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  1. I get it..beyond the edge is infinity
  2. Has Celebrity announced the names of Edge III and IV? I know Edge II is the Celebrity Apex. Any thoughts on four-letter names which denote shape/angle/aspiration? Celebrity Axis ? (WWII connotations?) Celebrity Epic (NCL?) Other suggestions?
  3. We recently did Caribbean cruises on the Riviera and Silhouette. This was our fifth cruise on Oceania, and we are Elite Plus on Celebrity. Both cruises were excellent, but there are some interesting differences when you compare the experiences. THE SHIPS They are about the same age. Riviera entered service in 2012, and Silhouette in 2011. Silhouette is twice the size of Riviera (122,400 tons/2886 passengers vs 66,084 tons/1250 passengers). Yet they feel a full generation apart. Silhouette seems far more modern, and conceptually more advanced, then Riviera. Riviera is comfortable and homey. Silhouette is simply stunning. The biggest miss in the design of Riviera is the absence of a lively central hub. The Lobby on Silhouette rises several decks, and is surrounded by bars, lounges and restaurants. It is lively. Other modern ships, eg Viking, have a living central hub. Riviera does not. There is no promenade deck on Riviera. ACCOMODATION As we had a suite on Riviera, and verandah cabin on Silhouette, it is not fair to compare. As others have noted, storage space is somewhat limited in the S-Class cabins.The suite on Riviera was very well designed. Bedding, towels etc were far superior. FOOD Oceania claims "The Finest Cuisine At Sea". Celebrity also takes pride in its cuisine. This was my experience: Breakfast - Oceanview Cafe (Silhouette) was far, far superior to Terrace Cafe.(Riviera). Far more choice on Silhouette. For example, Silhouette had a large choice of Eggs Benedict each day (Salmon, Ham, Veg etc), Riviera only ham. Silhouette also innovated each day, eg a donut bar on one day. Lunch- Very poor on Oceania. Very limited choices. Silhouette had a very big choice. Also, island layout on Silhouette was far better. Also innovated at lunch, eg a gravlax bar one day. Food quality was equal on Silhouette and Riviera. Dinner - MDR choice and quality was equal. Both menus are somewhat limited. Speciality Restaurants - Far superior on Riviera. Jacques, Polo Grill and Toscana all outstanding food and service. On Silhouette, we had a very good steak at Lawn Club Grill, but Tuscan Grill was no better then MDR, and Murano was not as good as it used to be. Service hours - something always open and available on Silhouette, for example if you got back to the ship mid afternoon. This was a problem on Riviera. Mid afternoon, only option was a hamburger or room service. Tea at 4pm was not as good as it used to be. Coffee - Lattes at Baristas on Riviera were far better than the ones at Cafe Al Bacio on Silhouette. ENTERTAINMENT Some years ago, we had a terrible cruise on Reflection, where the music from the Miami DJs was so loud that you could not sit at the pool or walk through the lobby. We actually stayed away from Celebrity for a few years after that experience. Well, I am very pleased to say that the music on Silhouette at the pool, in the lobby, at the shows was lively but at a reasonable volume. The shows on Riviera tended to be more old-fashioned Broadway , whereas shows on Silhouette were more modern and innovative. SERVICE Excellent on both ships PAX On Silhouette, majority were born in the 1950's and 1940's. Perhaps just slightly older on Riviera. CHAIR HOGS Alive and well on Silhouette. On sea days, by 7am, ALL the loungers in the shade on the non-smoking side of the pool were covered in towels!! There was never a problem getting a shady lounger on Riviera. NET Both were excellent vacations. Each has some pros and cons. I would happily sail on either ship again.
