rsquare Posted January 16, 2012 #251 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I think that what stunned me most after absorbing what happened was that the ship did not hold boat drill before leaving Civitavecchia. I have never been on a ship which actually got underway before holding boat drill. One lesson which might come out of this disaster is a rethink of what boat drill actually is. In the last few months we have sailed with two units of Carnival, and their ideas of boat drill are as different as night and day. Cunard brings you into an area and shows you a movie about putting your life jacket on; Holland--America musters you out on deck right under the lifeboat you will use in a disaster. A second lesson is that lifeboats are pretty useless when the ship has a radical list; this is one to be absorbed by naval architects and the people who design davits, as well as in crew training which needs to cover strategies for launching when the ship is heeled over. That most people survived seems due to the happenstance of the accident happening close to shore; imagine the same scenario with the ship holed as a result of an internal explosion or sabotage well off shore. There's lots of work to be done by the cruise industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seago2 Posted January 16, 2012 #252 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I think that what stunned me most after absorbing what happened was that the ship did not hold boat drill before leaving Civitavecchia. I have never been on a ship which actually got underway before holding boat drill. One lesson which might come out of this disaster is a rethink of what boat drill actually is. In the last few months we have sailed with two units of Carnival, and their ideas of boat drill are as different as night and day. Cunard brings you into an area and shows you a movie about putting your life jacket on; Holland--America musters you out on deck right under the lifeboat you will use in a disaster. A second lesson is that lifeboats are pretty useless when the ship has a radical list; this is one to be absorbed by naval architects and the people who design davits, as well as in crew training which needs to cover strategies for launching when the ship is heeled over. That most people survived seems due to the happenstance of the accident happening close to shore; imagine the same scenario with the ship holed as a result of an internal explosion or sabotage well off shore. There's lots of work to be done by the cruise industry. Excellent. I agree with everything you say. I think that Concordia was taking pax on at different ports, but at any rate, the muster drill must be held within 24 hours of a passenger boarding a ship. So- next day is (currently) kosher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailbroad Posted January 16, 2012 #253 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Thank you for sharing this with us! I am glad you are safe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJai Posted January 16, 2012 #254 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Sending big hugs and prayers to you and your family. I thank you for posting this. Your post has affected me more than all the news coverage that I have watched. Your courage in posting this has touched many people and has made me think about things I have not ever wanted to. Thank you and safe travel home. BlueJai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pkt1976 Posted January 16, 2012 #255 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'm so sorry that you went through this and continue to wait in difficult circumstances while you wait to get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar07 Posted January 16, 2012 #256 Share Posted January 16, 2012 We just want to go home and the travel insurance people are being difficult, emirates say they cant get us on a flight any earlier I JUST WANT TO GO HOME Michelle, I am truly sorry for what you have experienced. What a nightmare. I hope your little girl is fine and does not suffer from this. I do not need to say "take care of her" as I know that is exactly what you are doing under very trying circumstances. Does Emirates know you came off the Concordia? Perhaps they could ask someone to take a voluntary "bump" for you. There are lots of good folks out there; I hope you find two to help you out and get you home. God speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatillda Posted January 16, 2012 #257 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Yikes....I'm new here...and it took me weeks to convince my husband to take a cruise. we have been planning one in april. Not signed on yet. Now I am hoping he will still want to go. What a sad tragedy. Praying for all those who didn't make it out. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pully8 Posted January 16, 2012 #258 Share Posted January 16, 2012 as we all know adversity brings forth the good and bad in human nature. this thread reveals that. compassion and empathy costs nothing but some are not capable. hopefully michelle and her family are now on their way home. a truly awful experience for all, staff and passengers. lets hope in time something positive comes out of this. we would not travel on one of these large ships. safety is clearly not a priority and emergency procedures are not either known or implemented. too high a price to pay for travellers or staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtrigal Posted January 16, 2012 #259 Share Posted January 16, 2012 RuthlessBoss - you are not grasping that she and her child are still stranded in a foreign country with no money, no documents, and only the clothes on their back. Her situation is much more than "an inconvenience", and it is not over with yet. Additionally, the entity that put her in this situation, Costa, has not been helpful. She is understandably unhappy with that. She may also be deeply saddened for those who died, and deeply thankful to be alive, but she can also, simultaneously, be deeply pissed at the people who are responsible for this and who are not helping to correct it. Lay off. It is in hideously poor taste to criticize someone who is still in a very difficult situation, with her child at her side, and not yet safe at home. I could not agree more Seattle 2000. Human beings still shock me with