Kay S Posted July 15 #26 Share Posted July 15 6 minutes ago, Yesimapirate said: I think most people at country clubs and resorts wear shorts in this day and age. Not sure why some (not you Orv) are so against it on vacation. I live across the street from the country club. With temps above 100 F these days, I see many men with shorts heading onto the golf course. An attraction for us has been the relaxed dress codes on O. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted July 15 #27 Share Posted July 15 10 hours ago, goletans said: From O's website: Is there a dress code? Recommended onboard clothing is resort or country club casual. For evening dining, elegant casual resort wear is suggested. Oceania requests that jeans, shorts, t-shirts or tennis shoes not be worn at dinner. Shorts and other more relaxed clothing are perfectly acceptable for shore excursions, but be sure to check that there are no clothing restrictions for your time on land (some monasteries and other sites require head coverings or demure dress). That's like you can't carry on alcoholic beverages. Not enforced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted July 15 #28 Share Posted July 15 2 hours ago, Yesimapirate said: I think most people at country clubs and resorts wear shorts in this day and age. Not sure why some (not you Orv) are so against it on vacation. In a "nice" restaurant? Not I. And I have some really attractive shorts...that I wear at appropriate places. I've tried to describe it as what you wear to your grandmother's house for a special occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1985rz1 Posted July 15 #29 Share Posted July 15 3 hours ago, Kay S said: With temps above 100 F these days, I see many men with shorts heading onto the golf course. Do they then go to an upscale restaurant after golfing in those same sweaty shorts? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ORV Posted July 15 #30 Share Posted July 15 22 hours ago, goletans said: From O's website: Is there a dress code? Recommended onboard clothing is resort or country club casual. For evening dining, elegant casual resort wear is suggested. Oceania requests that jeans, shorts, t-shirts or tennis shoes not be worn at dinner. Shorts and other more relaxed clothing are perfectly acceptable for shore excursions, but be sure to check that there are no clothing restrictions for your time on land (some monasteries and other sites require head coverings or demure dress). Just for the record for those that didn't see it over the weekend. This is from a Travel Agency website and NOT Oceania's website. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Harters Posted July 15 #31 Share Posted July 15 18 minutes ago, ORV said: NOT Oceania's website And the relevant extract from O's website (which does, indeed, make mention of "casual" jeans). "Recommended on board clothing is resort or country club casual. For evening dining, elegant casual resort wear is suggested. We request that casual jeans, shorts, t-shirts, baseball caps, sandals, or tennis shoes not be worn in the restaurants after 6 PM. Baseball caps may be worn in the Terrace Café after 6 PM. https://oceaniacruises.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360005474533-Is-there-a-dress-code Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ORV Posted July 15 #32 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, Harters said: And the relevant extract from O's website (which does, indeed, make mention of "casual" jeans). "Recommended on board clothing is resort or country club casual. For evening dining, elegant casual resort wear is suggested. We request that casual jeans, shorts, t-shirts, baseball caps, sandals, or tennis shoes not be worn in the restaurants after 6 PM. Baseball caps may be worn in the Terrace Café after 6 PM. https://oceaniacruises.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360005474533-Is-there-a-dress-code Yeah, it kind of seems like whoever wrote that for that TA website was trying to rewrite the Dress Code to suit what they think it should be, as we've seen so many people do here over the years. It's pretty simple. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Harters Posted July 15 #33 Share Posted July 15 9 minutes ago, ORV said: It's pretty simple Not as simple as all that - if you come from a nation that doesnt have country clubs. Then "country club casual" can be completely meaningless. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay S Posted July 15 #34 Share Posted July 15 13 hours ago, 1985rz1 said: Do they then go to an upscale restaurant after golfing in those same sweaty shorts? Well, they do go into the club's restaurant, which isn't strictly speaking "upscale" but they do have tablecloths and real silverware. 🙂 It's true the definition "country club casual" is pretty NorthAmerican-centric, though. Taking it literally, I would say the people in the shorts I see at the country club would be following the literal letter of the law on Oceania. 🤣 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted July 17 #35 Share Posted July 17 Having had belonged to several country clubs across the U.S., one will find they’re much like Oceania. They have the 19th Hole, casual bar, or other casual dining facilities, then they have their main dining room. Dress codes for the main dining room are typically different than that in other venues. What you see them wearing in the front door is no indication of the various dress codes inside. Oceania likewise has casual and more upscale dining venues. This isn’t difficult. I’ve been in very major upscale resorts that have different dress codes for different venues. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted July 17 #36 Share Posted July 17 8 minutes ago, pinotlover said: Having had belonged to several country clubs across the U.S., one will find they’re much like Oceania. They have the 19th Hole, casual bar, or other casual dining facilities, then they have their main dining room. Dress codes for the main dining room are typically different than that in other venues. What you see them wearing in the front door is no indication of the various dress codes inside. Oceania likewise has casual and more upscale dining venues. This isn’t difficult. I’ve been in very major upscale resorts that have different dress codes for different venues. Let me just tack this on here. Despite some things I've read I did a little research and the UK does in fact have private golf clubs. And here's a guide, that seems reasonable, to what is acceptable in various venues. https://www.golfcare.co.uk/blog/2023/03/golf-dress-code-uk/ So this might help all people with some guidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Harters Posted July 17 #37 Share Posted July 17 57 minutes ago, clo said: UK does in fact have private golf club Ah. So an American country club is simply what we'd call a golf club? In that case, my nearby club (of which I am most definitely not a member) has this as its acceptable dress code for men inside the club house (different rules apply for the course) - smart jeans, smart casual shirt (may be worn outside trousers) smart T shirt, polo shirt, smart tailored shorts (max knee length), caps or hats (with any peak facing to the front), smart clean trainers. Probably a good job I didnt