Constellation does NOT have a dress code

[BEAV]

With regard to policing and enforcement of dress codes, I wouldn't necessarily expect an employee who's salary is derived from gratuities to be the one to do it.

 

If Celebrity is genuinely interested in enforcement of dress codes in the main dining room, then it should be done by a management employee (someone who reports to the Hotel director?).

 

If I were a maitre'd, I would be hesitant to open Pandora's box with a passenger who I'm hoping (and expecting) will tip me at the end of the cruise.

[joelmarj]

By the way, as for the 5 day Century cruises, I have my Dailies from April 2-7. It specifically says "Following are the required modes of attire for evening dress (after 6:00 pm nightly) throughout the ship." And yes, the highlighted word is exactly that way. So it is up to the passengers to follow directions that are clearly spelled out and to me it is just purely selfish and disrespectful not to. If you now need "door police" then that's pretty sad. I agree that Celebrity should be better at enforcing it, but people need to be responsible for following directions.

[operafan]

I do believe the problem of formal attire (and lack thereof) has been solved by X and explained concisely in their most current press release.......... (I've limited this to the portion of the release applicable to this topic)

 

Celebrity Cruises 4-16-07

The Leader in Cutting-Edge Entertainment

 

 

 

"Those guests unwilling or unable to dress appropriately for formal dinners shall be segregated until 11am the morning following said dinner. They then shall be marched singly to the skeet shooting deck, dangled by their toenails and forced to be targets for a minimum of 10minutes or 50 shots, whichever is greater. Spectator tickets for the daily event will be sold for $30 which shall be conveniently charged to the guests seapass account. "

 

Wow! Just when I thought X couldn't get any better.......

[lysolqn]

Operafan, does the press release make mention of the suggested/required manner of dress for those attending the event?

[operafan]

Operafan, does the press release make mention of the suggested/required manner of dress for those attending the event?

 

LOL............

 

But seriously, this entire topic seems inane. I've just been watching the school shooting in VA.

[JCDeck]

I do believe the problem of formal attire (and lack thereof) has been solved by X and explained concisely in their most current press release.......... (I've limited this to the portion of the release applicable to this topic)

 

Celebrity Cruises 4-16-07

The Leader in Cutting-Edge Entertainment

 

 

 

"Those guests unwilling or unable to dress appropriately for formal dinners shall be segregated until 11am the morning following said dinner. They then shall be marched singly to the skeet shooting deck, dangled by their toenails and forced to be targets for a minimum of 10minutes or 50 shots, whichever is greater. Spectator tickets for the daily event will be sold for $30 which shall be conveniently charged to the guests seapass account. "

 

Wow! Just when I thought X couldn't get any better.......

 

Yeah! but here we go with the nickle and diming for everything again, this should be included in the cruise fare.

[Karynanne]

Yeah! but here we go with the nickle and diming for everything again, this should be included in the cruise fare.

 

And passengers were starting to complain about the entertainment on board....this would be SRO!

 

BEAV, I agree with you about the huge differences in upholding the dress code on a transatlantic crossing vs. a Carribean cruise. The crossing had a completely different ambiance.

 

Karyn

[Elaine0138]

We have found that every cruise has it's own individual atmosphere. On transatlantic crossings, the dress code is adhered. We didn't see anyone not dressing for that particular evenings attire.

 

Karyn

 

On our TA the dress code wasn't adhered to, very few men in evening suits don't think I saw a lady in a long evening dress, lots of ladies in trousers though.

[EmJakeBubbie]

On our TA the dress code wasn't adhered to, very few men in evening suits don't think I saw a lady in a long evening dress, lots of ladies in trousers though.

Are you planning to go formal on your next cruise?

[Sky Sweet]

Hi Everyone !

 

While I agree that in a perfect world, it would be wonderful if everyone respected the dress code, I think the odds of it ever happening on a 100% basis are about nil. While I much prefer assigned seating with the Dress code, this thread supports the argument of other Dining venues for those who want to dress casual. Yes, Celebrity has it, but it is only one venue, with the same menu every night.

