Jones Act for Canadians?

[a9753]

Does it apply for Canadians? If I was to book a back to back repositioning cruise from a US port to a US port?

[paul929207]

The PVSA prohibits most cruise lines from carrying passengers from one US port to another. While there are exceptions, they rarely apply. The citizenship of the passengers does not matter.

[Pam in CA]

Does it apply for Canadians? If I was to book a back to back repositioning cruise from a US port to a US port?

 

The PVSA prohibits most cruise lines from carrying passengers from one US port to another. While there are exceptions, they rarely apply. The citizenship of the passengers does not matter.

Correct. The PVSA (not the Jones Act) applies to anyone, regardless of nationality, boarding a ship in one US port and disembarking in another US port.

[MaryPoppinz]

It applies to the ship. As such, it affects everyone on it, passenger, crew, staff, officers...regardless of nationality.

[a9753]

How about if the ship is stopping in a foreign port during the second part of the repositioning cruise?

[Pam in CA]

How about if the ship is stopping in a foreign port during the second part of the repositioning cruise?

It has to be a "far" foreign port. For instance, if it's Vancouver or Ensenada, you couldn't do it. If the ship were going to Ixtapa, you could.

[paul929207]

How about if the ship is stopping in a foreign port during the second part of the repositioning cruise?

The Foriegn port must be far away. Usually, on a different continent. Vancouver, Victoria and Ensenada do not count.

[a9753]

Then how do cruiselines get away with round trip seattle Alaska cruises? The foreign port stop is Victoria. Also, how about 3 night Mexican cruises, usually the foreign port stop is Ensenada...

[MaryPoppinz]

Then how do cruiselines get away with round trip seattle Alaska cruises? The foreign port stop is Victoria. Also, how about 3 night Mexican cruises, usually the foreign port stop is Ensenada...

 

Because they are roundtrip. It only applies when the transport is between two different US ports, ie: Fort Lauderdale to Los Angeles.

[a9753]

That totally makes sense.

 

So one couldn't travel from:

 

Seattle to Vancouver on a 1 night cruise and then Vancouver to Los Angeles (with a stop in Nanaimo) on a 7 night cruise legally then, correct?

[paul929207]

Then how do cruiselines get away with round trip seattle Alaska cruises? The foreign port stop is Victoria. Also, how about 3 night Mexican cruises, usually the foreign port stop is Ensenada...

Those cruises are starting and ending in the same US port. It that case any foriegn port will do. But if they wanted to start in Seattle and end in LA, then Vancouver, Victoria and Esenada would not do. They would need a muh further away foriegn port.

[paul929207]

That totally makes sense.

 

So one couldn't travel from:

 

Seattle to Vancouver on a 1 night cruise and then Vancouver to Los Angeles (with a stop in Nanaimo) on a 7 night cruise legally then, correct?

Correct. You would have to stay in Vancouver for at least 24 hours to make it legal.

[MaryPoppinz]

That totally makes sense.

 

So one couldn't travel from:

 

Seattle to Vancouver on a 1 night cruise and then Vancouver to Los Angeles (with a stop in Nanaimo) on a 7 night cruise legally then, correct?

 

Only if they're also going to Kiribati. Might be kind of a tight schedule. ;)

[caribill]

Correct. You would have to stay in Vancouver for at least 24 hours to make it legal.

 

Or switch ships.

[paul929207]

Or switch ships.

I don't believe this is correct. I think you have to either stay 24 hours or change cruise lines. If you change ships within a cruise line, that line is still carrying you from one US port to another and that is illegal.

[Cruise Junky]

That totally makes sense.

 

So one couldn't travel from:

 

Seattle to Vancouver on a 1 night cruise and then Vancouver to Los Angeles (with a stop in Nanaimo) on a 7 night cruise legally then, correct?

 

That would be fine if you had an overnight in Vancouver.

[Pam in CA]

I don't believe this is correct. I think you have to either stay 24 hours or change cruise lines. If you change ships within a cruise line, that line is still carrying you from one US port to another and that is illegal.

If you change ships, they are less likely to catch the illegal booking (your TA should explain that it's illegal but they may be able to get away with booking it) but it's still illegal and if you are caught, you'll pay the fine, not your TA. Actually, the ship is fined and they pass that fine along to you.

[iancal]

The Jones act reminds me of the Cuban embargo. They have both had their day...time to get rid of them both.