Manhattan Cruise Terminal and Oceania Air (will this be awful?)

[njhorseman]

3 hours ago, Redtravel said:

  Keep in mind, that Oceania air guarantees gettting you to the ship.

 

1 hour ago, Snaefell3 said:

also "guaranteed to get us on the ship". 

No, Oceania air does not guarantee getting you to the ship. There may be legal reasons such as cabotage laws where you may not be allowed to board the ship at a down line port. See the sentences highlighted in bold below.

https://www.oceaniacruises.com/legal/terms-conditions

 

Air Transportation

Oceania Cruises, as an added service to our Guests, offers arrangements for air travel in conjunction with a cruise. Air arrangements, including routings, are at Oceania Cruises' (or its agents') discretion, and are based on flight availability and agreements with airlines. Special requests, including class of service upgrades, specific carriers and routing, are at the discretion of Oceania Cruises. Occasionally, due to scheduling conflicts, an enroute overnight might be necessary. Costs associated with an overnight stay are at the Guest's expense. Upgrades apply to intercontinental flights only. Air allowance is subject to prevailing rates at time of change. In making these arrangements, Oceania Cruises acts only as an agent on the Guest's behalf, and does not operate, control, or supervise any airlines and is not responsible for carriers failing to meet schedules. Air tickets are refundable to Oceania Cruises only and considered a part of the total cruise tour fare. Any airline-imposed fees that result from changes to or cancellation of air arrangements are the sole responsibility of the Guest. Due to government regulations, if you are delayed or unable to board at embarkation, you may not be able to board at a later time. In such event, Carrier shall have no liability to refund any cruise or cruise tour fares.

[Snaefell3]

1 hour ago, njhorseman said:

No, Oceania air does not guarantee getting you to the ship. There may be legal reasons such as cabotage laws where you may not be allowed to board the ship at a down line port.

Good point.  I was over-generalizing:  (MIA)→Ponta Delgata→Roterdam→... wasn't going to fall afoul of the PVSA, but you are quite correct.  I was fixated on "join the ship on Day 6".

[SATaxman]

We were on Regent last August to Alaska from Vancouver. Anyone who missed the embarkation, missed the cruise. Something about Canada/ USA. Friends did not make the cruise at all.

 

[LHT28]

7 minutes ago, SATaxman said:

We were on Regent last August to Alaska from Vancouver. Anyone who missed the embarkation, missed the cruise. Something about Canada/ USA. Friends did not make the cruise at all.

 

PVSA  maybe

[njhorseman]

2 hours ago, Snaefell3 said:

Good point.  I was over-generalizing:  (MIA)→Ponta Delgata→Roterdam→... wasn't going to fall afoul of the PVSA, but you are quite correct.  I was fixated on "join the ship on Day 6".

 

1 hour ago, LHT28 said:

PVSA  maybe

It's not just the USA's PVSA. Other countries have cabotage laws. For example, Canada has the Coasting Trade Act, and the EU has cabotage regulations.

[LouChamp]

Aloha. Having been born and raised in Manhattan I have been blessed to sail from NY since the 70s.  Several points to keep in mind in no particular order. The day of the week is important. La Guardia has recently undergone a major rehab for the better which will make arrival and departure easier. Because of its short runways foul weather even a little rain can cause delays.  Additionally if you are sailing during the summer and on a Saturday or Sunday there are street fairs and major parades every weekend which makes driving crosstown a headache. You enter Manhattan on the east side and the pier is on the extreme west side so even during the week there is traffic headaches.  The pier is also generally chaotic even on a perfect day.  I think the flight times you mentioned are a positive because anything can and will happen. Customs also creates headaches and it also depends on how many ships are docked.  The NY area now has three cruise terminals one in NJ, NY and Brooklyn which has been a positive and I have left from all three.  With all the above and some aspirin there is nothing more beautiful than leaving and arriving in NY except in my opinion Venice.  So seriously be mentally ready arriving and departing, have a positive attitude, smile a lot and enjoy Bermuda. We love it both by ship and air.  Keep us posted and have a wonderful time!

[LouChamp]

Aloha. Having been born and raised in Manhattan I have been blessed to sail from NY since the 70s.  Several points to keep in mind in no particular order. The day of the week is important. La Guardia has recently undergone a major rehab for the better which will make arrival and departure easier. Because of its short runways foul weather even a little rain can cause delays.  Additionally if you are sailing during the summer and on a Saturday or Sunday there are street fairs and major parades every weekend which makes driving crosstown a headache. You enter Manhattan on the east side and the pier is on the extreme west side so even during the week there is traffic headaches.  The pier is also generally chaotic even on a perfect day.  I think the flight times you mentioned are a positive because anything can and will happen. Customs also creates headaches and it also depends on how many ships are docked.  The NY area now has three cruise terminals one in NJ, NY and Brooklyn which has been a positive and I have left from all three.  With all the above and some aspirin there is nothing more beautiful than leaving and arriving in NY except in my opinion Venice.  So seriously be mentally ready arriving and departing, have a positive attitude, smile a lot and enjoy Bermuda. We love it both by ship and air.  Keep us posted and have a wonderful time!

[LouChamp]

Aloha. Having been born and raised in Manhattan I have been blessed to sail from NY since the 70s.  Several points to keep in mind in no particular order. The day of the week is important. La Guardia has recently undergone a major rehab for the better which will make arrival and departure easier. Because of its short runways foul weather even a little rain can cause delays.  Additionally if you are sailing during the summer and on a Saturday or Sunday there are street fairs and major parades every weekend which makes driving crosstown a headache. You enter Manhattan on the east side and the pier is on the extreme west side so even during the week there is traffic headaches.  The pier is also generally chaotic even on a perfect day.  I think the flight times you mentioned are a positive because anything can and will happen. Customs also creates headaches and it also depends on how many ships are docked.  The NY area now has three cruise terminals one in NJ, NY and Brooklyn which has been a positive and I have left from all three.  With all the above and some aspirin there is nothing more beautiful than leaving and arriving in NY except in my opinion Venice.  So seriously be mentally ready arriving and departing, have a positive attitude, smile a lot and enjoy Bermuda. We love it both by ship and air.  Keep us posted and have a wonderful time!