 

Maybe it is just me, but I work far too hard all year long, to let what anyone else wears get to me. I never let things like that concern me in the least on MY vacation. By the offenders not dressing as required, I feel it makes THEM look very foolish.

 

When the Solstice class comes out, I would like to see Celebrity retain the Main Dining Room, with assigned seating. I would also like to see some new choices for casual Dining, as this will keep everyone happy.

 

Hi Host Andy :)

 

I agree with you 100 %. In recent years a number of upscale restaurants have added a "grill room" where people can dress more casually than in their formal dining room, and this has not had an adverse affect on either its clientelle or quality.

[julieanne]

Are you planning to go formal on your next cruise?

We're on one Monday the 23rd to Spain. The tux, suit and formals are also going along.......Doesn't matter what anyone else wears, but if the waiter/waitress can wear a suit and tie, we can dress appropriately as well! :eek:

[movie buff]

I guess alot has to do with how you were brought up. My parents always were aware of their surroundings and had myself, my brother and sister dress as per the place we were going required. As a adult it really never entered my mind not to follow a required dress code. But in todays world it seems even in the more formal settings ie fine restaurants, theater ect,you see jeans, tee shirts, shorts ect. It use to be you would not be allowed to attend these places or events if you were not in proper dress. Now anything goes. I still enjoy the formal evenings and if I wasn't really in the mood to be formal, I would pick a crusie line like NCL or Princess where I could pretty much wear anything I wanted and blend in with the majority of the passengers.

[The Mommy]

Hi

Fact- It is good manners and correct social etiquette to to dress correctly for dinner and to respect the code.

An alternative cruise line who promotes casual dining is the answer if dressing up is not for you but for those who still wish to sail with a line who supports these traditional values then they should at least try their very best to blend in and not deliberately choose garments that are as opposite as possible to the code !- this is just very bad manners.

Fortunately I love to dress up and I feel very sorry for those who come to the dining room in the hope of making some sort of statement as the laugh is on them.

What would they do at home I wonder if they were invited to a ball or to the golf club or to a fine restaurant to dine - the answer is they would dress appropriately or be refused admission. For many reasons I can see why Celebrity may find it difficult or impossible to enforce this code but quite honestly they shouldn't have to. The required code is in plain writing and should be adhered to. It is not a choice but a requirement.There will always be a minority who are rule breakers or rule benders but thankfully they will be kept to the minority as long as the majority don't give up.

I do think however that the solution would be in the provision of top quality alternative dining arrangements where casual dress is welcomed ie. specialist grill or Italian restaurant etc. That way we can all be happy with no square pegs being forced into round holes.

[whm]

I guess that since we as a society tolerate the low class dress then we have ourselves to blame.

[movie buff]

I think the bottom line is money. Its just the fear that if you demand passenges follow a dress code you might anger them and they give their business to another cruise line Not sure how they handle it on cruise lines like Crystal, Regent and Silversea.

[trailercruiser]

The nerve of some people, I tell you . Lets look at the forbes list of the most successful,richest people in the world. The top 10 all prefer to wear jeans , it is not a sign of low class. You people need to get over pretending your upscale by wearing "supposed nice clothes". Clothes have no bearing on"upscale" . Celebrity is known as a mass market cruise line as, hal,carnival,rci,ncl..ect.. There are upscale cruiselines but celebrity is not one so quit pretending you are on one. Celebrity is a great mass market cruise line thats it no less no more. Lets all get off our high horses and stick our noses up at people who really deserve it, like H.C.:)

[whm]

The top ten probably do prefer to wear jeans. The big difference is that they also know when jeans are appropriate and when they are not.

[FinelyCruising]

Let's be civil and leave class out of this, else you are being snobbish!

 

There is no doubt a fair amount of perhiperal information out there with cruiose lines that offer this kind of dining or that kind of dining. Here to on the boards, so for thoise souls who are less detail oriented, there needs to be a better way for the cruislines to get the message out.

 

I am not sure that three foraml nights is a good enough reason, bsut there does seem to be a trend to desire a less form al environment. Personally I'd me more than happy with not more than two, but it seems many of the shorter cruises are the ones that have the most issues with formal dress.

