bajathree Posted November 30, 2010 #1 Share Posted November 30, 2010 ...and ya thought that Holland America was the geriatric cruise line.....http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/nov/29/passenger-charged-for-releasing-anchor-of-moving-s/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marci22 Posted November 30, 2010 #2 Share Posted November 30, 2010 He says he was intoxicated but he stopped to put on work gloves :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Bound4Bermuda Posted November 30, 2010 #3 Share Posted November 30, 2010 And who's drunk at 5:25 am?! Are the bars open 24-hours? :confused: And now he's facing possibly 20 years in jail! :eek: But could you imagine if it did damage the boat?! Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlajla Posted November 30, 2010 #4 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Just shaking my head here. Sounds pretty dangerous, but many murderers or rapists don't get 2 decades. I'm guessing he won't be trying that little trick again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvery Seas Cruiser Posted November 30, 2010 #5 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Couldn't dropping anchor when the ship is at cruising speed cause a lot of damage? Also, I must admit I am SHOCKED that just any jerk can, one, get near an anchor and, two, know how to drop it. Also I thought it actually took a lot of time to drop an anchor. I didn't dream it was a simple push button or move lever operation. Thank heavens this drunken act did not result in damage or injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjm1988 Posted November 30, 2010 #6 Share Posted November 30, 2010 He didn't even try the "what does this button do" excuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenadanielle Posted November 30, 2010 #7 Share Posted November 30, 2010 He says he was intoxicated but he stopped to put on work gloves :confused: I'm wondering where he found the work gloves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Cruz Chic Posted November 30, 2010 #8 Share Posted November 30, 2010 What an idiot.....throw the book at him! And then add the emergency muster! It will make good reading over on the HAL board. :eek: *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffinater Posted November 30, 2010 #9 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Surprising he could even get at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesarn Posted November 30, 2010 #10 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Couldn't dropping anchor when the ship is at cruising speed cause a lot of damage? Also, I must admit I am SHOCKED that just any jerk can, one, get near an anchor and, two, know how to drop it. Also I thought it actually took a lot of time to drop an anchor. I didn't dream it was a simple push button or move lever operation. Thank heavens this drunken act did not result in damage or injury. My thoughts exactly. With all of the security on these ships, how could this moron get anywhere near the anchor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz4evr Posted November 30, 2010 #11 Share Posted November 30, 2010 That's exactly what I thought.....how can anyone get into the area where the anchor is. Where is security when you need them? I would hate to find out what else this drunk is capable of when he has too much to drink! :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjldvlks Posted November 30, 2010 #12 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Never been on Holland Am., but the ships I have been on have not had security guarding every door. Occasionally, I have seen doors to crew only areas left open. I suppose it is possible that the door/gate was left open or unlocked by a careless crewman or it was open in preparation for arrival in a port. It is interesting that he stopped to put on the gloves -- certainly indicates some degree of intent and planning. I am curious as to why the captain threatened and then conducted a muster to find him. Had the security cams given a good enough look at him they could ID him in a line up? Can you imagine going through a couple of thousand passengers looking for one guy? I wonder how fast the ship was going at the time. All in all, glad I was not aboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwcruisers Posted November 30, 2010 #13 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Well, as funny as he no doubt thought it was (at the time), this gentleman is about to learn that Federal District Court judges are not famous for their sense of humor! :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnutphl Posted November 30, 2010 #14 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I can't believe the area isn't a little more secure. I understand not posting a guard but putting a security lock with a code to enter would be easy. I hope he gets the max sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorman23 Posted November 30, 2010 #15 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I am curious as to why the captain threatened and then conducted a muster to find him. Had the security cams given a good enough look at him they could ID him in a line up? Can you imagine going through a couple of thousand passengers looking for one guy? I wonder how fast the ship was going at the time. All in all, glad I was not aboard. I believe the muster was called because of the deployment of the life bouy that occurred around the same time as the anchor drop. Since someone threw it over the crew needed to determine if anyones life was in danger or if someone went overboard. Granted it took two hours to make that decision but I do not fault the Captain for being able to defend his actions. Think what would have happened if he did nothing and the deployment of the life bouy was indeed a result of a person overboard and had nothing to do with the anchor drop? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icruzthere4Iam Posted November 30, 2010 #16 Share Posted November 30, 2010 The one account says he was "in formal night attire" which having cruised on HA before I assume is a tux. Kind of a funny picture, drunk guy in a tux and work gloves stumbling around wreaking havoc. Also kind of funny that he feels his 50 foot boat and anchor are similar to the cruise ship. Goes to show that even the more "elite" lines deal with drunken jackwagons, they're just better dressed:D Glad that all turned out safe and that he was apprehended. Take care, Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted November 30, 2010 #17 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Surprising he could even get at it. I agree with you there. HAL has to be a little red in the face over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NordicPrince Posted November 30, 2010 #18 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I agree with you there. HAL has to be a little red in the face over this. Doesn't matter what line it happened to. Lives were endangered. That's the bottom line. Throw the book at him. IMHO there's got to be more to this story than what's first apparent. Just goes to show the sad state of the world we live in. Obviously HAL security planning never envisioned that one happening. Somebody didn't follow proper procedures in securing that area of the ship. Don't accuse HAL. As far as being redfaced RCI had a murder happen onboard. Where was RCI security on that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted November 30, 2010 #19 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Doesn't matter what line it happened to. Lives were endangered.That's the bottom line. Throw the book at him. IMHO there's got to be more to this story than what's first apparent. Just goes to show the sad state of the world we live in. Obviously HAL security planning never envisioned that one happening. Somebody didn't follow proper procedures in securing that area of the ship. Don't accuse HAL. As far as being redfaced RCI had a murder happen onboard. Where was RCI security on that one? Whoa and back up the horse dude. I never accused HAL. I made the statement that HAL must be a little red in the face over the incident. IT DID happen on HAL.:rolleyes::rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NordicPrince Posted November 30, 2010 #20 Share Posted November 30, 2010 My point is, if the crew doesn't follow the proper security procedures it could happen anywhere on any line. There are idiots on every ship willing to cause trouble. If someone got into the bridge I'd be surprised if not every button has a failsafe check on it. FYI I outgrew "dude" status about 30 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted November 30, 2010 #21 Share Posted November 30, 2010 My point is, if the crew doesn't follow the proper security procedures it could happen anywhere on any line. There are idiots on every ship willing to cause trouble. If someone got into the bridge I'd be surprised if not every button has a failsafe check on it. FYI I outgrew "dude" status about 30 years ago. Fine, it can happen on any line but it happened this time on HAL which is why I stated that in my post and no where did I mention that it was funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NordicPrince Posted November 30, 2010 #22 Share Posted November 30, 2010 http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1316027 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphs Posted November 30, 2010 #23 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Note to self for next cruise: Do not wander into restricted area and drop anchor...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Flying Pirate Posted November 30, 2010 #24 Share Posted November 30, 2010 My thoughts exactly. With all of the security on these ships, how could this moron get anywhere near the anchor! I was wondering the exact same thing. And the reports say he dropped the anchor at like 5:30 and tossed the life ring over at nearly 6am, I would think the bridge would have noticed the anchor getting dropped, what too them so long to investigate??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The C Posted December 1, 2010 #25 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Just shaking my head here. Sounds pretty dangerous, but many murderers or rapists don't get 2 decades. I'm guessing he won't be trying that little trick again! I'm guessing the same. Also murder and rapes (sadly) are not federal felonies typically and are prosecuted as municipality/state felonies. Federal offenses almost always get much more strict punishment. In addition a murder (as bad as it is) is a crime against 1 person vs this is a crime against over 1,000. As stated, if they hadn't been so lucky they could have possibly had the ship sunk. I'm not so sure how quickly it would have sunk, and I guess that depends on how bad the damage would have been. And who's drunk at 5:25 am?! Are the bars open 24-hours? :confused: And now he's facing possibly 20 years in jail! :eek: But could you imagine if it did damage the boat?! Yikes! A couple of years ago, I was on a ship and was highly intoxicated at that time. I also didnt go looking for any anchors to drop though. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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