  4. We recently did Caribbean cruises on the Riviera and Silhouette. This was our fifth cruise on Oceania, and we are Elite Plus on Celebrity. Both cruises were excellent, but there are some interesting differences when you compare the experiences. THE SHIPS They are about the same age. Riviera entered service in 2012, and Silhouette in 2011. Silhouette is twice the size of Riviera (122,400 tons/2886 passengers vs 66,084 tons/1250 passengers). Yet they feel a full generation apart. Silhouette seems far more modern, and conceptually more advanced, then Riviera. Riviera is comfortable and homey. Silhouette is simply stunning. The biggest miss in the design of Riviera is the absence of a lively central hub. The Lobby on Silhouette rises several decks, and is surrounded by bars, lounges and restaurants. It is lively. Other modern ships, eg Viking, have a living central hub. Riviera does not. There is no promenade deck on Riviera. ACCOMODATION As we had a suite on Riviera, and verandah cabin on Silhouette, it is not fair to compare. As others have noted, storage space is somewhat limited in the S-Class cabins.The suite on Riviera was very well designed. Bedding, towels etc were far superior. FOOD Oceania claims "The Finest Cuisine At Sea". Celebrity also takes pride in its cuisine. This was my experience: Breakfast - Oceanview Cafe (Silhouette) was far, far superior to Terrace Cafe.(Riviera). Far more choice on Silhouette. For example, Silhouette had a large choice of Eggs Benedict each day (Salmon, Ham, Veg etc), Riviera only ham. Silhouette also innovated each day, eg a donut bar on one day. Lunch- Very poor on Oceania. Very limited choices. Silhouette had a very big choice. Also, island layout on Silhouette was far better. Also innovated at lunch, eg a gravlax bar one day. Food quality was equal on Silhouette and Riviera. Dinner - MDR choice and quality was equal. Both menus are somewhat limited. Speciality Restaurants - Far superior on Riviera. Jacques, Polo Grill and Toscana all outstanding food and service. On Silhouette, we had a very good steak at Lawn Club Grill, but Tuscan Grill was no better then MDR, and Murano was not as good as it used to be. Service hours - something always open and available on Silhouette, for example if you got back to the ship mid afternoon. This was a problem on Riviera. Mid afternoon, only option was a hamburger or room service. Tea at 4pm was not as good as it used to be. Coffee - Lattes at Baristas on Riviera were far better than the ones at Cafe Al Bacio on Silhouette. ENTERTAINMENT Some years ago, we had a terrible cruise on Reflection, where the music from the Miami DJs was so loud that you could not sit at the pool or walk through the lobby. We actually stayed away from Celebrity for a few years after that experience. Well, I am very pleased to say that the music on Silhouette at the pool, in the lobby, at the shows was lively but at a reasonable volume. The shows on Riviera tended to be more old-fashioned Broadway , whereas shows on Silhouette were more modern and innovative. SERVICE Excellent on both ships PAX On Silhouette, majority were born in the 1950's and 1940's. Perhaps just slightly older on Riviera. CHAIR HOGS Alive and well on Silhouette. On sea days, by 7am, ALL the loungers in the shade on the non-smoking side of the pool were covered in towels!! There was never a problem getting a shady lounger on Riviera. NET Both were excellent vacations. Each has some pros and cons. I would happily sail on either ship again.
  5. Does anyone know why they added the very bumpy yellow strips ( about 2 ft wide) to the narrow sidewalk to the taxi stand? The problem is that it makes it far more difficult to pull your luggage, as the bumps work as an impediment to your progress, making a long walk even more difficult. Remember, when you disembark, you are loaded down with all your luggage.
  6. We just completed an outstanding 12 day cruise in the Caribbean on the Silhouette. We returned on Friday, and were pleased to see we would be docked at the new Terminal 25 in Ft Lauderdale. We had read a lot about how great it was, and looked forward to using it. Two important points of warning about disembarking this very badly designed facility: 1)The walk from the gangway to the area with the luggage is incredibly far. I do not see how older or disabled passengers can walk this very long distance. A moving walkway is needed. 2) Once you exit the terminal, the taxi stand is a very far distance away. To make matters worse, you need to cross a busy road to get to the taxis. And if all this is not bad enough, the sidewalk leading to the taxi stand has a bumpy yellow insert, which makes it very difficult to drag wheeled luggage. Surely the architects realized most passengers take taxis from the terminal, and are burdened with all their luggage!! It may be pretty, but it is very impractical for disembarking. I have not experienced it for embarkation.
  7. Thanks for a great review. Question - my wife and I like to spend a lot of time at the main pool area, but we have to be in the shade. The S Class ships have a lot of shade areas around the pool. Looking at pics of E class, I don't see shade. (Except the cabanas).Please advise. This would be a deal breaker for us. Is there shade at the Retreat pool?
  8. They need to rethink the main lobby. On Viking, they have turned this area into a vibrant, bright, useful Living Room space. While the Lalique stair case in R class is stunning, the lobby area is very enclosed and dead most of the time. On many other ships, the decks above the lobby have balconies with bars and restaurants which give life and light to the lobby area.
  9. Amongst others, we have done one cruise on Azamara, one on Crystal, five on Oceania and about 20 on Celebrity. Have enjoyed them all. However, we felt Crystal was too formal, and would not sail with them again. The experience on Azamara and Oceania is very similar. They are homey, comfortable, relaxing ships. Celebrity is a different proposition...less costly, more crowded, can be very loud, and a younger demographic. In my opinion, Celebrity ships are more stunning. However, with the new Edge, prices of Celebrity are close to Oceania!
