Denarius Posted October 3, 2010 #126 Share Posted October 3, 2010 As a P&O regular of some years standing - a goldie no less - I would love it if P&O assigned formal nights to the dustbin of history. They are the one thing about P&O that I dislike. It would be wrong, as is often implied (particularly on P&Os own site) to take as read that that P&O regulars sail with them because of the formality - many of us cruise with them despite it, because we like the rest of the package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denarius Posted October 3, 2010 #127 Share Posted October 3, 2010 That is exactly the point..............formal nights are just that on P&O, formal! Remove them, and you might as well book Easy Cruise, if it is still operational. I am sure that previous OV cruisers will find P&O to their liking as long as they can accept that formal nights are proscribed,on certain evenings. This them and us is absurd, IMO. I agree, formal nights should definately be proscribed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterflytiger Posted October 8, 2010 #128 Share Posted October 8, 2010 I agree, formal nights should definately be proscribed! I think as more and more ex OV passengers venture onto P & O (Ventura & Oceana) the formal nights will be a thing of the past. Especially with a certain Captain who will be on Oceana not a stalwart for formalities. :p Also it is about time P & O realised it is the 21st century.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueFrankuk Posted October 8, 2010 #129 Share Posted October 8, 2010 We have just got back from another Ventura cruise to be honest we have only gone with them on a very discounted cruises as you see we are Princes fans and to endure the chaos of embarkation today just wish they would learn from their american friends. I despair with the P&O addicts the food is just about OK the waiters a miserable lot and I was mortified to see on formal night if you were not in formal dress you were banned from some bars, We did dress up but it is quite acceptable on an American ship to change after dinner and dress for comfort, after all you have paid, and we are in the new millenium. Can I just have a liitle moan that has driven me bananas on this ship, why everytime I got in the lift does someone get in and say are we going up or down, I stopped saying the arrow is a clue and to suggest one ding was up and two for down as that seemed beyond them all Roll on November!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin7 Posted October 8, 2010 #130 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Oops a typo. Not, 'proscribed' rather, prescribed. Yes, I know they have entirely opposite meanings, but it is the latter that was intended in my post of October 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David&Heather Posted October 8, 2010 #131 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Do they have a Simon Bates or Tony Blackburn left? I would prefer a Wogan but I bet they've all gone:D No doubt all gone on Artemis:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David&Heather Posted October 8, 2010 #132 Share Posted October 8, 2010 We have just got back from another Ventura cruise to be honest we have only gone with them on a very discounted cruises as you see we are Princes fans and to endure the chaos of embarkation today just wish they would learn from their american friends.I despair with the P&O addicts the food is just about OK the waiters a miserable lot and I was mortified to see on formal night if you were not in formal dress you were banned from some bars, We did dress up but it is quite acceptable on an American ship to change after dinner and dress for comfort, after all you have paid, and we are in the new millenium. Can I just have a liitle moan that has driven me bananas on this ship, why everytime I got in the lift does someone get in and say are we going up or down, I stopped saying the arrow is a clue and to suggest one ding was up and two for down as that seemed beyond them all Roll on November!!!! We found Princess to our liking, yes there are formal evenings but you do have an alternative, we did dress up for dinner (no dreadful pingu suit as I refuse to wear such a hideous garment) but I lost the jacket, tie and undid a few buttons for the rest of the evening. P&O need to get their act together and stop sending out the mixed messages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u2cruiser Posted October 8, 2010 #133 Share Posted October 8, 2010 We have just got back from another Ventura cruise to be honest we have only gone with them on a very discounted cruises as you see we are Princes fans and to endure the chaos of embarkation today just wish they would learn from their american friends.I despair with the P&O addicts the food is just about OK the waiters a miserable lot and I was mortified to see on formal night if you were not in formal dress you were banned from some bars, We did dress up but it is quite acceptable on an American ship to change after dinner and dress for comfort, after all you have paid, and we are in the new millenium. Can I just have a liitle moan that has driven me bananas on this ship, why everytime I got in the lift does someone get in and say are we going up or down, I stopped saying the arrow is a clue and to suggest one ding was up and two for down as that seemed beyond them all Roll on November!!!! Our worst ever embarkation was the Emerald Princess in Fort Lauderdale last year. Absolute chaos! I think it can happen on any line. Was it just this time that you were disappointed with the food and waiters, as I see you've been on Ventura 3 times? I'm a Princess fan about to try P&O for the first time in 2 weeks. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisebore Posted October 9, 2010 #134 Share Posted October 9, 2010 I think as more and more ex OV passengers venture onto P & O (Ventura & Oceana) the formal nights will be a thing of the past. Especially with a certain Captain who will be on Oceana not a stalwart for formalities. :pAlso it is about time P & O realised it is the 21st century.:D Not at all; ex OV passengers will find their formal evenings experience culturally uplifting, and wonder why they denied themselves this elevating adventure for so long. Cb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterflytiger Posted October 9, 2010 #135 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Not at all; ex OV passengers will find their formal evenings experience culturally uplifting, and wonder why they denied themselves this elevating adventure for so long. Cb As I am holiday I go to relax and unwind not play at dressing up. My Career involves many Black Tie and Formal events and the idea of doing it on holiday is not at all appealing.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisebore Posted October 9, 2010 #136 Share Posted October 9, 2010 As I am holiday I go to relax and unwind not play at dressing up. My Career involves many Black Tie and Formal events and the idea of doing it on holiday is not at all appealing.:eek: Sorry butterflytiger, I should have said " many ex OV passengers will.............;) Regards Cb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Single Cruiser Posted October 9, 2010 #137 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Sorry butterflytiger, I should have said " many ex OV passengers will.............;) Regards Cb Sorry Cb I think you mean to say "A small minority of ex OV passengers will............... :D After all, if they had wanted to do formal nights then they would have cruised on the budget-priced P&O in previous years rather than the more expensive OV cruises ... wouldn't they? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldJerseycruiser Posted October 9, 2010 #138 Share Posted October 9, 2010 If that's the case, why don't they go on NCL or RCI and stop moaning about the way P & O does these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Single Cruiser Posted October 9, 2010 #139 Share Posted October 9, 2010 If that's the case, why don't they go on NCL or RCI and stop moaning about the way P & O does these things. Points to countdown clocks... Can't speak for others. The problem is P&O are aggressively marketting P&O to ex-OVs. So if a company says to you buy my product, buy my product. But there is a small thing you don't like with the product wouldn't you ask the company if they were willing to change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denarius Posted October 9, 2010 #140 Share Posted October 9, 2010 If P&O wish to attract the OV customer, it is obvious that they must move with the times and relax their traditional dress codes. On the other hand, some people do enjoy dressing up in formal attire. NCL and Regent seem to have come to a suitable compromise on this. All nights are smart casual, but on some those who would like to dress formally are invited to do so - I understand NCL call it "dress up or not", Regent call it "optional formal". This allows those who wish to dress up to do so without feeling overdressed, and those who do not so wish to dress casually. Is this the way forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1160451 Posted October 10, 2010 #141 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Wow.. Hard work this cruising lark, this never happens in land based hotels. Would not go in shorts to the Pheonixa in Malta but there are no posts on that from the holiday makers who holiday in 3 star hotels in Quawra. We always cruise with Thomson or FO and will be P&O next year on a 3 week cruise in the far East. We "dress up" at every possible opportunity, but happy to sit next to someone in designer jeans and stylish shirt. Its how you define "dressing up", I dress up in DJ and suits but can accept that dressing up in jeans and shirts is a fact for some people. Remember fashion is today style is forever. What I hate is people trying to change other people and styles. I would not go onto the OV site and demanded you all wear DJ so really you should not go onto the P&O site and demand they all accept shorts and flip flops, then claim they are stuffy if they react. So what, they