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1 minute ago, bouhunter said:

Another article mentioned that they tested 200 as a follow up.  So 200 people probably went thru the lock up, monitoring and testing.....   what fun.

Yes... not just one person, but 200. Even if it was just an overnight only in your cabin, it would suck. 

1 hour ago, sept10dsm said:

With all this going on although not what many may want to hear , may be better to wait and see and go with all this settles.  It's news all over that the 2 on a cruise ship are positive.  Like it's the end of the world. 

I'm hoping all of this negative news for the industry will cool their jets on price increases for cabins, packages, and excursions.

On 6/9/2021 at 1:02 PM, Tree_skier said:

So I’m leaning towards purchasing a Tuxedo for cruise formal nights for our Alaska cruise on Serenade in August.  Traditionally I have  brought and worn black suit, white shirt and a couple of ties, one for each night. 
 

So to those who have or have companions who wear or have worn tux’s what recommendations do you have for selecting the right tux. I don’t know how to tie a bow tie, is one that clips the equivalent of a clip on regular tie. Are French cuffs mandatory as part of tuxedo wear? Should I stick with white for the shirt or are there other options that are considered equally formal. So many questions!  
 

I’m shopping today at Joseph A Banks  but may not buy today. All answers and recommendations welcomed. 
 

it’s great to be planning again. 
 

 

Go for it. I'm considering doing the same but for European cruises only. 

2 hours ago, kilkoyne said:

 

The problem is the media making it headlines. Many people will just read a headline and automatically think this is such a bad thing.

 

I agree with you with testing asymptomatic passenger is absurd.

Well good. Maybe a little gloom & doom is needed. These cruiselines are about to price themselves out of future reservations. Prices need to come back to earth and then stabilize some. 

It's also a 'wearable' meaning a contact tracer.

It may be another avenue to greatly increase revenues. 

I'm not sure as I've never been on a Princeess cruise. But in today's world, the implementation of something of this nature has most likely went up & down the flagpole of multiple boardroom discussions along with many dollars spent to do studies on its feasibility & merit. Perhaps this has been established as a need due a history to average to below service in the past. Who knows really. Or perhaps it's a forward thinking innovative model for service on a cruise ship as we all live in a world full of Siri, Alexa, & Google. 

45 minutes ago, zekekelso said:

For the record, I haven’t a clue what happened. I don’t know what vaccines they did or didn’t have. I don’t know what testing happened. I’m always impressed at how smart CruiseCritic posters are that can figure this stuff out. 

What I do know is that these two cases, unlike the thousands of other cases, made every news story in the country. Not good. 

 

I do not think for a moment that cruising will stop. I do not think these two will be the last to be found with covid.... but I do think this type of news will eventually not even make the headlines. 

1 hour ago, crewsweeper said:

So the 2 out of X number of passengers tested positive, but they were allowed to go on an excursion?  Seems fishy, if it took that long for tests to come back. If the reporters were vaccinated why were they also quarantined? 

 

Methinks we don have all the juicy info yet.

Info is out there for the reading. One just has to go read it. 

11 minutes ago, LouChamp said:

This is why as i have said only to be lambasted that although i love cruising, not right now 

Yeppers! Not me anyway. 

1 minute ago, ArthurUSCG said:

Think of the CDC card as an appointment reminder card that the nurse scribbles the date and time on. The cards were designed only for the patient's infomation and not as a form of vaccine record. But just so you know, the site verifies in their records that they are administering the 2nd shot and should have instructed her to keep the 2nd card with the 1st card. The vaccine site and the state agency that stores the health records, has both shot information in the database.

Here's how mine went via CVS pharmacy....

The nurse physically hand wrote my pertinent info including name, SS#, date, and the vial# on a form for her/their records.  She then wrote down my name, date, the vial# on a vaccine record card and issued it to me. So sometime later this info was then transcribed and manually data entered into a data base. My point is that this process lends itself to human error.  Especially if one multiplies this by millions upon millions. TBH, having experienced this first hand and how my M-I-L' s was processed, I personally would have issues accusing anyone of using a falsified vaccine card. But hey... that's me.  

5 hours ago, BOOKBOOKBOOK said:

 

Glad that we agree that even if Royal was starting to "question the vaccines", it is not to a significant degree.

 

Your point about how Royal may react to fake vaccine cards is interesting, and I'm inclined to agree that they may very well keep this swept under the rug because not enough "damage" was done to anybody. Although unconfirmed, I heard a rumor that after the captain announced the positives onboard, masking protocols and other restrictions were imposed for the rest of the passengers for the rest of the journey. So, maybe enough "damage" was done to warrant further investigation and a press release.

 

Although I agree that Royal will have to tread carefully if they choose to pursue the issue, I believe it won't be difficult to do so. They can simply hand over the cards to the feds/CDC for inspection (assuming the two positives are American passengers). The feds would be very interested in a possible case of a federal crime being committed. At that point, Royal being sued would be at the bottom of the fakers' worries.

 

I don't believe Royal will face much of a PR problem for demanding cards that they didn't verify. Royal will most certainly issue some form of punishment against the fake cardholders in the form of a lifetime ban. It sends the message that, "yeah, go ahead and fake the cards all you want, but be prepared for the consequences from us and from the feds if anything prompts us to start checking cards". It's easier to check/submit 2 cards than ~600.