  10. Our December Caribbean cruise was our fifth Oceania cruise, but the first on their newer ships. Overall, we were very satisfied with the experience. THE SHIP. Like the older R-Class ships, it is homey, spacious, traditional and very comfortable, rather than glitzy. There is little wow factor. Although the ship is only about 5 years old, it seemed dated. For example, it lacked electronic aids such as an app on your phone, or interactive screens with port and event information. THE CABIN We had a Penthouse 2. More storage than we could possibly use. Extremely comfortable pillows and bed. High quality bedding. Very well planned layout. Beautiful bathroom with seperate shower. Large walk-in closet. Clean and well maintained. Excellent service as well SERVICE Service was beyond excellent and very friendly. Seemed to be a well managed, happy crew. FOOD Oceania claims to have the Finest Cuisine at Sea. I have a mixed opinion on that. We ate twice at Polo Grill, Toscana and Jacques. Food, service, decor were excellent. We had three dinners in the MDR which were also good. Each night, essentially the same menu as the MDR is available at the Terrace Cafe (Self Service buffet), and we had a wonderful evening eating on the terrace while docked in San Juan. So here is the issue...lunch in the Terrace Cafe was very weak, with an extremely limited selection. Even Waves Grill does not offer a chicken sandwich. While the food in MDR was well prepared and presented, the selection was very limited. If you do not eat pork/bacon/pancetta or fish, the choices were absolutely minimal. Service hours were also an issue. The Terrace Cafe was open from noon till 2pm. The MDR from noon till 1.30. Waves 11.30 till 4pm. So if you spent a day at the beach, and returned late to the ship, your only option was Afternoon tea (4pm to 5pm) or room service. ENTERTAINMENT Never a strong point on Oceania. While most of the shows were energetic, they were nothing special, with one exception. On the last day, they had a special pre-dinner show, "World Beat", which was head and shoulders above their other shows...so it can be done. I also want to mention that we greatly enjoyed the classes in the Culinary Center (need to book before you cruise, as space is limited) and we had a wonderful artist-in-residence who ran a series of excellent sessions, which were packed. Also need to mention the outstanding enrichment lecturer, Cloeta Massie, a marine biologist who was one of the most entertaining and knowledgable lecturers I have experienced on land or sea. CONCLUSION A relaxing cruise experience on a very comfortable ship. Yes, we would book Oceania again.
  11. We recently disembarked the Riviera. We had an 11am flight from Miami. Our color (grey) was called promptly at 8am, and by 9am we were at our gate in Miami Airport. However, this was a Wednesday, and we were the only ship in port. We went to the lobby when our color was called, only to find there was quite a long line of people in the main lobby waiting to disembark the ship. However, the line moved fairly quickly. There was a long line of taxis available.
  12. We were going to book for the Caribbean cruise in February next year. However, this issue with the pool deck is a DEAL BREAKER for us. The whole point of a Caribbean cruise for us is to enjoy the open air on a shaded lounger on the pool deck. The infinity pool at the stern is not an option as apparently there is no shade. It sounds like keeping the roof closed is a mandate from HQ, and the staff at the pool are not empowered to meet the requests of passengers. What a pity. Everything else about Viking Ocean seems so good.:(
  13. We recently sailed on the Magic, and based on the tips in the original Tips thread, (post #13 and post #25 by Host Mick) we had an extension cord/surge protector in our luggage. Our luggage was not delivered to our cabin. At about 5:15pm a note was brought to our cabin saying there was something "unauthorized" in our luggage, and telling us to come to sort it out at the luggage depot, Deck 1, Forward before 6pm. They asked us to open our luggage. The culprit was the extension cord / surge protector, which was confiscated! Their concern is that its a fire hazard. We were given a receipt, and told we could reclaim it after passport and customs at the end of the cruise. At the end of the cruise, as we exited the terminal, there was a table piled high with dozens of confiscated extension cords! We gave them our receipt and retrieved our cord.
  14. The big concern is that they will obviously further decrease the space available for loungers at the pool. In the S Class, the cabanas are at the under-utilized Lawn area, and do not take space away from the overcrowded pool area.
  15. While I think it looks good, my real concern is the number of loungers and absence of shade at the main pool. The ship is similar in size to the S Class. Now think of the S Class pool area where most of one side is taken up by costly private cabanas. The other side has almost no shade, as its only covered by a narrow jogging track. In addition, on S class, there are hundreds of loungers on the upper deck surrounding the pool area. On this ship, it looks like the port side will not have loungers on the upper deck/jogging track. So the math is simple...less space for loungers on both the pool deck and the deck above the pool. That's going to be a huge problem on warm sea days! Furthermore, the limited shade areas is a huge problem :eek:
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