m steve Posted January 25, 2010 #301 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Both Princess and HAL have similar policies you don't find many CC members demanding Princess change their policy. Why so adament here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suse Posted January 25, 2010 #302 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I don't read Princess threads but sometimes I do read the Carnival threads. This subject gets much more heated over there. Not sure we're ever going to agree. As long as there are smokers, and it's legal of course, this will be an issue. The very rare occasions when I am near a smoker leave me with stinky hair and clothing and I would rather not smell it. I loved my last cruise except for this. That's all. Best wishes to all.................. Susie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl513 Posted January 25, 2010 #303 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I did not and have not directed a post to you. Purposely. I don't understand why you'd reply to a conversation between myself and others. :confused: On this forum sail7seas is one of the "others" ... as am I. I'm confused. I've never had to address multiple posters while communicating with one individual. On this forum you are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea King Posted January 25, 2010 #304 Share Posted January 25, 2010 On this forum sail7seas is one of the "others" ... as am I. On this forum you are not. right on point:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispb Posted January 25, 2010 #305 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I wish people would stop banging on about 20% of the population being smokers. This may (or not) be true of the US BUT there is a big world out there and I would say percentages for many other countries are probably much higher. Believe it or not, other nationalities cruise too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hulamoon Posted January 25, 2010 #306 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I think the concern is, even if 20% of people smoke as the two only mass market lines that allow smoking in all cabins and balconies the percentages will grow on these ships. It seems to some it has and I would say I was in the 60% hallway on the last cruise. Thank goodness I figured an alternative route to get places and I always went around the casino because when it is busy it is impossible to hold my breath that long. One way to avoid it is to spend a lot of time in the spa, but I don't think you can sleep there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainmare Posted January 25, 2010 #307 Share Posted January 25, 2010 As I mentioned, last cruise our cabin was very smokey when we entered. We are sailing on the Ryndam on Sunday. I just called ship services, before I could even ask the representative said "would you like to request a deep cleaning?" I gave her my booking number and she said that that request was noted for our cruise. I'll let you know how things turn out. I did mention that I read about being able to request this on cruise critic, as soon as I mentioned cruise critic, she then asked if I wanted deep cleaning. I would never have thought to ask before--at least now I know that the cabin will be clean when we get in. Thank you Ya YA and thank you cruise critic!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakalina Posted January 25, 2010 #308 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Doesn't it seem a little selfish and silly to have the stewards go to all that extra trouble when you don't even know if smokers were previously in the cabin you will be in? Of course, once onboard if one finds a stinky cabin then have it dealt with. Anticipating you will have a problem seems to me to waste both money and manpower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Ya Cruiser Posted January 25, 2010 #309 Share Posted January 25, 2010 You're welcome mountainmare I'm happy to help. YaYa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Ya Cruiser Posted January 25, 2010 #310 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Hi Kakalina, I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on the deep cleaning issue. Even if smokers are not the previous passengers in the cabin, it does get into the upholstery and carpets and does linger, so for those of us with serious lung issues/allergies, it can be a problem; however my understanding is that unless you specifically request it, the deep cleaning only happens if smokers have been in the cabin directly before you. I agree it is time consuming and more work for the stewards, but, they don't do it in all the cabins and I would assume people would only go to the trouble of requesting it should they need it. Anyhow, it's nice to have an option and be able to truly enjoy our cabin. Cheers, YaYa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainmare Posted January 25, 2010 #311 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Kaklina--before our last cruise I would have agreed with you. We could not even be in our cabin or have our luggage in our cabin (or be out on the balcony because of the ashtrays and spilled ashes and butts). This made even more work for our cabin steward because he had to try to clean the room while the luggage was being delivered. All I want is a clean room that doesn't smell like smoke and does not have full dirty ashtrays when I first enter the room. I went into a coughing spell that lasted into the evening, so no I do not think that my request is selfish and I do not feel silly. I am not asking that they deep clean the room if a smoker has not been there on the previous cruise, I am simply asking that if it does smell of smoke then please take special care to remove the smell and clean up the ash trays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usha Posted January 25, 2010 #312 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Anticipating you will have a problem seems to me to waste both money and manpower. IMO, it's allowing passengers to smoke in the cabins that seems to be the real waste of both money & manpower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realnurse2 Posted January 25, 2010 #313 Share Posted January 