Once again.... all of above is on the premise that the cards were fake. 

The vaccine csards are a hot mess though. My 81 yr old M-I-L left her vaccine card at home for her 2nd pfizer shot. They jabbed her anyway and sent her down the road. She has a date only, No trace of the vial # or anything. The facts will show that human error will be created when you administer millions upon millions of these jabs. Proving a 'fake' vaccine card is going to be very very difficult. I'm not sure any business will wish to attempt to accuse someone for doing so based on this.

I'm still doing Jethro's fave... Kellogg Corn Flakes.

See you at the Sky Bar until then Cheers to you Eddie!

7 minutes ago, BOOKBOOKBOOK said:

 

Let's say that you are correct that RCG is starting to "question vaccines". How is this significant in any capacity? As far as I can tell, fully vaccinated cruises will continue sailing in a normalized (pre-COVID) manner. RCG has yet to make an announcement that ships from Caribbean homeports will no longer require the vaccine for those 16 and up (12+ starting in August).

 

Full disclaimer, we still have yet to learn more information surrounding the positive tests. Were they false positives? Were these people actually fully vaccinated, or did they pull off a "here's my card but please don't actually look at the numbers/dates"? What will RCG's official response to this situation be in terms of changing their health protocols moving forward?

 

If I had to bet money, I highly doubt that this is a precursor to RCG making vaccines completely optional. If an unmasked, fully vaccinated cruise at 30% capacity yielded two positive tests, how many would an unmasked, vaccine-optional cruise at higher capacities yield?

I recognize that the many theorize that the two covid passengers used a fake card. But understand this, RCG has to very very careful on this one. They'll have to prove it beyond a shadow of doubt or they be sued big time. Next is the PR problem they'll be facing if they do tell us the vaccine cards are fake. They lose all credibility because the required documentation was not verified but yet demanded. That's a serious problem for RCG.  Because of these two reasons, I seriously doubt that we'll hear anything going forward about them.  

1 minute ago, BOOKBOOKBOOK said:

 

You're right! Even better, we can make him less scary by getting this thing called a vaccine! 👍

Tell that to the two sitting along on Millie. 

So it appears that RCG doesn't believe the vaccine is working enough. So let's review...

Today word from RCL comes out suddenly that all vaccinated passengers to be tested for a future cruise on the Adventure.

Today, word is released that two passengers test positive on a vaccinated cruise from Celebrity.

Naw... now way these two things are related.

Sure sounds like RCG is starting to question vsaccines.  

Wait.

I thought Covid was the boogeyman. 

2 hours ago, soremekun said:

If I am selected, can I immediately go to guest services and request a stateroom upgrade?

Loudly and dramaically complain about someone smoking on the balcony. Then immediatley remove your auto gratuities and storm off.  

33 minutes ago, Diver2014 said:

Another reason we would never book with Carnival but I understand their situation.  The cruise lines will do anything right now to get passengers on board and get the Center for Disease Conspiracy off their backs with all their arbitrary rules.  We'll wait till next year and sail on Royal.

Good post. This is spot on. 

I'm still not understanding the logic of vaccinated cruisers. A person that is vaccinated can contract the covid virus.  RCL can require vaccines until they are blue in the face, but once they pull into a port and let people off, covid can (and most likely will) be brought onto the ship. 

Vaxed or Non-Vaxed, testing should be a major part of any cruise from any port going on any itenerary. At least for the time being. 

9 minutes ago, ArthurUSCG said:

RCL isn't requiring vaccines either.

Yes they are. You need to understsand that the ONLY cruise they are not is out of Florida. Everywhere else, they do and they are. 

34 minutes ago, jcarter4551 said:

We are on AoS this Saturday and RC just sent an email stating vaccinated passengers will also need to take a rapid test and test negative at checkin prior to boarding. RC will provide the test free of charge, but will give it at checkin. They state they want to give further assurance to all passengers that nobody is boarding with COVID. 
 

I think they want zero chance of any issues on this initial sailing. 
 

Question: Bahamas doesn’t require vaxxed passengers to show negative test just the vaccine card via health visa. I am okay with the testing by RC but would you get a rapid test before leaving the states. If you test positive you will need to quarantine for 14 days before coming back to US. 

All this shows is that there are too many people that still does not believe in the science of the vaccine. Here we have Royal threatening to charge non vaxed passengers additional fees and add additional protocals for their cruise ships, yet even they are not too damn sure this vaccine is good to go. 

It's just too early to go cruising yet... but they are trying there best to force the issue. So glad we've decided to wait it a bit longer. 

12 hours ago, ReneeFLL said:

What choice do they have?

Believe me... they have choices.... like EVERYONE gets tested. They CHOSE not to do this.... but it was a CHOICE.

To see our cruising buddies. We haven't seen them since our last cruise. Although we've had a number of voom happy hours etc. But sharing time with them on another adventure on the seas is going to be wonderful. At this point, I wouldn't even mind hearing RCL 'hawk' their crap while we're enjoying a dinner in the MDR. Which BTW, is a big pet peeve of mine. 

1 hour ago, molly361 said:

I can't wait to....... see the day when there are no more vaccine threads on CC😇

Damn. There wasn't anything in this thread until you posted something.