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You are 100% correct. They are HOPEFULLY discounted cruises. If you dont keep gambling your offers will dry up. However, I have had some free ones. Every once is a long while you have a lucky cruise and win enough to cover it.

This is posted on every rccl ship. Very tranparent.

well I am not into trying to win money anymore. I have proven that can't be done long term. So therefore, I just do it for fun and I realize it comes at a cost. If I am not getting a free something or the other I don't gamble, its just as simple as that. However, I have learned the ins and out of gambling over my 40 year career. Unless you are wiling to puke up tons of cash, gambling on table to get comps is not worth it. Comps must be made on machines. Luckily I only play tables and my wife only pays slots, so she gambles a little on my card when we need to make status. Usually we don't count on offers for both of us, but royal makes it so easy, why not? Now we have offers for both of us on both. I suggest you try royal if you gamble because in my eyes, its much more transparent and easier to obtain/control. Especially since you are already rated on carnival. It really opens up options. RCCL upgrade options are way easier and transparent as well. The drinks in casino includes a bar so you can get your own drinks and bring beers/sodas back to the room. In addition on the big ships the casino is much larger with two texas hold tables, two craps, and tons of machines. You get 1 point for every $5 gambled. So each time you bet $5 you get a point. IT takes 2500 points to get free drinks, a 7 day interior on any cruise which is called PRIME. Then you get monthly offers from there on. You also get freeplay and so forth. For each individual cruise you get offers in addition from the following table. 800 points is usually a free interior on select sailings or $250 off anything. You can also combine offers with anyone in your cabin, which carnival does not allow. SO that way if you both have $500 off and you want a particular sailing, its $1000 off. The way I figure it, I get a cheaper price(considering losses) then a non gambler and I get to gamble and not care if I lose. My wife once is awhile wins a $1000 jackpot which is icing on the cake. I will post the table from the brilliance of the seas(which has an awful casino) after this post. They have pretty much been the same since November. Its very transparent. I did not mean to highjack this thread to RCCL. I just don't have enough knowledge yet on carnival to report back. We took one cruise and have a 15 day Hawaii booked, and tons of offers we don't have time for. I was sick that I could not take the totally free 30 day, la, Alaska, japan, Australia cruise they offered us due to work.

I need to add that in any casino, I see most people cannot manage their money. I see them spend thousands of dollars. Nobody wins in a casino over time. But often, with the free rooms, drinks, etc, you can manage very inexpensive entertainment for those that don't lose too much money. Those are the people who are going in to win money as opposed to paying for entertainment.

You are right about everything except “spending thiusands in the casino”. Obviously you dont gamble and thats a good thing for most. Its hard for me to put a number on it at carnival as i have not cruised them since 2016. We never got offers then. However on royal its super transparent and 800 points will score you a free inside. All we did on carnival was have them match our royal status and now we just did our first free 8 day and have a free 15 day hawaii scheduled. Now i am not saying we dont spend money, but i can 100% guarantee that we dont in total spend as much as a person who does not gamble. We lost a total of about $550 on the 8 day cruise. Which that plus tax and port charges is what it cost us with free drinks in casino, our onboard spend was low and we got $150 total cash for freeplay. We had two rooms as well and invited relatives who had an inside, we had an outside. They do not gamble so the lost like $20 each and gave up. So the four of us had a great time for $550 + tax. And this is not an anomoly we did the same in january on rccl. We are on our 8th free post covid cruise next month on wonder. Will it scale back? I would almost guarantee it. Its simply too good of a deal. They were desperate to get the ships full.

Be careful. Ours came in as telemarketer so we didnt answer.

I get it and from now on its just a resort fee for me. I think alot of people would not react as they do if they were transparent about who gets the tips and that they are not using a guaranteed salary + tips model.

darn, now I have to re-compute. if that's the case. $16. $3.84 steward $6.88 dining $5.28 hotel.

We don't pay for cruises. Usually 100% free with some freeplay. All you have to do is lose about $800 in slots or get a few thousand points in the event that you win often. Then you will get offers. Make sure you use the same card if playing as a couple, so one guy gets all the points. Your offers will be for two. Free inside or outside, free drinks in casino, $50-$100 cash at casino for freeplay. Then each time thereafter you can cut the losses in half. I guess you can't call it free, but if I paid for the cruise, the drinks and did not get freeplay cash, it would way way more and no "free gambling" its very nice to gamble money and not care. You must pay all port taxes. The other great thing is we only have to put $100 deposit down on carnival and zero on RCL. So if you need to cancel, you just call and cancel right up to departure. So you make bookings that are a good deal far out in the future, but if conditions change and you cannot make it, just cancel. No big deal. Its so funny, so many people I know have told this but they refuse to gamble, which I get. Royal is alot better as they are very transparent on how many points you need to get a free cruise or dollars off. Usually 800 points for a free inside room on select sailings. I have done that on $200 if pretty lucky.

