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Bermuda has absolutely gorgeous beaches. Ocean swimming is my thing and would have preferred if they started the run in June rather than in August, which is towards the end of the high season. Bermuda's hot weather window is quite short for swimming opportunities. By August, ocean temperature does start to cool off a bit. Once stayed there in September and found the ocean too cold to swim in. May was also too cool for the ocean swimming. Great for golf though.

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Bermuda has absolutely gorgeous beaches. Ocean swimming is my thing and would have preferred if they started the run in June rather than in August, which is towards the end of the high season. Bermuda's hot weather window is quite short for swimming opportunities. By August, ocean temperature does start to cool off a bit. Once stayed there in September and found the ocean too cold to swim in. May was also too cool for the ocean swimming. Great for golf though.

 

In 2011 they start the sailings in May; we just have to wait another year!

 

We stopped in Bermuda in late April last year were in the water at Horsehoe Bay. It was chilly, but no more so than the ocean here on Long Island in July. I guess it is what you're used to! I have heard that the water in September is still very warm. I just hesitate to plan a cruise to Bermuda in hurrican season.

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The Bermudian Islands are one of the Best places on Earth!

 

Coming from the Greater NYC area it is wonderful. This run for a Ship (NYC) R/T to Bermuda is the most profitable of any run for passenger cruise ships.

 

Bermuda now as well is in deep discussion on having Gambling allowed aboared the Ships whilst in Port.

 

The beaches and Golf in Bermuda are some of the finest times spent by anyone. :cool:

 

 

Wishing many more ships and days spent were to and in Bermuda on Cruise Ships..for all...

 

 

 

http://www.hollandamerica.com/news/NewsRelease.action?newsReleaseId=592

 

A full season of cruises out of New York, with overnight calls at both Hamilton and St. George's.

 

Bes Regards,

Floris

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This run for a Ship (NYC) R/T to Bermuda is the most profitable of any run for passenger cruise ships.

 

I doubt that X would have pulled out of this market if it had been there most profitable run :rolleyes:

 

Floris

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I doubt that X would have pulled out of this market if it had been there most profitable run :rolleyes:

 

Floris

 

There is no docking space for an X ship in Bermuda.

 

The smallest of the X ships is the Century @ 70,000 GRT.

 

Even with that, with the current schedule NCL holds docking the Spirit and Dawn, and RCI alternating there Explorer and Grangeur at the Dockyard, there is simply no room for a ship for more than a day call.

 

Plenty of space in Hamilton and St. George though.

 

Happy Cruising!

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When in doubt...

 

PUNT <>~~~|-|

 

 

X did loose the Zenith a smaller ship .. which we have cruised on from here many times...;) Bermuda does need a smaller ship to dock in Hamilton and St Georges.. have you seen the CUT there? I can almost touch the edges when the Town Crier Announces the coming in...

 

 

*NOTE* Be glad your not on NCL ship they charge separate docking fees, when Bermuda only charges ONE FEE for any/all done, ...hhmm..

some attorney will see that one day...

 

MOTBY an ex US Navy Base, now Port Liberty in the City of Bayonne, Hudson County, New Jersey is also going to have TWO Mega-Berths for Cruise Ships soon not just one... but no Smaller X Ships...

 

Having in Port Days too staff can be at a min. stores/shop, casino, culinary places...etc... aboard are closed..

 

The small nautical mileage from NYC to Bermuda helps keep fuel usages to a min too.

 

Here in the greater NYC are we have the most densely populated State and the only one of 50 which is now know as fully developed.. (New Jersey).

 

 

1/8th of the US population resides within a 20 mile circle of the Passenger Cruise Terminal on the North River (Most know this as the Hudson) in Mid-Town (Manhattan Island Borough Island).

 

One 1/3 of the countries wealth as well.

 

So supply of passengers with proper advertisements helps fill ships quickly... as it is also the most competitive in the World!

 

So Cruise Ship Lines have to give great services , great value and provide quality products too otherwise they loose ... ahhh competition in a Free Market System..is wonderful for us consumers/cruisers...:eek:

 

 

They do have to advertise on TV/Radio and Print ads..Bill Boards as well as so many want the eyeballs of everyone..

