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Totally sucks, the OP is right, particularly for those who have booked already believing they needed to pay extra for Michaels this is a very raw deal indeed. Modern luxury...no is modern Dick Turpin robbery

Stand and deliver! :(

Whew! This is getting quite personal and very nasty. The facts are simple: Celebrity has made a business decision. Possibly the majority of customers agree with it. Possibly a large minority of customers are upset by it.

As the clear rules for formal nights were largely ignored, I can't believe that the rules for an ill defined Elegant Chic night will somehow be followed. It remains to be seen the effects of this change. Might I add that most of the snarky remarks I've seen are coming from those in favor of the change, maybe a reflection of their larger numbers.

DW and I have always gone our own way on the many cruises we've taken. We'll continue to seek the company of those to whom elegance and chicness come naturally. They'll be easy to spot, I'm sure. Their elegance will show itself in more ways than their mode of dress, I assure you

Stolen or not, having to pay the shipping kills it for me.

That would absolutely be the end of our sailing on Celebrity! :(

Whether the food is actually better in Blu or not isn't as important to us as the noise level and tumult in the MDR.

We book Aqua (and we usually sail in winter and have NEVER found Aqua prices to be less than Concierge!) for the quieter dining room.

Eliminate that and you eliminate us. We can't be the only ones.

We could live with a single major change, but the combination of several would at a minimum make us look elsewhere, probably Cunard and certainly the upper tier cruise lines. Friends just rave about Seabourne. Crystal and even Regent. Maybe we will be taking one regardless of what X does.

So, let me get this straight. I paid $2000 more for a CS than what the S2 was going for on my sailing. Fine, I was getting MC access. Now those who booked S1/S2 will get what I'm getting (Michael's) without ponying up that $2 grand?

 

In addition, after Nov. 16 people booking any suite category will get all 4 perks currently offered at the "Best" level? Including PREMIUM beverages?

 

Hmmmmm. Let's review .... I paid for access to MC, which was bundled into my CS fare. Every other advantage (butler, Luminae) is the same as sky suite guests. I have a CLASSIC bev pkg. that's included, but plan to upgrade to a premium beverage package - at additional cost - when I board.

 

On new bookings beginning Nov. 16, people booking any suite will get all perks included. Beginning Dec. 15 sky suites will get into MC without having to fork over anything extra. Have I got it right?

 

How about offering something for CS class? I would welcome a beverage upgrade to premium. Obviously RS and up already get all perks. We CS dwellers are being completely passed over.:(

The revolution always takes a toll on someone. I would be upset, too.

The obvious solution is to kick out the Zeniths. :D

That is an innovative solution. Good thinking. Besides, they tend to dress well and make people nervous

Weddings that incorporate a church service. I also accidentally grabbed my tuxedo jacket when getting ready for church one one Sunday. (It was dark and my tux was right next to my blazers.) I didn't realize my error until we were coming home and I was in the sun.

 

So the answer to your question is not Never! The answer to, "When did anyone ever wear a tuxedo or formal gown to a church service?!?" is at least 4 1/2 tines in my case. The half is because I only had the jacket on one of the times.

Funny. I was on my way to work one day and to my horror, I had grabbed the wrong suit jacket. Mismatched sox are bad enough. Mismatched suits are intolerable.:p In today's world many would not notice the discrepancy, but I returned home quickly and made the change.

Actually, tuxes are not properly worn prior to 6PM. At least that's what I was told way back when. It also explains the tux brand After Six

Jed was the head of the Clamped family in the TV program Beverly Hillbillies.

Sounds like he was a poor mountaineer, barely kept his family fed:D

As far as I know, formal dress was never required for air travel or grocery shopping, people just did it. The people against formal night just don't want to wear their "Sunday go to meetin clothes" As Jed Clampet used to call them.

There was a book written back in the 70s, I believe, called Dress for Success. The author had done research as to how people are perceived solely on the way they dress. I only remember one example but a man wearing a tan raincoat is treated better than one wearing a black raincoat. I couldn't tell you why, but I could make a good guess. Needless to say, the writer's point, based on considerable research, was the better dressed a person is, the better he will be treated. Times have certainly changed in the ensuing 40 years, but I would be willing to bet than a woman dressed smartly in a nice dress or suit will be treated better than one in shorts and a tank top. Is it fair or reasonable? Probably not, but clothes still make the man, I suspect. It certainly is my experience that is the case.

BTW who is Jed Clampett? :confused:

Backward :eek:

Well, may he's a catcher.:p And if that's his idea of chic, who are we to criticize?

The asterisk (or *) on the flyer at the start of the footer relates to the offer of all 4 perks, which is asterisked. The detail at the bottom of the flyer only relates to that offer, not to the changes announced in the leaflet.