The question was raised as to what is the current tip allotment. Before the grats were $14.50. $3.55 steward 24% $6.25 dining 43% $4.70 hotel 33 percent Now at $18 it stands to reason $4.50 steward 24% $7.74 dining 43% $5.92 hotel 33%

Everyone is a big tipper from the keyboard.

Well that just it. They are already short handed. If some dont reup its gonna be a problem. I am sure they stewards are making more, but being worked to death is another thing altogether. On the 8 post covid cruises i have been on. Every one was severely short handed working their asses off.

Ok. I wasnt sure. I included them because they are tipped directly. Are bar also staff? I believe i read they were even though they also get tips.

Ahh man. I am about to make diamond. 4 drinks is more then enough for me. I get free drinks in casino. Can the vouchers be used in coco cay? Is there a price limit?

I believe steward gets the biggest chunk. I have to reverse engineer the other housekeeping salaries and so forth to come up with a better picture. 25% is what a crewmember on youtube said, backed up with my math. I cannot say for sure.

The suite lounge guy will give you whatever you want unopened. Beer, soda, water.

4 or 5? Diamond lounge plus 4 vouchers a day. I imagine they will scale that back too.

They should probably go to a 15 drink max like carnival. So many people get others drinks which drives up costs. But they are adjusting accordingly and raking in the cash.

Yes it does. You are not doing the math. their salary is posted on shiplife.org. Its $1360 a month. They have 25 rooms x $8 a room x 30 days is $6000 As you said they get alot of extra tips too and alot of rooms have 3 or 4 people but lets forget that. So $6000 plus $1360 is $7360. The real number is much higher. Near a couple thousand a week to clean rooms. Do you actually believe that? The answer is they share those tips with the whole housekeeping staff. They get the lions share but they all get tips. The food and beverage also share as does the other hotel staff. Pretty much and forward facing crewmember who you interact with that is not staff. Staff is photo, entertainment, guest services, medical, etc.

Well i assume you are saying the steward gets all the steward tips. Is this correct? If so just multiply 25 rooms x whatever you think they get by 2 per room and you will see how much there is to distribute. Btw there is also a separate line for the other hotel services, but those are not housekeeping positions. They go to a separate set of people. Its amazing when you start looking into it, how many positions there actually are on a ship.

So are you saying he gets to keep all the tips? That would be great to make $1500 a week. I wonder why they have a hard time finding employees and hire from poor countries. They make 3500 a month Thier salary is $1360. Which leaves $2140 a month in tips or $535 dollars in tips a week? Where does the other $1000 go.

This is off princess. all of these plus more share in the steward tip. The Housekeeping department is responsible for maintaining the highest level of cleanliness and service in guest staterooms, public areas, and open decks as well as providing laundry services to both guests and crew members. This department is also responsible for the movement of baggage on and off the ship and making sure the ship is ready for new guests each and every cruise. Entry-level positions within this department include Utility Cleaner, Accommodations Attendant, and Laundry Steward.

This is taken from princess site on a quick google. All of these jobs are tipped with the room steward money. The Housekeeping department is responsible for maintaining the highest level of cleanliness and service in guest staterooms, public areas, and open decks as well as providing laundry services to both guests and crew members. This department is also responsible for the movement of baggage on and off the ship and making sure the ship is ready for new guests each and every cruise. Entry-level positions within this department include Utility Cleaner, Accommodations Attendant, and Laundry Steward.

They only clean alot of things once a day on 2 day cleanings. You are correct that the trash is 1/2 full, make bed once, but it is the detail that suffers that can be caught in two visits, hair in bathroom etc. now when you add thr fact that you will miss days, due to your schedule conflicting with theirs, it really adds up, dishes and cups everywhere, wet towels, trash full, Again until you have done it, it sounds like an OK idea. Add to that the fact that you are still paying for two visits. They didnt cut the service charges in half.

Every crewmember that in someway works for us and also gets tips not food related or room related. Ie the guy who cleans the pool deck, vacuums the halls…. there are 3 levels of “crew” officers - self explanatory staff- such as guest services, photo, gift shop, entertainment, engineering, those that are salary only. Or salary plus commission. crew- housekeeping, food and beverage, casino etc. those that get tips. Quite a big number.