Arizona Cruz Chic Posted September 29, 2012 #26 Share Posted September 29, 2012 If I am recalling the same thread, the dog also ATE OFF THE TABLE in the MDR. :eek: That's the one!!! It was more like the owner suffered from separation anxiety and couldn't leave the darling home!! I tried to search but that didn't work!!! *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancronin Posted September 29, 2012 #27 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I think this was the site with the yappy dog!:eek: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1592452&highlight=service+dog&page=10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Cruz Chic Posted September 29, 2012 #28 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I think this was the site with the yappy dog!:eek: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1592452&highlight=service+dog&page=10 That's it RALPHIE!!! *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovesCruising Posted September 29, 2012 #29 Share Posted September 29, 2012 If I am recalling the same thread, the dog also ATE OFF THE TABLE in the MDR. :eek: Thats really going a little too far - and Im a dog lover - double:eek::eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebonybee Posted September 29, 2012 #30 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I have a couple of questions: 1. Do the cruisers have to pay an extra fee for the dog? 2. How does the cruiseline clean the room adequately for the next passenger that might be allergic to dogs? I mean it's not like they have time to sterilize rooms occupied by just humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dz9yvr Posted September 29, 2012 #31 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Ralphie was a fraud and shoud have been thrown overboard and it sounds like Dick should follow. These type of frauds do a dis-service to legitimate dogs and their owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisincha Posted September 29, 2012 #32 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I don't know what kind of dog Dick or Ralphie are, but I saw a Yorkie on the Majesty a few months ago, with a giant "litter box". Seriously? A Yorkie as a "service dog"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Cruz Chic Posted September 30, 2012 #33 Share Posted September 30, 2012 On our flight back from Seattle (Alaska Airlines) there was a woman who had a monkey as a service animal. The monkey was on a short leash and the woman held it up against her chest area. The FA looked at her papers, the monkey was for epileptic seizures. Not sure what a Yorkie can do, they are so hyper....All the ones I know from friends and neighbors could use a tranquiler on a daily basis, they do nothing but yap!!! :eek: :eek: *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dz9yvr Posted September 30, 2012 #34 Share Posted September 30, 2012 On our flight back from Seattle (Alaska Airlines) there was a woman who had a monkey as a service animal. The monkey was on a short leash and the woman held it up against her chest area. The FA looked at her papers, the monkey was for epileptic seizures. Not sure what a Yorkie can do, they are so hyper....All the ones I know from friends and neighbors could use a tranquiler on a daily basis, they do nothing but yap!!! :eek: :eek: *** The Yorkie should be able to do exactly what the Monkey does, nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Cruizers Posted September 30, 2012 #35 Share Posted September 30, 2012 There was a Sevice dog on our LOS TA, the owner was diabetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Pedro Posted September 30, 2012 #36 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I have a couple of questions: 1. Do the cruisers have to pay an extra fee for the dog? 2. How does the cruiseline clean the room adequately for the next passenger that might be allergic to dogs? I mean it's not like they have time to sterilize rooms occupied by just humans. 1. They do not have to pay extra for a service dog on either the cruise or for an airline flight. They do however have some expenses involved for a current medical clearance required by cruise line and some ports. Airline passenger who take a non-service dog with them aboard the aircraft pay a fee of about $100. 2. Sterilization requires steam under pressure so obviously that does not happen and "just humans" are also capable of bringing aboard diseases. Most cruise lines thourghly clean their cabins between cruises including changing the matress pads. While it could be a problem for someone with an animal allergy I expect that would be a very rare incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coralc Posted September 30, 2012 #37 Share Posted September 30, 2012 On our flight back from Seattle (Alaska Airlines) there was a woman who had a monkey as a service animal. The monkey was on a short leash and the woman held it up against her chest area. The FA looked at her papers, the monkey was for epileptic seizures. Not sure what a Yorkie can do, they are so hyper....All the ones I know from friends and neighbors could use a tranquiler on a daily basis, they do nothing but yap!!! :eek: :eek: *** There have been several recent articles about service animals in the paper recently. You are allowed to ask what sort of assistance they provide and that's about it. I don't know if it is federal law, but in California the only 2 legal assistance animals are dogs and minature horses. And NO, I haven't read the actual law in order to determine what sort of assistance minature horses would provide. Probably some special interest group. :D:):D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUMB Posted September 30, 2012 #38 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I don't know if it is federal law, but in California the only 2 legal assistance animals are dogs and minature horses. And NO, I haven't read the actual law in order to determine what sort of assistance minature horses would provide. Probably some special interest group. :D:):D Wow, next thing we are going to get a horse in the MDR on formal night..