Thanks. I see the light

Well this is good news for me.

 

We're booked in a Sky Suite on Connie in March.

I notice tat the small print says cruise must be booked on or after November 16. How will they control people who booked on November 15?

Different color key cards? Can't believe they'd go to such trouble. Good luck, Jules

We had access to MC last year and the joint was dead with a capital D. Two Zenith couples and seven of us in suites were the only participants during the times we visited . It was kind of amusing talking sometimes to only four or five people and at other times perhaps six or seven. Maybe we were just hitting the off hours, but it really seemed strange and after a few days, we preferred sitting in other venues.

Well you see it is like this. The hoi-poloi you refer to are patently trusted to make the correct choice whereas the peasants in inside cabins ? surely not [emoji12]

 

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I understand your point, but I think your terms are confused. Hoi poloi refers to the common people; hoi aristoi means the aristocrats

I'm pretty sure we will all still be able to compliment others who are dressed nicely even though formal night is now "evening chic" night! At least, I didn't read anything about "compliments are no longer allowed!" :)

My goodness, the "days that are gone forever" are "the old days when people dressed in tuxes and gowns" and have nothing to do with compliments being allowed.

It is nice to receive compliments from strangers who have nothing to gain from their comments. Two occasions stand out

Once. rather late in the evening, as we passed Customer Relations, one of the officers called us over and told us that every time he had seen us, we were dressed so nicely and he appreciated it..

The second occasion was back in the old days when people wore tuxes and gowns. We were standing on the steps , having our pictures taken (another thing we won't be doing) and as we descended. a woman came up and told us what a handsome couple were . (My wife is a beauty and I benefit from it) But as Jane 2357 noted, those days are gone forever.

My wife is a true Southern lady who always is quick to compliment whether it is a tie, a dress, a ring, or even a man's beard. It's nice to be in the company of such a gracious woman, and I love her for it.

I had no idea so many would have such a problem stepping into the twenty-first century! It's hilarious to me to see some of these comments. You can still be dressy and classy without a bustle and lorgnette! I'm older than most if you, and I'm very classy, never stuffy or outdated, never!

I don't doubt you're classy but as you live in San Diego, I must tell you a short story.

I worked there in the 1990s and one day while waiting for my wife, I wandered into the men's suits department of Nordstrom and struck up a conversation with the salesman during which he sadly shook his head and said 'These are the worst dressed people in the country."

That comment has stuck with me for twenty years. Selling suits in San Diego must be akin to selling refrigerators to the Eskimos

Cunard is a niche cruise line. That is why they have only three ships. I have been on QM2. Very interesting and on par with Celebrity, not above it. I would not book Cunard regularly because of their dress code. And that is why they have only three ships. The market for fussy is small.

Talk about snobbish. "On a par with Celebrity" It is to laugh.

- hope you like non stop transatlantic crossings, world cruises and the variety that just 3 ships brings.

And that is the only trouble with Cunard whose ships are the most beautiful of all. Limited choices are the problem

The reaction of my wife surprised me when I informed her of the change. She, who would not think of leaving the house with a hair out of place, merely said "OK, it'll be easier to pack" There is no question that she will dress elegantly on the Elegant Chic night because that's the way she dresses every night out, but now I have a question: why bother having any special night ? What purpose is served? Why not just tell people to dress in what they consider to be suitable clothes every night and let it go at that? No need to assign names to certain evenings.

Agree-I cringe when I see a man in a tux.

How uncomfortable.

No tux, suit or shirt and tie is uncomfortable if it's properly fitted. Men who complain about wearing them need to get a good tailor (or not try to squeeze into clothes they wore thirty years ago ;))

I think everyone should be able to wear what they want. After all, everyone needs to be comfortable, and to be able to pack light.

With that mentality anything goes. Great. Unfortunately, you're going to get what you hoped for. Glad you'll enjoy it, I won't.

And you're from Richmond. Oy vey, the world is going to end soon:p

Well even the lobster is dumbed down. It's nothing but a defrosted rubbery blob of meat the size of a prawn.

That's because crayfish don't grow as big as lobsters.

The use of the terms sophisticated and chic in relation to Celebrity cruisers bears further investigation which I will do once I get all the flavor from my gum :)

If Celebrity had ceased to exist this year, my bank account would be at least $30,000 fatter. Of course, I probably would have blown it someplace else.

So your enjoyment of your vacation is dependent on others, right?

To some extent people do affect my enjoyment on land and at sea. Are you so oblivious to your surroundings that you don't notice annoying behavior? Lucky you. We've had people set up portable speakers on their balcony, booming bad "music", for example. How about loud or even profane language at the next table. We've had to move on more than one occasion. There're more but I hope you get my drift