25, 2010 As I mentioned, last cruise our cabin was very smokey when we entered.We are sailing on the Ryndam on Sunday. I just called ship services, before I could even askthe representative said "would you like to request a deep cleaning?" I gave her my booking number and she said that that request was noted for our cruise. I'll let you know how things turn out. I did mention that I read about being able to request this on cruise critic, as soon as I mentioned cruise critic, she then asked if I wanted deep cleaning. I would never have thought to ask before--at least now I know that the cabin will be clean when we get in. Thank you Ya YA and thank you cruise critic!!! Thank you for this information! I will request a "deep cleaning" of my stateroom, through HAL Ship Services, prior to my next cruise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANSalberg Posted January 25, 2010 #314 Share Posted January 25, 2010 imo, it's allowing passengers to smoke in the cabins that seems to be the real waste of both money & manpower. amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suse Posted January 25, 2010 #315 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Sail is my friend. She can speak for me, although she was not, anytime at all. I appreciate her kindness. She's great!:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakalina Posted January 25, 2010 #316 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Debbie and MountainMare: I stand corrected. I certainly understand the need when one has lung or other respiratory problems. It is needed. I just thought it presumptious for those without need to arbitrarily think they must have it because it can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travalerie Posted January 25, 2010 #317 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Debbie and MountainMare: I stand corrected. I certainly understand the need when one has lung or other respiratory problems. It is needed. I just thought it presumptious for those without need to arbitrarily think they must have it because it can be done. Add allergies in there as well. Allergic reactions can be very troublesome and for some very severe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pms4104 Posted January 26, 2010 #318 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Just wondering ... Because some/many have physical issues that preclude them occupying a cabin where there has been smoking ... would it be reasonable for HAL to prohibit in-cabin smoking? Absent a no-smoking-in-the-cabin policy, would it be reasonable for HAL to add a deep-cleaning surcharge to passengers who do smoke in their cabin? And, yes, with that scenario, every smoker's cabin would be deep-cleaned on turnaround day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Ya Cruiser Posted January 26, 2010 #319 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Hi Trish, I appreciate your support - and if someone doesn't need it, then I would hope they wouldn't abuse the priviledge, but for those of us that do, it is very much appreciated. Just think - only 41 more sleeps to go!! See you soon, Debbie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted January 26, 2010 #320 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Sail is my friend. She can speak for me, although she was not, anytime at all. I appreciate her kindness. She's great!:) Thank you, Suse. You're a sweet lady. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz chic Posted January 26, 2010 #321 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Hi Trish, I appreciate your support - and if someone doesn't need it, then I would hope they wouldn't abuse the priviledge, but for those of us that do, it is very much appreciated. Just think - only 41 more sleeps to go!! See you soon, Debbie I can't imagine why in the world anyone would request it if they didn't need it....please:rolleyes:. Nice way to squirm out of a comment that someone knows was just wrong to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 26, 2010 #322 Share Posted January 26, 2010 This is a very informative thread! I have to admit somewhere around page 6, I started wondering if I have made a mistake booking our next cruise on HAL. This is my first time with HAL and we had heard such nice things about this cruise line. It just never occurred to me that the smoking thing was such a big issue! We have been on several cruises with other lines and have been able to avoid smoking areas, enjoy our balcony and have a cabin that does not make us sick. Smoke is a big health problem for us. We are leaving in a few weeks on the Westerdam (too late to change now). We have 3 and 1/2 days at sea. Are the areas around the pool very smokey? What about the outdoor eating areas? We have an aft veranda - was that a huge mistake? I was so looking forward to being on the balcony and watching the wake! I am freaking out a little now. I will request the deep cleaning - the residual smell can make me physically ill within hours. I totally did not know this about HAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted January 26, 2010 #323 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Are the areas around the pool very smokey? What about the outdoor eating areas? There's no smoking at all at the Lido pool. Smoking is kept to one side of the outside aft eating area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catl331 Posted January 26, 2010 #324 Share Posted January 26, 2010 IMO, it's allowing passengers to smoke in the cabins that seems to be the real waste of both money & manpower. Apparently HAL is still calculating that it would cost them more money to ban smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanita462 Posted January 26, 2010 #325 Share Posted January 26, 2010 We have only once had an incredibly smelly cabin from smoking - it took 3 afternoons with the ionization machine to clear the air - we were not allowed in the cabin for the 4 hours each day that the machine ran. Since they were sea days it was a real nuisance. I will be requesting a deep cleaning if the previous pax were smokers - did not know that you could do that. Thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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