 

 

 

 

I doubt that X would have pulled out of this market if it had been there most profitable run :rolleyes:

 

Floris

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There is no docking space for an X ship in Bermuda.

 

The smallest of the X ships is the Century @ 70,000 GRT.

 

Even with that, with the current schedule NCL holds docking the Spirit and Dawn, and RCI alternating there Explorer and Grangeur at the Dockyard, there is simply no room for a ship for more than a day call.

 

Plenty of space in Hamilton and St. George though.

 

Happy Cruising!

 

X could easily have decided to keep Journey on the Bermuda run if this would have been the most profitable route of them all. Apparantly there is (was?) more money to be made in the Mediterranean.

 

Floris

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Mecury would be such a pefect fit for Bermuda-- but glad something other than Royal Carib will be going there,,

 

Hi hcat :)

 

I think Mercury is too big for Hamilton or St George. It would probably have to dock at Kings Wharf which is busy with large NCL and Royal Caribbean Ships.

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http://www.hollandamerica.com/news/NewsRelease.action?newsReleaseId=592

 

A full season of cruises out of New York, with overnight calls at both Hamilton and St. George's. Bes Regards, Floris

 

I read the release but find myself confused.

According to the Bermuda government cruise ships will no longer dock in Hamilton.

The reason is environmental, ships were churning up the bay floor and causing other concerns making the turn in the bay.

 

They just completed the expansion of the cruise pier at Kings Wharf to accept more ships.

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X could easily have decided to keep Journey on the Bermuda run if this would have been the most profitable route of them all. Apparantly there is (was?) more money to be made in the Mediterranean.

 

Floris

 

What is Journey? I am not at al familiar with it being an X ship or a RCCL ship.:confused:

 

On another note...the Bermuda runs, when they were really run, were hardly inexpensive compared to other routes, so they were mixed in wth some special itins and eventually eliminated in entirety.

 

Bermuda is a prime destination all in itself, and X has missed by not including it. I'd go back in a heartbeat if it was all about Bermuda from the Mid-Atlantic states, and I'll bet others would too.

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What is Journey? I am not at al familiar with it being an X ship or a RCCL ship.:confused:

 

On another note...the Bermuda runs, when they were really run, were hardly inexpensive compared to other routes, so they were mixed in wth some special itins and eventually eliminated in entirety.

 

Bermuda is a prime destination all in itself, and X has missed by not including it. I'd go back in a heartbeat if it was all about Bermuda from the Mid-Atlantic states, and I'll bet others would too.

 

Journey is the Azamara ship that did the Bermuda run last year when they got rid of Zenith....

 

I agree, I would go back to Bermuda also, love the idea of docking and staying there for 3 1/2 days with the exception of the move to St. George.

 

Mercury will not fit into either Hamilton or St. George and when going to Bermuda there is nothing like docking in either or both of those places. The dockyards does nothing for me...

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Journey is the Azamara ship that did the Bermuda run last year when they got rid of Zenith....

 

I agree, I would go back to Bermuda also, love the idea of docking and staying there for 3 1/2 days with the exception of the move to St. George.

 

Mercury will not fit into either Hamilton or St. George and when going to Bermuda there is nothing like docking in either or both of those places. The dockyards does nothing for me...

 

Don Thanks....I must be one poor demographic since I never seem to remember Azamara at all.

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This is where my wife and I cut our teeth - so to speak - on crusing back in the late 70's and early 80's.

Holland America had the Volendam, Veendam and Statendam all sailing to Bermuda in the summer months.

These ships were their smaller name sakes.

Each has since been retired and replaced in the HAL list of ships.

 

The Bermudian Islands are one of the Best places on Earth!

 

Coming from the Greater NYC area it is wonderful. This run for a Ship (NYC) R/T to Bermuda is the most profitable of any run for passenger cruise ships.

 

Bermuda now as well is in deep discussion on having Gambling allowed aboared the Ships whilst in Port.

 

The beaches and Golf in Bermuda are some of the finest times spent by anyone. :cool:

 

 

Wishing many more ships and days spent were to and in Bermuda on Cruise Ships..for all...

 

 

Where in Bergen County??????

 

And I agree this is one of the best if not the best palce for a vacation.

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