may be stuffy but that's there choice, so do not try to change them or ridicule them. Define stuffy? Define laid back? FO is like the Marie Celeste after midnight but we know that, so we often go on Thomson Destiny if we want a cruise with more particular "action". I am not going to ridicule the FO people for not doing a conga at 1 am. Every one take it easy and enjoy youself. Ahoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smee Posted October 10, 2010 #142 Share Posted October 10, 2010 It would be nice to find a cruise line where there were no hoipolloi and people knew how to dress in the evening.......:eek::cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterflytiger Posted October 10, 2010 #143 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Wow.. Hard work this cruising lark, this never happens in land based hotels. Would not go in shorts to the Pheonixa in Malta but there are no posts on that from the holiday makers who holiday in 3 star hotels in Quawra. We always cruise with Thomson or FO and will be P&O next year on a 3 week cruise in the far East. We "dress up" at every possible opportunity, but happy to sit next to someone in designer jeans and stylish shirt. Its how you define "dressing up", I dress up in DJ and suits but can accept that dressing up in jeans and shirts is a fact for some people. Remember fashion is today style is forever. What I hate is people trying to change other people and styles. I would not go onto the OV site and demanded you all wear DJ so really you should not go onto the P&O site and demand they all accept shorts and flip flops, then claim they are stuffy if they react. So what, they may be stuffy but that's there choice, so do not try to change them or ridicule them. Define stuffy? Define laid back? FO is like the Marie Celeste after midnight but we know that, so we often go on Thomson Destiny if we want a cruise with more particular "action". I am not going to ridicule the FO people for not doing a conga at 1 am. Every one take it easy and enjoy youself. Ahoy. Who exactly has ever demanded that shorts and flip flops should be allowed for dinner?:confused: This is the problem when assumptions are made. If you had ever been on either of the OV ships you would have seen many gentlemen wearing smart trousers and shirts some in suits and many ladies in their cocktail dresses. As Craig said earlier P & O are doing the hard sell to ex OV passengers and part of the reason they went with OV was the casual style but not as some on this site assume is scruffy. I have never seen anyone in beachwear in the dining rooms in the evening. Like it or not many ex OV passengers are going to become P & O passengers and so the old P & O brigade had better get used to mixing with the riff raff.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smee Posted October 10, 2010 #144 Share Posted October 10, 2010 We are already looking for an alternative line.............:D:D:D:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterflytiger Posted October 10, 2010 #145 Share Posted October 10, 2010 We are already looking for an alternative line.............:D:D:D:D:D Don't worry Smee, the ex OV passengers have spread far and wide. You will always be close to one no matter which alternative you choose.:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Single Cruiser Posted October 10, 2010 #146 Share Posted October 10, 2010 We are already looking for an alternative line.............:D:D:D:D:D Well you have three queens to choose from now.. If they meet your standards that is.. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisebore Posted October 10, 2010 #147 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Don't worry Smee, the ex OV passengers have spread far and wide. You will always be close to one no matter which alternative you choose.:p butterflytiger Shouldn't be a problem recognising them in their union jack shorts smart vest and knotted hanky (clean) ;) Cb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smee Posted October 10, 2010 #148 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Shouldn't be a problem recognising them in their union jack shorts smart vest and knotted hanky (clean) ;) You said it...................:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1160451 Posted October 10, 2010 #149 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Hi Di Hi:) Got it at last.... All OV wear flip flops, union jack vests, hankies on head and love Game Shows And all P&O are old, stuffy, intolerant and wear DJ's around the pool. That's it sticking, with FO or Thomson, just a minute I seem to rememeber enjoying game shows on Thomsons and also dressing up in DJ on FO. Oh no, what ever can I do now, stop Cruising? No just lets take it easy guys and girls or lets pick on them Cunard folk:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smee Posted October 10, 2010 #150 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Cunard looks good.....................:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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