status: days at sea vs number of cruises

[cruisenfever]

Geez If you want to really make it fair, then why not just just have C&A levels based on prior spending. 1 point for every dollar spent on past cruises. Everything included, price of cruise, bar , shops, excusions, specialty resaurants. Exclude the cash advances at the casino, since they have their own high roller deal.

Just because someone takes a 3 or 4 day cruise, does not mean they spend less than someone on a 7 nighter, or more.

Right now the rules are what they are. why should you knock or penalize someone who can go on short cruises. everyone has the same opportunity. If one does not take advantage of it, whose fault is it??

Find something more worthwhile to complain about.

This is where the difference is and it has absolutely nothing to do with money. Those that live close to a cruise port and can drive there have a greater opportunity of doing more cruises (and shorter get aways) than those that have to fly to a port. With that being said.........then not everyone has the same opportunity.

[curley23]

This is where the difference is and it has absolutely nothing to do with money. Those that live close to a cruise port and can drive there have a greater opportunity a of doing more cruises (and shorter get aways) than those that have to fly to a port. With that being said.........then not everyone has the same opportunity.

 

Oh Really?? When did planes stop flying?? Seems to me that someone can fly to a port in a few hours just as someone can drive to a port that is several hours away.

Everyone DOES have the same opprtunity, it is those who chose not to take it. It may be more convenient for some, however everyone has the opportunity, there is no greater one.

[CruiseMore1]

So, go book some short cruises and rack up more points! So what if someone pays more or less than I do for the same cruise in the same accommodations - is that fair?

 

Why worry and whine about it? Just book the cruise you want and ENJOY!

 

LaDawn

I'd rather be cruising!

[thomarvin]

I do enjoy the cruises that I take. But I would also like the perks of Diamond status. However living in the northeast, it is harder (but i know not impossible) to get to the ports to take the 3 or 4 day to get to this status. Where as those that live on the FL coast could take that week-end get-away. And so are able to get to Diamond or above quicker than I am able to. I could do the cruises, its the air fare to get to do the cruises that would break the bank.

[RSGS315]

I would prefer that they did that instead of counting the cruises, as we never did a shorter cruise than 7 nights and many 14 day or longer cruises since 1980.

We are now Diamond Plus with 36 cruises, but many more sea days because of our long cruises. They didn't give double credit in those days for longer cruises.

 

Ginnie

[rubrrick]

Well, I'm not holding my breath......as come January 1st, RCCL have said (and, you bet, it's another rumor) that they will be changing how tier level status is arrived at.

 

What all of that means ......... I have no clue!:D

 

So, go out and enjoy your cruise, and it does not matter what tier level you are at........Royal Caribbean will treat you well!!:)

 

If they don't........well, there is Carnival, Princess, DCL, Crystal, NCL, and a bunch of other cruise lines that are there to take your money!!

 

Rick

[EVALUATOR]

Finally a simpler way...

 

General formula for cruise credits

 

For the general credit equation ax3 + bx2 + cx + d = 0, if (2b3 − 9abc + 27a2d)2 − 4(b2 − 3ac)3 > 0, the general formulas for the roots, in terms of the coefficients, are as follows:[12]

[Wilda]

Oh Really?? When did planes stop flying?? Seems to me that someone can fly to a port in a few hours just as someone can drive to a port that is several hours away.

Everyone DOES have the same opprtunity, it is those who chose not to take it. It may be more convenient for some, however everyone has the opportunity, there is no greater one.

 

I wonder if you would still feel that way if the majority of cruise ships sailed out on NYC and only a few cruises sailed out of FL. My guess is there would be a different perspective when you throw in the additional cost of airfare as well as convenience.

 

I am all in favor of racking up credits per night. Princess has a loyalty program that factors in either/or.

[Ocean Boy]

Would you also make adjustments for when the cruise is taken,given that the price you pay on a per diem basis will vary considerably depending on the dates you sail? In other words will you award the same value to someone who cruises during the peak season that you award to someone who sails when prices and demand are lower. Will you give the same credits to someone who books an 11 night cruise and pays full fare as someone who books that same 11 night cruise during a sale and gets a discounted rate, or someone who books early when the price is relatively low as opposed to a person who books later when the price for the same category room has risen significantly. How about the suite guest who books when prices are at their lowest and the suite ends up costing less than an outside room with verandah?:confused:

Things aren't necessarily as simple as you might like to portray them. In the final analysis, determining what system to use is the sole prerogative of RCI and we can complain all we want, can suggest all sorts of alternative methods, but only they can and will decide.

Exaclty, I am paying almost twice as much for 7 nights on Oasis as I did for 8 nights on Independence. I'll be getting the same number of credits. The program is what it is.

[Ocean Boy]

I wonder if you would still feel that way if the majority of cruise ships sailed out on NYC and only a few cruises sailed out of FL. My guess is there would be a different perspective when you throw in the additional cost of airfare as well as convenience.