the things they say! I assume that "Ruthless Boss" doesn't have a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrp96 Posted January 16, 2012 #260 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Guys can we please make this thread about Michelle and not about arguing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejd Posted January 16, 2012 #261 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Courage - a perfect sensibility of the measure of danger, and a mental willingness to endure it. (William Tecmseh Sherman) Well done Michelle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCSD Posted January 16, 2012 #262 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Unfortunately, Italy is not like US, they may not be very efficient. Like Greece, both are with troubles recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goya_Essence Posted January 16, 2012 #263 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Michelle, thank you for sharing this harrowing experience. We are thinking of you. Regards, Meredith from Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelRN4u Posted January 16, 2012 #264 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Michelle, we are praying for a safe return to the US for you and your family as well as for everyone on the ship...both from the US and other countries... Unfortunately as much as we have wanted to sail the western caribbean and have long anticipated this cruise (not on Costa), I am calling tomorrow to change it. I fear this will be a trend for all cruise companies, but hey you gotta do, what you gotta do. I'm sure this will bring alot of awareness to all the cruise companies to change some policies. So we will wait awhile before cruising again. Please keep us updated on your progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrp96 Posted January 16, 2012 #265 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Terri, just an FYI, Michelle is from Australia, so you might alter your prayers to get her home there as I really don't think she wants to visit the US at the moment (although I would welcome her with open arms).:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelRN4u Posted January 16, 2012 #266 Share Posted January 16, 2012 It is obviously way too late for me to be posting, and reading the original posting was obviously quite unsettling as well.... Michelle, we are praying for a safe return home for you and your family as well as for everyone on the ship. Unfortunately as much as we have wanted to sail the Western Mediterranean and have long anticipated this cruise (not on Costa), I am calling tomorrow to change it. I fear this will be a trend for all cruise companies, but hey you gotta do, what you gotta do. I'm sure this will bring alot of awareness to all the cruise companies to change some policies. So we will wait awhile before cruising again. Please keep us updated on your progress! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxesden1 Posted January 16, 2012 #267 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Did you make a flight yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare erewhon Posted January 16, 2012 #268 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Michelle, Thank you for writing about your horrific ordeal here on Cruise Critic. We wish your family a safe return to your home in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucory Posted January 16, 2012 #269 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Get home safe Michelle and family!!! This story just in for those following your journey!!! http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/aussies-reveal-cruise-terror/story-e6frfq80-1226245416928 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funfamilyof6 Posted January 16, 2012 #270 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Michelle I am so sorry you, your daughter and everybody else involved had to experience this, it must have been terrifying. You have amazing courage. I will say a prayer for you, your daughter and everyone else involved that you all get home safe soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Gal Posted January 16, 2012 #271 Share Posted January 16, 2012 From the latest news that brucory has linked in his post, it sounds as if Michelle, her husband and daughter are now on their way home. Of course they have a 20 hour plane trip ahead of them which in normal circumstances is doable but when one has been through such an horrific event, even those long hours are going to feel even more interminable as I imagine all of them just want to be home here in sunny Melbourne. Jennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palm Trees Posted January 16, 2012 #272 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Michelle, I find it amazing that you have the presence of mind and the courage to post on CC at a time when I'm not sure I'd even be able to function well much less report on this event. Thank you so much. Like others here have posted, at times like this, material losses are meaningless. The fact that your family is alive is everything. God speed, safe travels home and warmest wishes from Chicago. Our thoughts are with you. I was also amazed that ANYONE would be able to sit, put into words and type about this ordeal. We are grateful to hear that you and your family are OK and we really do want to hear more when you get home. The CC family is a very large one, as I now see. It's not just about Roll Calls anymore. Stay warm. {HUGS} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzdisneymom Posted January 16, 2012 #273 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Brucory, thx for the update. Michelle, John, and daughter, we are glad you are on your way home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funfamilyof6 Posted January 16, 2012 #274 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Michelle, I hope you and your family have had a safe trip home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peg013 Posted January 16, 2012 #275 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Michelle, John and Katherine, I am so glad you are finally on your way back home. Your CC family cares!:) Please let us know you are okay as soon as you feel up to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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