 

Maybe cruises shorter than 7 nights ought to be casual cruises to eliminate the continued struggle.

 

For the lovers of the combination of the longer cruise and the more formal atmosphere, it might be able to be made more simpler.

 

Does X care about us CC members who cry about dress codes, not really as been proven over time by lack of dress code enforcement, but they might be a bit smarter when they eliminate the black marks on their character that they themselves create with a lack of enforcement by shift to selectively making a business a decision that markets some of the cruises as casual, some as formal and some others as country club casual.

 

For those on this board who prefer profiling, this might do it to create a platform that makes sense for the line and requires advertisers or agents to explain that shift in atmoshphere in a positive and unique manner.

 

Heck if they do it right, they could really set themselves apart form the other lines.

[whm]

Well said

[Karynanne]

The nerve of some people, I tell you . Lets look at the forbes list of the most successful,richest people in the world. The top 10 all prefer to wear jeans , it is not a sign of low class. You people need to get over pretending your upscale by wearing "supposed nice clothes". Clothes have no bearing on"upscale" . Celebrity is known as a mass market cruise line as, hal,carnival,rci,ncl..ect.. There are upscale cruiselines but celebrity is not one so quit pretending you are on one. Celebrity is a great mass market cruise line thats it no less no more. Lets all get off our high horses and stick our noses up at people who really deserve it, like H.C.:)

 

Well I guess I'm one of those "you people"....not "pretending" to be upscale, we just choose to respect the cruiselines dress code for specific evenings. Even though Celebrity may be a mass-marketed cruiseline, there can be different levels and demographic targets within the mass-market.

 

Now as far as the top 10 Forbes listees...I would gather to say, that if any of them were invited to a black-tie event, they would not arrive in their jeans. They would respect the venue and requested attire.

 

I agree with the previous posters....it really boils down to respect.

 

Karyn

[EmJakeBubbie]

does ol Gates even own a tie?:D

[JCDeck]

does ol Gates even own a tie?:D

 

Yes, my husband and I were at an awards dinner fund raiser where he was an honoree. He was probably the most expensive, impeccably dressed man there. It is about respect, don't kid yourself that when you see him in jeans this is what he is wearing to social functions and the White House. When that girls sports team wore open toed sandles to the White House a few years back, people were upset for a reasom.... It's about respect.

[julieanne]

Yes, but it's about respect for the cruiseline's dress code. It has nothing to do with respect for their fellow pax or is it a class issue. These are just some of the people who are trying Celebrity because they heard how wonderful it is. Yet, these are some of the same people who are of the mind that it's "their vacation and they'll do what they want". So, I guess my response would be, let's keep Celebrity to ourselves and stop telling others how wonderful it is! LOL, I can hardly wait until I return from this RCI cruise! Apparently, we'll be seeing wife beaters and hoodies for formal night! ROTFLMAO! :D (Goodness knows, I haven't sailed with them in a long time....I don't even know what to expect for formal night anymore!) :cool:

[FinelyCruising]

Expect the norm on formal night to be males sans tuxedo's and suits. It's a much different world.

[SusieV]

The nerve of some people, I tell you . Lets look at the forbes list of the most successful,richest people in the world. The top 10 all prefer to wear jeans , it is not a sign of low class. You people need to get over pretending your upscale by wearing "supposed nice clothes". Clothes have no bearing on"upscale" . Celebrity is known as a mass market cruise line as, hal,carnival,rci,ncl..ect.. There are upscale cruiselines but celebrity is not one so quit pretending you are on one. Celebrity is a great mass market cruise line thats it no less no more. Lets all get off our high horses and stick our noses up at people who really deserve it, like H.C.:)

 

It's not the type of clothing being worn that is causing these remarks. It is the fact that cruisers are disrespecting the REQUIRED mode of attire in the evenings. If there was a night that said blue jeans required and I did not wish to wear jeans, I would not eat in the dining room out of respect for the rules of the cruiseline.

 

Although frankly, my husband and I would prefer a return to the times when every evening was formal. We love the ambiance of the dining room on formal nights. When else can we wear our tuxes and gowns?