Don_In_AZ Posted November 25, 2023 #1 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) She will obviously be the largest cruise ship ever built but according to Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_ships_by_gross_tonnage she will be the 2nd largest vessel (of any kind) afloat. Only the massive crane ship Pioneering Spirit will be larger at a whpping 403,000 tons. Icon of the Seas will also be the 8th largest ship ever built according to this list. But since the 2nd - 7th largest ships on the list are listed as scrapped, that leaves her holding the #2 spot among active vessels. Edited November 25, 2023 by Don_In_AZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted November 25, 2023 #2 Share Posted November 25, 2023 And that's kind of unfair since Pioneering Spirit is essentially two ships connected together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 25, 2023 #3 Share Posted November 25, 2023 No, it will be the largest cruise ship in the world. Gross tonnage is but one measure of size. Deadweight tonnage (or how much weight the ship can lift or carry is a far more important measure of size, for the other 95% of the maritime world. Remember, the Icon class ships only weigh (displacement) about 100,000 tons. The TI class of tankers (4 tankers built since 2002) can carry 4 Icon class ships. The Valemax class of bulkers (68 ships built since 2011) can carry 3-4 Icon class ships Six more bulkers, all built since 2007, can carry 3 Icon class ships 37 container ships, all built since 2016, can carry 1.5 to 2 Icon class ships 14 LNG carriers, all built since 2014, can carry an Icon class ship And, the Pioneering Spirit can lift or carry over 4 Icon class ships So, in terms of deadweight tonnage, Icon doesn't even make the top 100. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 25, 2023 #4 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) Not sure what your point is? Further to my point, the Pioneering Spirit could lift Icon up and put it on any of the ships I listed, and they wouldn't sink, while if it lifted any of those ships onto Icon, it would sink. Edited November 25, 2023 by chengkp75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted November 25, 2023 #5 Share Posted November 25, 2023 I would also look at length, beam and draft and from that perspective all large Container ships are significantly bigger than Icon with more than 1,300 ft length, 200 ft beam and 50 ft draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted November 25, 2023 #6 Share Posted November 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Don_In_AZ said: She will obviously be the largest cruise ship ever built but according to Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_ships_by_gross_tonnage she will be the 2nd largest vessel (of any kind) afloat. Only the massive crane ship Pioneering Spirit will be larger at a whpping 403,000 tons. Icon of the Seas will also be the 8th largest ship ever built according to this list. But since the 2nd - 7th largest ships on the list are listed as scrapped, that leaves her holding the #2 spot among active vessels. No, no, not even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_In_AZ Posted November 25, 2023 Author #7 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) I was only going by the referenced Wikipedia article. Edited November 25, 2023 by Don_In_AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 25, 2023 #8 Share Posted November 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Don_In_AZ said: I was only going by the referenced Wikipedia article. Like many wiki articles, it has glaring mistakes. It states that "gross tonnage" is a "1 to 1 function of the ship's internal volume". That is not correct. "Gross Registered Tonnage" (a measurement not used since the 1980's is a 1 to 1 function of the ship's internal volume (1 GRT equals 100 cubic feet). However, wiki's article on Gross Tonnage correctly identifies GT as "Gross tonnage (GT, G.T. or gt) is a nonlinear measure of a ship's overall internal volume." Gross Tonnage multiplies the volume of the ship by a multiplier, that increases logarithmically with volume. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFan33579 Posted November 26, 2023 #9 Share Posted November 26, 2023 7 hours ago, Don_In_AZ said: I was only going by the referenced Wikipedia article. Keep in mind Wikipedia is not a good source for ACCURATE information. Anyone can add to or edit an article on Wikipedia. While I think the articles on Wikipedia tend to be informative, I would never consider using Wikipedia as documentation to support anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFan33579 Posted November 26, 2023 #10 Share Posted November 26, 2023 11 hours ago, chengkp75 said: Not sure what your point is? Further to my point, the Pioneering Spirit could lift Icon up and put it on any of the ships I listed, and they wouldn't sink, while if it lifted any of those ships onto Icon, it would sink. Great information as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKid Posted November 27, 2023 #11 Share Posted November 27, 2023 The design and technology that goes into these floating cities is fascinating, but after dealing with the zoo on Allure we plan to stick to the smaller ships, no need for all the gimmicks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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