Nieuw Amsterdam VS Carnival Sunshine at 70 Knots

[Stateroom_Sailor]

I'm certainly glad NA is built stronger, or better maintained, than the Carnival Sunshine.  This would have been terrible in the middle of the Pacific 2.5 weeks ago.

 

 

 

[CruiserBruce]

I don't know we have enough knowledge of what happened to say one is built better or stronger or anything like that, based on a 30 second video.

[Stateroom_Sailor]

47 minutes ago, CruiserBruce said:

I don't know we have enough knowledge of what happened to say one is built better or stronger or anything like that, based on a 30 second video.

 

There are numerous articles on the Carnival Sunshine.  Nieuw Amsterdam faced the same wind speeds outside Kodiak Island.

 

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-carnival-sunshine-cruise-storm-flooding-passengers-terrified-20230530-tcv5crf6brhzdm64vnomvi4ebu-story.html

[CruiserBruce]

I am going to speculate that winds AND seas may not have been the same. We have sailed through 70+ mph at least once (I think twice, but memory is fading) and slept right through them. 

[Heartgrove]

Sorry but the Viking Sky incident in 2019 was far worse. It lost propulsion with about one half of the passengers airlifted by helicopter hoist. Think of a cork on rough water. It still sails today, and we were aboard the Viking Sky in 2021 for a cruise without a qualm.

 

This photo is similar to what I use to be subjected to while in the USCG - and we had to be out there. Also why I don't sail in an aft-facing stateroom.

 

 

 

Edited May 30, 2023 by Heartgrove

[Heartgrove]

Actually Canival Sunshine (former Carnival Destiny), HAL Nieuw Amsterdam, and Viking Sky were all built by the same builder, Fincantieri S.p.A. So all should have been originally designed with similar sea-keeping capabilities.

 

As an interesting aside, the fifth Vista-class ship was to be the Cunard Queen Victoria but was instead completed as the P&O Astoria. A new hull that became the Queen Victoria was built with a strengthened bow for transatlantic crossings so in theory should be better sailing in storms.

 

[Stateroom_Sailor]

1 hour ago, Heartgrove said:

Actually Canival Sunshine (former Carnival Destiny), HAL Nieuw Amsterdam, and Viking Sky were all built by the same builder, Fincantieri S.p.A. So all should have been originally designed with similar sea-keeping capabilities.

 

I would take Carnival's maintenance into consideration.  Onboard Carnival Pride in 2017, our veranda door handle fell off.  It had been drilled back in so many times, there was no solid surface vertically or horizontally in the door.  The maintenance guy had to start the first vertical attachment.   Stabilizer issues, a gangway down, mold in the vent, yellow water, and we missed an engine room fire by only a few days.

[ski ww]

I think that no matter what ship you were on in that kind of weather it would of been bad.