Common courtesy?

[Banditswife]

I do agree that all cruiselines could come up with a better solution for everyone. Like having certain sections of cabins be designated smoking, all others non smoking. IMHO having 1 complete side non & the other smoking wouldn't work. Pax have preferences of port/ starboard sides. So if they made just a certain section of the cabins on both sides smoking, then everyone would be happy. They could allow smoking in those cabins & there'd be less pax smoking on balconies. You would know before you booked whether you were near the smoking section or not. Carnival did try a totally smoke free cruise, it failed, could not keep the ship full.

 

We do try to be considerate of others, but also wish them to be considerate of us too. If we are in a smoking allowed area, please don't ask us to put it out. We have so few public areas to smoke, let us enjoy what we have. You can enjoy the other 95% non smoking ship.

[mavis2222]

I do agree that all cruiselines could come up with a better solution for everyone. Like having certain sections of cabins be designated smoking, all others non smoking. IMHO having 1 complete side non & the other smoking wouldn't work. Pax have preferences of port/ starboard sides. So if they made just a certain section of the cabins on both sides smoking, then everyone would be happy. They could allow smoking in those cabins & there'd be less pax smoking on balconies. You would know before you booked whether you were near the smoking section or not. Carnival did try a totally smoke free cruise, it failed, could not keep the ship full.

 

We do try to be considerate of others, but also wish them to be considerate of us too. If we are in a smoking allowed area, please don't ask us to put it out. We have so few public areas to smoke, let us enjoy what we have. You can enjoy the other 95% non smoking ship.

 

The "smoking" cabins would still be avalible to anybody just like the "Non Smoking" cabins. Just that the non or smoking person would have to deal with there neighbors while on the cruise.

I was on the Paradise back when it was Non Smoking.. I enjoyed it very much. BTW., The ship was full..

[momof4boys]

Carnival did have a non-smoking ship for the longest time. It was called The Paradise.

 

I failed miserably.

 

It really wasn't as long as that......in fact that ship was a smoking ship by the time I started sailing in 2005.

 

In those few short years....a huge tide has turned. I suspect that today...it would be much more successful.

[elgato2]

Admit I just read the first and last pages of this thread...but must agree with several posters who stated that there are so FEW areas that smoking is allowed..it is frustrating to us smokers....

Yes..I try to be considerate of non-smokers but we book CCL primarily so we CAN smoke on our balcony with our morning coffee..and at night before bed...If someone next to me complained I'm afraid I would have to try to reach a compromise..but I WOULD NOT give up smoking out there..I'd try to pay attention to when they were out there and not smoke then...

But, that said..we also try to get a balcony as far aft as possible cause the smoke seems to blow down-wind...offends less people that way!

[bplazo]

If you smoke on your balcony and have never had a problem, you will if your next balcony cabin is next to mine, and I or my family member has to inhale 2nd hand smoke from one of your lung cancer sticks, and you refuse to stop killing us.

 

Allowed or not, I don't appreciate anyone putting the health of me or my family at risk. We have a right to breathe smoke-free air, and I will not allow anyone to infringe on that.

 

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I suggest that you get an inside cabin or a cruiseline that does not allow smoking on the balconies.

 

Just curious, what are you going to do if someone does smoke?

[bplazo]

I do agree that all cruiselines could come up with a better solution for everyone. Like having certain sections of cabins be designated smoking, all others non smoking. IMHO having 1 complete side non & the other smoking wouldn't work. Pax have preferences of port/ starboard sides. So if they made just a certain section of the cabins on both sides smoking, then everyone would be happy. They could allow smoking in those cabins & there'd be less pax smoking on balconies. You would know before you booked whether you were near the smoking section or not. Carnival did try a totally smoke free cruise, it failed, could not keep the ship full.

 

We do try to be considerate of others, but also wish them to be considerate of us too. If we are in a smoking allowed area, please don't ask us to put it out. We have so few public areas to smoke, let us enjoy what we have. You can enjoy the other 95% non smoking ship.

 

It does not matter how anyone tries to be fair. One side is never satisfied. Give them an inch and then they want a mile.

[dwaterhouse]

I am a non smoker... Hubby is a smoker as of our last cruise ... We have always cruised balcony or suite, and have enjoyed the balcony....Last cruise was the 1st time he smoked on the balcony and had me grossed out with the smell... I didn't get to use it at all and of course I said something about it and it caused a big smoking -non debate and said I could go anywhere on the ship to enjoy the water...and he can only go certain places to smoke.... I conceded for that cruise.

 

Let's just say I will get the last word on this one... Cause I booked an Inside room .... My thoughts are if I can't enjoy it... Either will he..lol

[sobern2003]

If you smoke on your balcony and have never had a problem, you will if your next balcony cabin is next to mine, and I or my family member has to inhale 2nd hand smoke from one of your lung cancer sticks, and you refuse to stop killing us.

