mpk218 Posted June 18, 2010 #176 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Don, not only are you playing the Thought Police but you are policing English Composition as well. So...why did you feel the need to bring a sexual references into it? Sexual reference ??? How do I always miss that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMH15 Posted June 18, 2010 #177 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Sexual reference ??? How do I always miss that . I couldn't see any either... thought it was just me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnootieTootie Posted June 18, 2010 #178 Share Posted June 18, 2010 I think that the poster meant to say "racial" not "sexual". Sometimes my mind also thinks one thing, and types another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartbda Posted June 18, 2010 #179 Share Posted June 18, 2010 I think that the poster meant to say "racial" not "sexual". Sometimes my mind also thinks one thing, and types another. I think that's called a Freudian slip.:p:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare steamboats Posted June 18, 2010 #180 Share Posted June 18, 2010 If you have followed the debate on this thread between several Schengen/EU-citizens, you know that it is NOT the law. Besides: what "European law"? We are talking about Schengen-legislation here. Schengen or not Schengen, anyway each person has to have a proper travel document when in a foreign country. And even for traveling within the Schengen countries you need to have a proper travel document although there are no border controls anymore. Even if you´re a citizen of a Schengen country you have to carry a proper travel document outside of your home country. That IS law! steamboats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Music City Posted June 18, 2010 #181 Share Posted June 18, 2010 I think that the poster meant to say "racial" not "sexual". Sometimes my mind also thinks one thing, and types another. No, I meant to sexual. How do you think the term "sucks" came about? "You suck" is an abbreviation of accusing someone of performing fellatio. I was busting the poster that implied the OP was racist for being a hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnootieTootie Posted June 18, 2010 #182 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Oh my, I am covering my ears and eyes in embarrassment :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooder Posted June 18, 2010 #183 Share Posted June 18, 2010 No, I meant to sexual. How do you think the term "sucks" came about? "You suck" is an abbreviation of accusing someone of performing fellatio. I was busting the poster that implied the OP was racist for being a hypocrite. Actually, it is believed to have derived from street racing. Slower cars were said to be left sucking exhaust fumes from the faster cars. :rolleyes: And, personally, I commend the poster for asking the significance of the pickpockets' skin color. The OP said it, it is reasonable to ask what it means. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uniall Posted June 18, 2010 #184 Share Posted June 18, 2010 First, please allow me to divulge, despite the facts, that I'm an attorney in Illinois (state & federal courts) and retired Assistant Attorney General, I have no special knowledge of the current maritime, international, or passport control laws, especially in our super security times. Therefore, this information is not intended, nor should it be used, as legal advice. Like everyone, when I go ashore, I rely on the "documents needed" recomendations of NCL. That's why we usually leave our passports in the cabin safe and we each carry copies of both our passports, unless NCL has said "passports required" ashore (e.g. Russia). That said, I know that law enforcement begins with non lawyers from the bureacratic, police, and ship's crew ranks, who may have imperfect or incorrect knowledge of the law. Since, NCL had seen and scanned the passenger's passports and IDs, upon intial boarding, they had actual knowledge of proper documentation for rentry at the final disembarkation port. Thus, I suspect (but don't know) the decsion by NCL to remove the passenger was based upon an incorrect interpretation of the law but a decsion that was forseeable in these toubled times. If I'd been in this situation, once back on board, I would never have informed NCL of my passport loss and would have stayed aboard until the disembarkation port, enjoying the ship's venues. I would have followed the maxim: "what THEY don't know, can't hurt ME." I would have begun the loss notification process by email from the ship. Then, I would have taken necessary document replacement steps, upon arrival in the final disembarkation port. I don't intend any disparagement of the victims. In a crisis, no one is thinking with complete clarity. I'm attempting to suggest a plan for others who may be confronted by a similar situation, in the future. Respectfully, John (Uniall) PS Most US states issue ID cards as well as driver's licenses. We carry our state IDs ashore and leave our driver's licenses and emergency use only credit cards in the safe with the passports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iheartbda Posted June 18, 2010 #185 Share Posted June 18, 2010 No, I meant to sexual. How do you think the term "sucks" came about? "You suck" is an abbreviation of accusing someone of performing fellatio. I was busting the poster that implied the OP was racist for being a hypocrite. Nah, I'm still going with Freudian slip.:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinlizzy Posted June 18, 2010 #186 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Actually, it is believed to have derived from street racing. Slower cars were said to be left sucking exhaust fumes from the faster cars. :rolleyes: Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. That's exactly where it comes from. To the OP - too much information. You should have thought the problem through on your own instead of running to the employees for help. Never fails to amaze me how many people in this world are content being led around by the nose hairs. Pay attention to your surroundings next time. You would think the ships were adult daycares for pete's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBayern Posted June 19, 2010 #187 Share Posted June 19, 2010 Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. That's exactly where it comes from. To the OP - too much information. You should have thought the problem through on your own instead of running to the employees for help. Never fails to amaze me how many people in this world are content being led around by the nose hairs. Pay attention to your surroundings next time. You would think the ships were adult daycares for pete's sake. This is a nasty und unnecessary post. I work in the hospitality industry and airline business for a long time now. Passengers think "I am sure they have dealt with this situation before, let's ask what they would/can do". And yes... if somebody is ill in my hotel, I do know which doctor to ring. When I was still working at the airport as a checkin- and gate supervisor, I dealt with lost/stolen/expired passports all the time, multiple times a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fin Posted June 20, 2010 #188 Share Posted June 20, 2010 I think that the poster meant to say "racial" not "sexual". Sorta like earthquake and