 

I am all in favor of racking up credits per night. Princess has a loyalty program that factors in either/or.

 

You could do a 4/3 night back to back and get two credits for a 7 night cruise and only have to buy one set of plane tickets.

[PH8]

Finally a simpler way...

 

General formula for cruise credits

 

For the general credit equation ax3 + bx2 + cx + d = 0, if (2b3 − 9abc + 27a2d)2 − 4(b2 − 3ac)3 > 0, the general formulas for the roots, in terms of the coefficients, are as follows:[12]

hahaha.You crack me up...........:D:D:D

[PH8]

I,am one of those who no doubt became DP because of all those darn 3 night cruises:eek::eek::eek: I have been harassed on these boards,esp by one person because of it.........

 

Hey~~first of all,I didn't make the rules...RCCL did........

 

and second(Believe it or not:rolleyes:),we don't cruise just to get more credits........we cruise to get away for a weekend....It really can be cheaper than a hotel on the beach or Disney for 3 nights.....

 

and lastly~~ we take those 3 nighters cuz right now in our stage of life,my husband can't take time off from work and we really don't have the extra money required for a lot of 7 nighters......

 

This argument has been rehashed on here over and over.:rolleyes:.......gets kinda old......

[curley23]

I wonder if you would still feel that way if the majority of cruise ships sailed out on NYC and only a few cruises sailed out of FL. My guess is there would be a different perspective when you throw in the additional cost of airfare as well as convenience.

 

I am all in favor of racking up credits per night. Princess has a loyalty program that factors in either/or.

 

First of all, I could care less about loyalty programs, as that is not why I choose one line or another. A few free drinks is not important to me.

Second, the majority of the cruises we have taken have not been out of Florida. I prefer cruises out of SJU. I have also gone to NYC and Boston. If we want to go on a particular cruise, we go.

If and when we do go on short cruises out of FL, it is just like someone who lives up north and has their getaway for a few days there, maybe in the mountains, maybe at a golf resort, etc etc. Hec no is stopping anyone from moving to FL if cruising is so important.

I try to put things into perspective. People get jealous cause it may not be convenient for them to rack up their credits cause they live 1500 miles from the port. Some have said $$ has nothing to do with it. It has everything to do with it for most people. Why does RC give suite pax 2 credits. What if they started giving an inside cabin that cost $600 for the week a half credit and a D1 that costs $1200 a full credit??

I just say if you want it fair for everyone, base the whole thing on dollars spent. Then no one can bi*ch that some have it better than some others.

[cruisenfever]

Oh Really?? When did planes stop flying?? Seems to me that someone can fly to a port in a few hours just as someone can drive to a port that is several hours away.

Everyone DOES have the same opprtunity, it is those who chose not to take it. It may be more convenient for some, however everyone has the opportunity, there is no greater one.

Yes.......really!! :p Last time I checked, there were no cruises departing out of the port of Cleveland nor were there any ships cruising Lake Erie. So, we have to fly to a port which adds to the total cost of the cruise. If we have to drive to a port it's at least an 8-10 hour drive. Those that live close to the port do not have the added expense of a flight nor the long drive.

 

So, again, we DO NOT have the same opportunity to take short weekend cruises like those that live close to a port do.

I wonder if you would still feel that way if the majority of cruise ships sailed out on NYC and only a few cruises sailed out of FL. My guess is there would be a different perspective when you throw in the additional cost of airfare as well as convenience.

 

I am all in favor of racking up credits per night. Princess has a loyalty program that factors in either/or.

Great observation.:D

[dnwside]

I have never understood why on these boards everyone worries so much about what everyone else gets on a cruise. As long as I get what I pay for you can have what you pay for and be happy about it. Our first cruise was booked as a 4 day because I wasn't sure about cruising. We got a junior suit because we are spoiled and wanted something better. We didn't know about C&A benifits or this board till we cruised. Still don't care about C&A actually cause how many caps can you use. We book acruise for relaxation not to collect credits. I hope everyone gets what they pay for on a cruise and when the cruise line does something extra for us it may just keep us around.

[Ocean Boy]

This is where the difference is and it has absolutely nothing to do with money. Those that live close to a cruise port and can drive there have a greater opportunity of doing more cruises (and shorter get aways) than those that have to fly to a port. With that being said.........then not everyone has the same opportunity.

 

Yes.......really!! :p Last time I checked, there were no cruises departing out of the port of Cleveland nor were there any ships cruising Lake Erie. So, we have to fly to a port which adds to the total cost of the cruise. If we have to drive to a port it's at least an 8-10 hour drive. Those that live close to the port do not have the added expense of a flight nor the long drive.

 

So, again, we DO NOT have the same opportunity to take short weekend cruises like those that live close to a port do.

