebate for today’s unused portion of the Premium drinks package due to being stuck in this … place. Just received the following in our cabin I’ve checked our onboard account and we have, indeed, received €80 OBC. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted April 4, 2023 #154 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Bye bye Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. 🎉 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunagoras Posted April 5, 2023 #155 Share Posted April 5, 2023 14 hours ago, sidari said: Copying oasis class but sadly second best, instead of doing their own thing as before. I don't believe so. Entirely different concepts! In paper this ship would to be a great concept, despite being a huge departure from MSC's identity. RCI uses to change the ship's identity by ships classes, and that facilitates them to have a new identity each time they launch a new class. So; now MSC has a single identity that runs all of their ships other than for a partial use of the atrium in some ships that sail a particular region... That means that when booking an MSC cruise the clientele mostly knows what may be going at each one's place on the full fleet. Not anymore with the WE! WE is incredibly a wonderful ship, made of barely the Oasis class prototype hence the similarities, but it corrects some of Oasis failures: They've a 2 decks buffet, the aqua theater is replaced with an enclosed lounge, there is no central park garden paving the way for a better organized full inside, the inside and outside promenades are directly linked paving the way for better crowd control and so on! The decoration is distinctively MSC focused. What I don't like is their fail on being attentive to the trademark details: No bar by deck 5 MDR's entrance with the grand piano. The piano bar was relegated to a tea house (would work well on the US or Southampton based cruises, sadly not so much on the Med); no free food by the outside promenade on deck 8, and I could go on. I hope they have something more akin to their identity lines for World III and IV, even though I also believe that some of the new features for young family cruising are the future of cruising! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted April 5, 2023 #156 Share Posted April 5, 2023 So, purely for research purposes, you understand (and to clarify for those sceptics amongst you) I have ordered an alcoholic beverage (an MSC signature cocktail, Skyfall) not included in Premium Extra, to test the rumours swirling that MSC, in their wisdom, really have introduced the ‘Pay the difference’ policy. I have been assured that will be the case. I will check my onboard account later and report back. Now that I have it in front of me, I distinctly remember having this in Venchi on Seashore and disliking it intensely. The things I endure in the name of research for this site. 🤣🤣 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted April 5, 2023 #157 Share Posted April 5, 2023 A couple of things to report (before my battery dies). La Dolce Vita, the main lounge in the Galleria, is really small. Seems they didn’t learn anything from Mera class. Don’t know if this photo quite captures it The area outside, with tables on either side of the Galleria, is very popular and tables are always occupied. Can’t see the attraction, myself All of the wine bottles on display in the windows of one of the MDRs (the Hexagon?) were removed while we were in that … place, Jeddah. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted April 5, 2023 #158 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Oh - another thing. We’ve heard several complaints from other guests about Butchers Cut. So we weren’t the only ones unimpressed with the venue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted April 5, 2023 Author #159 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Why not just cover the bottles up? Everything the hard way with MSC. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted April 5, 2023 #160 Share Posted April 5, 2023 So, Diamond ‘party’ at 5.15pm. We know the cruise director from another sailing so we will go just to say hi. From what we were told by our room steward ( you may remember the dearth of robes early on due to Diamond and Aurea numbers) it may be a very well-attended event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted April 5, 2023 #161 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Drumroll, please …… paid a total of €1.15 for my Skyfall (which I’m beginning to take a liking to 😁) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBrowny Posted April 5, 2023 #162 Share Posted April 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Beamafar said: Drumroll, please …… paid a total of €1.15 for my Skyfall (which I’m beginning to take a liking to 😁) I just think you're happy you can have alcohol again haha!😏 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted April 5, 2023 #163 Share Posted April 5, 2023 The waiter here has informed me that there will be other liquor items added to Premium Extra when the ship begins its Med season. Hopefully we will see early confirmation of this. I, personally, will follow the subject with interest for our Musica sailing in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted April 5, 2023 #164 Share Posted April 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, RBrowny said: I just think you're happy you can have alcohol again haha!😏 Had no problem having alcohol yesterday. Didn’t you see our stocked mini-bar - several beers and 2 bottles of Prosecco? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBrowny Posted April 5, 2023 #165 Share Posted April 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Beamafar said: Had no problem having alcohol yesterday. Didn’t you see our stocked mini-bar - several beers and 2 bottles of Prosecco? I did indeed, I just thought that wouldn't last you the whole day/night 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted April 5, 2023 #166 Share Posted April 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, RBrowny said: I did indeed, I just thought that wouldn't last you the whole day/night 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted April 5, 2023 #167 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Just a thought - it would be handy if MSC could put a couple of USB chargers in their lounges (only cos I never charged my phone last night. 😂😂) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAGR Posted April 5, 2023 #168 Share Posted April 5, 2023 19 hours ago, Beamafar said: Thank you for following along. Actually, it’s an old expression that Guinness didn’t travel well. These days, things have changed. Also, there’s an art to pulling a good pint and, until recent years, it wasn’t served correctly in foreign pubs, but that, too, has changed. Mr B reckons the very best place to get a good pint in Dublin is in Dublin airport! Actually, last time we were at 51st and Green, I had the worst pint ever! Best was at the top of the Guinness Store. We were given passes to go again this summer. A booze tour, with passes to Jameson, Bushmills, and Tullamore D.E.W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted April 5, 2023 #169 Share Posted April 5, 2023 40 minutes ago, JAGR said: Actually, last time we were at 51st and Green, I had the worst pint ever! Best was at the top of the Guinness Store. We were given passes to go again this summer. A booze tour, with passes to Jameson, Bushmills, and Tullamore D.E.W. Interesting (about the airport - Mr B hasn’t ever had a complaint. Maybe it’s cos he’s usually having one at 5 in the morning. 🤣 If the hopstore doesn’t serve the very best pint, there really is something wrong!!! We get passes every year to visit. Reckon it’s best to leave it to the tourists. 😆😆😆 The first Mr B worked for Irish Distillers (seeing a pattern here, anyone 😳) and they used to arrange fantastic weekends away to distilleries - including Bushmills, Middleton and, the smallest distillery in Scotland (can’t remember the name). Dem were the days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare L1211 Posted April 5, 2023 #170 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Thank you so much for taking us along! Enjoy your sense of humor!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phissy Posted April 5, 2023 #171 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Bea, I also want to thank you for this wonderful travel log. It really feels like we are “onboard” with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted April 5, 2023 #172 Share Posted April 5, 2023 We’re at the very civilised timed Diamond event. The captain, hotel director, as well as the cruise director, are all in attendance. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted April 5, 2023 #173 Share Posted April 5, 2023 I don’t believe it - Lur…pak (wish I could use the expletive that comes to mind). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted April 5, 2023 #174 Share Posted April 5, 2023 It’s buttergate time again, folks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Beamafar Posted April 5, 2023 #175 Share Posted April 5, 2023 1 hour ago, L1211 said: Thank you so much for taking us along! Enjoy your sense of humor!! Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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