find that for our first cruise on O and use it as a guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted July 17 #38 Share Posted July 17 3 minutes ago, Harters said: Ah. So an American country club is simply what we'd call a golf club? In that case, my nearby club (of which I am most definitely not a member) has this as its acceptable dress code for men inside the club house (different rules apply for the course) - smart jeans, smart casual shirt (may be worn outside trousers) smart T shirt, polo shirt, smart tailored shorts (max knee length), caps or hats (with any peak facing to the front), smart clean trainers. Probably a good job I didnt find that for our first cruise on O and use it as a guide. Ah, and then there's the main dining room at Royal Troon. (I picked that because my husband was checking in to play golf and I was looking at portraits leading to the dining room. I have to believe that, at that time, unescorted women weren't allowed there, as an employee "cut me off at the pass." A cute memory. The main dining room at Royal Troon Golf Club in Scotland requires men to wear a coat and tie. Women can wear a blouse with trousers, a skirt, or a dress with a jacket. Hats are generally not worn in the clubhouse, and footwear rules vary by clubhouse. Some allow soft spikes in the proshop only, while others allow them throughout, and some don't allow them anywhere. Visitors should bring a change of shoes to ensure access to all areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Harters Posted July 17 #39 Share Posted July 17 2 minutes ago, clo said: A cute memory Yes, we still have the remnants of archaic culture. Although it's a long time since I saw a restaurant dress code requiring a tie (and that was also in Scotland). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ORV Posted July 17 #40 Share Posted July 17 3 minutes ago, clo said: I have to believe that, at that time, unescorted women weren't allowed there, as an employee "cut me off at the pass." No it was just you. 😜 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted July 17 #41 Share Posted July 17 2 minutes ago, ORV said: No it was just you. 😜 Omigod, you could be right!!!!! And I was heading off from there to go horseback riding so I'm sure I didn't pass muster 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SATaxman Posted July 17 #42 Share Posted July 17 There are several private clubs in NYC which require coats and ties for men, and dresses or skirts for women. Our Golf club does not allow hats in the main dining room. The other venues vary from shorts with a collared shirt for men with no hats to more casual swimsuits with cover up and baseball hats allowed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay S Posted July 17 #43 Share Posted July 17 4 hours ago, pinotlover said: Having had belonged to several country clubs across the U.S., one will find they’re much like Oceania. They have the 19th Hole, casual bar, or other casual dining facilities, then they have their main dining room. Dress codes for the main dining room are typically different than that in other venues. What you see them wearing in the front door is no indication of the various dress codes inside. COVID dealt a near-fatal blow to our country club. The dining facilities were closed for two years, and as they come back, they are hybrids of what once was. The golf course lived through it all, fortunately. The dress code has relaxed and during the hot summer (we are not far from Palm Springs) shorts are allowed. Shirts still need collars, though. We will be on Oceania in the late fall, so I would be surprised to see many shorts (on men or women.) I will wear what I always have to dine at the club, and I'll even revert to the pre-COVID standards. 🙂 My husband will do the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno123 Posted July 17 #44 Share Posted July 17 At my other half's golf club (in North Wales) tailored shorts are allowed on the course and in the clubhouse before 6. After 6 it's long trousers (including smart jeans) apart from specific events such as presentations when the winners are expected to wear a suit and tie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted July 18 #45 Share Posted July 18 I’ve always had a locker as have most members. After golf , we shower. We keep a pair of appropriate pants and a nice shirt in our locker so we can dress accordingly for which club venue we’re dining in. No one comes in hot, sweaty, and smelly from playing 18 and expecting to dine in the main dining room. No one should reasonably expect to come back from casual tours and be able to dine in the Specialties or GDR. None of this is difficult to understand, it’s mostly a case of a few wanting to drive everything to the LCD. Wear your shorts and flip flops to the TG or Waves pizza, and put on long pants, collar shirts for the other venues. If that’s to complicated, you’re on the wrong cruise line. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted July 18 #46 Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, pinotlover said: LCD Wait a minute! I thought I made that up some years ago. LCD = lowest common denominator? And a perfect description. Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thought2go Posted July 21 #47 Share Posted July 21 On 7/14/2024 at 4:43 PM, AMHuntFerry said: (but goes into more detail) to what was in the pre-cruise booklet that was received a few weeks before embarkation. According to another thread about the new “blue envelope” is this information even included for pax at the critical time of packing - especially for new O pax??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEFIowa Posted July 21 #48 Share Posted July 21 6 hours ago, Thought2go said: According to another thread about the new “blue envelope” is this information even included for pax at the critical time of packing - especially for new O pax??? For our upcoming Sirena voyage the dress code is discussed on p. 4 of the Welcome Aboard: "ONBOARD DRESS The ambiance on board is casual yet elegant throughout the cruise. Country club and resort-style attire are appropriate for both men and women. In all evening dining venues, we request that guests adhere to the country club casual dress code. Shorts, casual jeans, t-shirts, athletic footwear and sandals are not permitted in the [GDR], Red Ginger or Tuscan Steak. However, as [TC] and Waves Grill exude a resort-casual ambiance, dressy shorts and casual shirts may be worn at these venues. Tank tops and swimsuits are not appropriate attired for any of our onboard restaurants at any time. We recommend casual and comfortable attire when going ashore, with a particular emphasis on appropriate footwear, including good walking shoes and in some destinations, reef-walkers and beach sandals. Some tourist sites may require specific attire. Please consult with Destination Services located on Deck 4 for more information." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Harters Posted July 21 #49 Share Posted July 21 Cue another discussion over what are "casual" jeans and "dressy" shorts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarhoosier Posted July 21 #50 Share Posted July 21 "athletic footwear" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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