 

Great observation.:D

I thought you said it had nothing to do with money.:confused:

[EVALUATOR]

Yes.......really!! :p Last time I checked, there were no cruises departing out of the port of Cleveland nor were there any ships cruising Lake Erie. So, we have to fly to a port which adds to the total cost of the cruise. If we have to drive to a port it's at least an 8-10 hour drive. Those that live close to the port do not have the added expense of a flight nor the long drive.

 

So, again, we DO NOT have the same opportunity to take short weekend cruises like those that live close to a port do.

 

There are two cows on the Promenade of the Freedom of the Seas.

 

Cow one was from Florida.

 

Cow two was from California.

 

Although cow two was supposed to be a happy cow, it often complained to cow one about the ease of cruising from Florida.

 

Do you know what cow one said to cow two?

 

Moooooooove.:D

 

 

Lebron did, and is now a member of Carnival's loyalty program.

[bluegirlum]

You could do a 4/3 night back to back and get two credits for a 7 night cruise and only have to buy one set of plane tickets.

 

Exactly what I was thinking!

 

You just need to decide why you cruise? If your primary concern is the credits, make it work for you. If you don't care about the ship or ports until you reach D or D+, then hop on Majesty for 2 cruises in one week.

 

But if you like Liberty or Oasis, then you're stuck with that.

 

We live in the Midwest and we enjoy cruising. If we get extra perks for it, great. We don't expect anything other than a nice time. We could probably become D+ on the Badger Express on Lake Michigan if we wanted to. I don't begrudge anyone who can take lots of short cruises. If I could hop on Majesty every weekend, I would!

 

These posts always amaze me. But maybe one day, Adam Goldstein will be reading and say, you know what, you're right. I've been wrong about this all along. The 1565th post on this has finally convinced me!! :eek:

[curley23]

I thought you said it had nothing to do with money.:confused:

 

Great work OB. You beat me to it.

[bluegirlum]

There are two cows on the Promenade of the Freedom of the Seas.

 

Cow one was from Florida.

 

Cow two was from California.

 

Although cow two was supposed to be a happy cow, it often complained to cow one about the ease of cruising from Florida.

 

Do you know what cow one said to cow two?

 

Moooooooove.:D

 

 

Lebron did, and is now a member of Carnival's loyalty program.

 

HAHAHA!

 

Besides, happy cows are really from WISCONSIN!

[Ocean Boy]

There are two cows on the Promenade of the Freedom of the Seas.

 

Cow one was from Florida.

 

Cow two was from California.

 

Although cow two was supposed to be a happy cow, it often complained to cow one about the ease of cruising from Florida.

 

Do you know what cow one said to cow two?

 

Moooooooove.:D

 

 

Lebron did, and is now a member of Carnival's loyalty program.

 

You are a riot today!:D:D:D

[EVALUATOR]

If the cruise credit system confuses you, figure this one out.

 

An elderly couple that we cruise with frequently has 23 cruise credits. They are going on the Oasis in September. They decided to book a short Monarch cruise in August.

 

Not so they can be D+ on the Oasis, but so they can become D+, and then be able to try other cruise lines.:confused::confused::confused:

[Ocean Boy]

Exactly what I was thinking!

 

You just need to decide why you cruise? If your primary concern is the credits, make it work for you. If you don't care about the ship or ports until you reach D or D+, then hop on Majesty for 2 cruises in one week.

 

But if you like Liberty or Oasis, then you're stuck with that.

 

We live in the Midwest and we enjoy cruising. If we get extra perks for it, great. We don't expect anything other than a nice time. We could probably become D+ on the Badger Express on Lake Michigan if we wanted to. I don't begrudge anyone who can take lots of short cruises. If I could hop on Majesty every weekend, I would!

 

These posts always amaze me. But maybe one day, Adam Goldstein will be reading and say, you know what, you're right. I've been wrong about this all along. The 1565th post on this has finally convinced me!! :eek:

 

Honestly, people are so wrapped up in this cruise credit thing. I just pick the cruise and ship that I want to be on and call it a day. Some of the perks are an added benefit but other than the balcony discount and a few free drinks it isn't like these credits are leading to free cruises or something.

[cruisenfever]

I thought you said it had nothing to do with money.:confused:

My reference was to this statement...."1 point for every dollar spent on past cruises. Everything included, price of cruise, bar , shops, excusions, specialty resaurants".

 

If we have to fly to a port our airfare is not included in "dollars spent" nor is the gas we would have to buy if we drove. And airfare can get pretty expensive last time I checked.

[bluegirlum]

Honestly, people are so wrapped up in this cruise credit thing. I just pick the cruise and ship that I want to be on and call it a day. Some of the perks are an added benefit but other than the balcony discount and a few free drinks it isn't like these credits are leading to free cruises or something.

 

Exactly! They don't owe me anything and I don't care what anyone else gets when traveling. If my concern was getting to D+ and getting into the lounge, then I guess we'd take more cruises. We are probably taking a trip in October, and we are taking a land-based vacation. GASP. That would be an opportunity to take 2 cruises on Majesty and get close to D. Don't care!