 

Allowed or not, I don't appreciate anyone putting the health of me or my family at risk. We have a right to breathe smoke-free air, and I will not allow anyone to infringe on that.

 

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then maybe you should not book a balcony cabin. I am a nonsmoker,but several of my family,including my Mom smoke,and should you or anyone else get nasty with her for smoking on her balcony,its gonna get real ugly real fast when i find out about it. You know going forward that smoking is allowed on the balconies,so no you dont have the right to cause a problem with someone doing what is allowed.

[tikimon]

Well this is a debate that will never come to an end or compromise as long as ciggs are manufactured and sold and Carnival remains with the policy that they now have in place.

 

Bottom line is it dosen't matter which side you are on in this issue.

 

Carnival own's the ships we all choose to sail on and they alone set their own rules and guidelines for what we as their guests are allowed to do or not to do.

 

Yes we can come on this board and start another thread about smoking every week and let it continue until it gets ugly and then goes POOF.

 

But until Carnival decides to change their policies all the discussion in the the world is a moot point.

 

If you or I don't agree with the stated policies of a certain cruiseline then we have the liberty to go elsewhere where their policies suit us better.

[sparks1093]

I suggest that you get an inside cabin or a cruiseline that does not allow smoking on the balconies.

 

Just curious, what are you going to do if someone does smoke?

 

Threat of gas attack (post #83).

[beachbum53]

If you smoke on your balcony and have never had a problem, you will if your next balcony cabin is next to mine, and I or my family member has to inhale 2nd hand smoke from one of your lung cancer sticks, and you refuse to stop killing us.

 

Allowed or not, I don't appreciate anyone putting the health of me or my family at risk. We have a right to breathe smoke-free air, and I will not allow anyone to infringe on that.

 

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Smoking is allowed on the balconies. When booking a cruise, I'm sure you're aware of that. Of course, it's your choice as to which cabin you book. However, as a non-smoker who is concerned about second-hand smoke, and knowing that smoking is allowed on the balconies, if you choose to book a cabin with a balcony, then you really have no right to complain if one of your neighbors is a smoker. It's the same when someone books a cabin directly above or below the dance lounge on a ship, knowing there will be loud music and noise, but bitches about it anyway. Of course you have the right to breathe smoke-free air, but when you book a balcony cabin, and you have a neighbor that smokes, it is YOUR choice that puts your health and that of your family at risk. Your smoking neighbor is not breaking any law, nor intentionally putting his/her neighbors' health at risk. He/she is smoking on the balcony because it is one of the very few places where it is allowed on the ship (by the cruise line). So even though you may not like it, you really have no right to get upset about it.

[bplazo]

Threat of gas attack (post #83).

 

Thanks, I must have missed that! My husband smoked a cigar on the balcony last cruise and I just went out there with my can of lysol and sprayed, I guess that would work on farts too.

[Jana60]

Everytime I need to fart, I'll go on the balcony and point my ashe towards the smoker's cabin.

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Make sure the smokers lighter is not lit at the time or your rear end may catch on fire! LOL....:rolleyes:

 

Geeze, grow up. You sound like a 5 year old.:eek:

[Jana60]

In fact I'd go as far as saying if someone ever acted in this manner to my husband catching a smoke on the balcony, then I would have no choice but to invite every smoker I can find on the cruise to our balcony daily for drinks :D;)

 

I'm a non-smoker and yet if I heard someone behaving so childishly, I would have to invite every smoker I could find to my balcony! I would HOPE but would NOT expect that if I explained to a chain smoker that I am allergic and asked if we could alternate a little on balcony time that they might, I repeat MIGHT agree but it would be their decision as it IS a designated smoking area and they DO have the right to smoke there.

[Gypsywych]

I smoke and if our neighbor pokes his head around the partition and asks politely,

 

If my neighbor pokes their heads around the partition, they might get more than they bargained for..................smoke or no smoke - I would be more offended by the interruption of privacy (YIKES)!

 

 

LOL

 

If I'm smoking, we're done. It's all good. ;)

[Jana60]

The "smoking" cabins would still be avalible to anybody just like the "Non Smoking" cabins. Just that the non or smoking person would have to deal with there neighbors while on the cruise.

I was on the Paradise back when it was Non Smoking.. I enjoyed it very much. BTW., The ship was full..

 

I was told that the reason the non-smoking ship failed was not because it did not sail full but because they discovered that smokers spent more money in the bars and Casino than non-smokers. I'm not sure why that would be (I don't smoke and I make pretty large contributions to the bars and Casino) but that is what I was told.

[Cushing985]

Well this is a debate that will never come to an end or compromise as long as ciggs are manufactured and sold and Carnival remains with the policy that they now have in place.

 

Bottom line is it dosen't matter which side you are on in this issue.

 

Carnival own's the ships we all choose to sail on and they alone set their own rules and guidelines for what we as their guests are allowed to do or not to do.