hurricane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Smokeyham Posted June 20, 2010 #189 Share Posted June 20, 2010 Perhaps a lesson which we can take from the situation is to think through what we would do if we were in the situation where our passport and credit card(s) had been lost or stolen, in a foreign port. Perhaps a better option than initially reporting this siuation to the ship's staff would be to work on getting the credit card(s) cancelled, and also on researching the information about the embassy at the next port (hours, location, etc.) so you can have a day to deal with the situation upon arriving at the next port. One other lesson I have taken from this thread is to use one credit card for the on board account, and to lock that credit card in the room safe, while taking a different credit card ashore. That way, if the shoreside credit card is stolen, and needs to be cancelled, I'm still able to make charges on board. Whatever happened, it sounds like a horrible experience for the OP. Let's hope we can all learn from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocap Posted July 1, 2010 #190 Share Posted July 1, 2010 The OP was advised to write to CC by the members of a long running thread on the main UK review site. The same thread contains information of how other cruise lines have dealt with similar problems. Many pickpockets are immigrants to Europe from N. Africa and Eastern nations. Boat people from places such as Morocco arrive frequently, and many more displaced persons are trafficked through Europe. Most of these will need a passport, and there will always be a "Mr Big" to organise this. Wherever there are crowds, these stateless people will gather, and look for easy pickings. Ports have been notorious for this for centuries. Jo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCL_Cruiser Posted July 1, 2010 #191 Share Posted July 1, 2010 You all realize that it's been 17 days, and the OP hasn't been back to post again, even once...save your breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocap Posted July 1, 2010 #192 Share Posted July 1, 2010 You all realize that it's been 17 days, and the OP hasn't been back to post again, even once...save your breath. I think she probably prefers to post on the UK site, which is still very much alive and less critical. Jo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hat776 Posted July 1, 2010 #193 Share Posted July 1, 2010 I think she probably prefers to post on the UK site, which is still very much alive and less critical.Jo. First of all - Which UK site are you talking about ? Secondly - I don't think pick pockets are just in Europe. Some cities are more notorious but I think they exist in any city where there are crowds. When we were in Lourdes, France which is a religious pilgramage town, there were police patrolling the main areas where crowds gather because of the pick pockets. The trouble is that if your passport/credit cards are stolen when you are on holiday it can be a disaster , if they are stolen in your home town it is an inconvenience. Presuming the OP was being sincere - NCL could have been more helpful. On the newsletter there is always the name, address, tel. number of the local agent. NCL could have phoned him and instructed him to come and pick up the husband. We always leave our passports on board but I never thought what a problem it would be if we had to miss the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hat776 Posted July 1, 2010 #194 Share Posted July 1, 2010 First of all - Which UK site are you talking about ? Secondly - I don't think pick pockets are just in Europe. Some cities are more notorious but I think they exist in any city where there are crowds. When we were in Lourdes, France which is a religious pilgramage town, there were police patrolling the main areas where crowds gather because of the pick pockets. The trouble is that if your passport/credit cards are stolen when you are on holiday it can be a disaster , if they are stolen in your home town it is an inconvenience. Presuming the OP was being sincere - NCL could have been more helpful. On the newsletter there is always the name, address, tel. number of the local agent. NCL could have phoned him and instructed him to come and pick up the husband. We always leave our passports on board but I never thought what a problem it would be if we had to miss the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paiagirl Posted July 1, 2010 #195 Share Posted July 1, 2010 First of all - Which UK site are you talking about ? Probably this: Version:1.0 StartHTML:0000000105 EndHTML:0000002451 StartFragment:0000002292 EndFragment:0000002415 http://www.cruises.co.uk/674-questions_answers/7489-barcelona_pickpockets_beware.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hat776 Posted July 2, 2010 #196 Share Posted July 2, 2010 First of all - Which UK site are you talking about ? Probably this: Version:1.0 StartHTML:0000000105 EndHTML:0000002451 StartFragment:0000002292 EndFragment:0000002415 http://www.cruises.co.uk/674-questions_answers/7489-barcelona_pickpockets_beware.html Thanks. When someone mentioned the UK site I thought there was a UK version of CC !!!! Unfortunately there are still some American posters who seem to look down on us Europeans and seem to be highly critical with phrases like "european hygene leaves much to be desired" "european standards are lower" "cruise expectations are lower for Europeans" "european hotels are not up to US standard" and that is why so many Brits feel more at ease on the UK forum. It's such a pity that these prejudices cloud some threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globaliser Posted July 2, 2010 #197 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Unfortunately there are still some American posters who seem to look down on us Europeans ...What, you mean "American" isn't always "the best"? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooder Posted July 2, 2010 #198 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Thanks. When someone mentioned the UK site I thought there was a UK version of CC !!!! Unfortunately there are still some American posters who seem to look down on us Europeans and seem to be highly critical with phrases like "european hygene leaves much to be desired" "european standards are lower" "cruise expectations are lower for Europeans" "european hotels are not up to US standard" and that is why so many Brits feel more at ease on the UK forum. It's such a pity that these prejudices cloud some threads. This is so sad to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meg50 Posted July 2, 2010 #199 Share Posted July 2, 2010 You all realize that it's been 17 days, and the OP hasn't been back to post again, even once...save your breath. yes she has, and her posts have been deleted. there's comment on same further up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooder Posted July 2, 2010 #200 Share Posted July 2, 2010 What, you mean "American" isn't always "the best"? ;) If it's any consolation, the "ugly American" probably comes from an inferiority complex. We (my generation at least, not sure what is taught nowadays) were brought up thinking that UK and European art and culture were superior, but we got "everything else" right. LOL. I prefer to enjoy the differences when I travel and not think in terms of inferior or superior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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