 

Yes we can come on this board and start another thread about smoking every week and let it continue until it gets ugly and then goes POOF.

 

But until Carnival decides to change their policies all the discussion in the the world is a moot point.

 

If you or I don't agree with the stated policies of a certain cruiseline then we have the liberty to go elsewhere where their policies suit us better.

 

Come on! This post does not belong here! Being reasonable has no place on the Carnival Board!

[MissMichelle]

If you smoke on your balcony and have never had a problem, you will if your next balcony cabin is next to mine, and I or my family member has to inhale 2nd hand smoke from one of your lung cancer sticks, and you refuse to stop killing us.

 

Allowed or not, I don't appreciate anyone putting the health of me or my family at risk. We have a right to breathe smoke-free air, and I will not allow anyone to infringe on that.

 

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You absolutely have the right to breathe "Smoke free" air..... inside your cabin! I'm always considerate of my neighbors when it comes to smoking on my balcony (that I paid for) and would refrain from smoking if asked nicely:eek:......but i can say if I had a neighbor who rudely demanded i not smoke I'd tell him to pi** off!

[2013CruiseBride]

I am a non smoker... Hubby is a smoker as of our last cruise ... We have always cruised balcony or suite, and have enjoyed the balcony....Last cruise was the 1st time he smoked on the balcony and had me grossed out with the smell... I didn't get to use it at all and of course I said something about it and it caused a big smoking -non debate and said I could go anywhere on the ship to enjoy the water...and he can only go certain places to smoke.... I conceded for that cruise.

 

Let's just say I will get the last word on this one... Cause I booked an Inside room .... My thoughts are if I can't enjoy it... Either will he..lol

 

Wow what a good wife you are. Maybe you could have compromised and gone out on the balcony together at times when he agreed to not smoke?

 

 

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[beachbum53]

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We were recently on the Liberty. Smoking is allowed on deck 10, Starboard side. I took this photo on the last day of our cruise. When I saw this, I wasn't quite sure what to think. It struck me as rather odd. My guess is that a non-smoking passenger wanted to use one of the lounge chairs on deck 10 (in the smoking area), and took it upon him/herself to put the sign there in an attempt to have a smoke-free area for sunbathing. I don't know if the sign is still there, or if a crew member saw it and put it back wherever it came from.

[K.T.B.]

It really wasn't as long as that......in fact that ship was a smoking ship by the time I started sailing in 2005.

 

In those few short years....a huge tide has turned. I suspect that today...it would be much more successful.

 

It lasted 6 years. 1998-2004.

 

And the fact is, on average, smokers drink more alcohol than non-smokers. The cruiselines will never go 100% non-smoking again.

[vacruizer]

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We were recently on the Liberty. Smoking is allowed on deck 10, Starboard side. I took this photo on the last day of our cruise. When I saw this, I wasn't quite sure what to think. It struck me as rather odd. My guess is that a non-smoking passenger wanted to use one of the lounge chairs on deck 10 (in the smoking area), and took it upon him/herself to put the sign there in an attempt to have a smoke-free area for sunbathing. I don't know if the sign is still there, or if a crew member saw it and put it back wherever it came from.

 

Those signs usually go up when re-fueling is in process in the homeport. Don't want to take any chances that some idiot tosses a butt onto the fuel barge. :eek: Makes for a great photo - LOL!

[vwrestler171]

I don't smoke, but I feel that if a smoker wants to smoke on their balcony, then they have as much right to enjoy their balcony as much as I do. The difference is that I can understand that they have limited areas that they can smoke in and I won't interfere in their space. If I don't like it, there are plenty of other spaces that I can go to enjoy the ocean. Smoke doesn't bother me, but the way some people get so adamant about not having to breathe second hand smoke, they act like they are all that matters. It seems that they are for treating everyone equally as long as they agree with them.

[lucky13elec]

I don't smoke, but I feel that if a smoker wants to smoke on their balcony, then they have as much right to enjoy their balcony as much as I do. The difference is that I can understand that they have limited areas that they can smoke in and I won't interfere in their space. If I don't like it, there are plenty of other spaces that I can go to enjoy the ocean. Smoke doesn't bother me, but the way some people get so adamant about not having to breathe second hand smoke, they act like they are all that matters. It seems that they are for treating everyone equally as long as they agree with them.

 

 

I have never smoked. I don't want blowing at or near my face otherwise I don't care if someone smokes around me. Its been my experience that the people who are most offended by smoke are former smokers. I've got quite a few friend & co-workers who used to smoke. They always seem to be the first ones to make rude comments about smokers. If people are smoking on a ship moving 18-20 knots they would really have to try hard to get smoke into a nearby balcony. Let smoke don't be upset that you are not smoking.

[BenjiRodney]

On the last cruise I simply went in when the neighbors were smoking. I really wish one side of the ship would be completely smoke free.