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r6girl Posted September 30, 2012 #39 Share Posted September 30, 2012 The Yorkie should be able to do exactly what the Monkey does, nothing. I can't say how effective Yorkies would be as a service animal (since they ARE indeed cute little yappy dogs) but I could see the monkey's value as a service animal for those who are mobility challenged or impaired. I was bored so I googled it and apparently, monkeys are widely used for quadriplegia, multiple sclerosis, diabetic neuropathy, Lou Gehrig’s disease, and polio afflicted persons. I, myself, have trouble opening jars and cans on occasion, and since I'm fresh out of monkeys, I get my specially-trained-service-husband to do it for me... with a few toddlers in our home, we don't need to add more monkeys to the house! :D But for those people who have legit issues that require service animals of any sort, I wouldn't begrudge them that extra help that an animal can provide. I think that there might always be those who abuse the system, and that's too bad. I'd like to see someone who actually uses a service animal put the abusers in their place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J&K08 Posted September 30, 2012 #40 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Unfortunately (at least in air travel), dog owners have discovered airlines are not likely to push them on their claims that their dogs are service animals. It is really selfish of them to do so because what if someone is severely allergic to dogs. This is part of the tyranny of the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) the US government is pushing. Companies are afraid to discover these frauds lest they get sued and fined. Especially with symapthetic juries. Don't get me wrong. There are parts of the ADA which are good but many parts, at least the current government are pushing, that are bad (i.e. forcing every pool in the US to install expensive, permanent elevators in the pools to allow people with disabilities access to the water whether there is a need or not instead of allowing them to have far less expensive, mobile elevators that can be wheeled out on an as needed basis). Someone I work with told me a woman was able to fly with her dog claiming it was a service dog because she suffered from severe depression and it prevented her from committing suicide. :rolleyes: It really does a disservice to legitimate people with needs and their service animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deborahjo Posted September 30, 2012 #41 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I own a black lab. He is 2years old. I am a diabetic. It use to be under control but is not now. About 9 months ago he came and sat beside me and would not leave. He kept nudging me and nudging me. My husband found it strange and ask me to check my blood sugar. I ask why and he said just do it so I did. It was over 200. Not good. Also if it is time for my meds and I lose track of time he reminds me. He wakes me up at night if things are not right. He has never been "taught" a thing. As our doctor puts it he is atuned to my illness. Would I classify him as a service dog? For me he is. But I would never take him with us on a cruise. He is our pet and baby. He is spoiled rotten. He is nothing like the trained "service dogs". People who abuse this should lose their animal and be charged with abuse. Just MHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Cruz Chic Posted September 30, 2012 #42 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Wow, next thing we are going to get a horse in the MDR on formal night..... YIKES! Or any night for that matter! :eek: :D :eek: *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Cruz Chic Posted September 30, 2012 #43 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I own a black lab. He is 2years old. I am a diabetic. It use to be under control but is not now. About 9 months ago he came and sat beside me and would not leave. He kept nudging me and nudging me. My husband found it strange and ask me to check my blood sugar. I ask why and he said just do it so I did. It was over 200. Not good. Also if it is time for my meds and I lose track of time he reminds me. He wakes me up at night if things are not right. He has never been "taught" a thing. As our doctor puts it he is atuned to my illness. Would I classify him as a service dog? For me he is. But I would never take him with us on a cruise. He is our pet and baby. He is spoiled rotten. He is nothing like the trained "service dogs". People who abuse this should lose their animal and be charged with abuse. Just MHO This is incredible, some animals are amazing. *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexkrn46 Posted September 30, 2012 #44 Share Posted September 30, 2012 A service dog who goes through years of training and works hard. to protect their owner, is different thenn an owener who buys a tag off the internet and dresses their animal in cute outfits or pushes their dog in a stroller. i went on A flight where a dog was too big to sit under the seat, the family was escorted off, while a service dog ( the type not formally trained) ran up and down the aisle. It did not seem fair the none paying dog could roam free while the slightly too large dog (fare paying) was kicked off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dz9yvr Posted September 30, 2012 #45 Share Posted September 30, 2012 A service dog who goes through years of training and works hard. to protect their owner, is different thenn an owener who buys a tag off the internet and dresses their animal in cute outfits or pushes their dog in a stroller. i went on A flight where a dog was too big to sit under the seat, the family was escorted off, while a service dog ( the type not formally trained) ran up and down the aisle. It did not seem fair the none paying dog could roam free while the slightly too large dog (fare paying) was kicked off. Getting rid of the dog that was too big to stay under the seat is a step in the right direction. The next step should be to throw the fake service dogs off the airplanes and ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janice M Posted September 30, 2012 #46 Share Posted September 30, 2012 I own a black lab. He is 2years old. I am a diabetic. It use to be under control but is not now. About 9 months ago he came and sat beside me and would not leave. He kept nudging me and nudging me. My husband found it strange and ask me to check my blood sugar. I ask why and he said just do it so I did. It was over 200. Not good. Also if it is time for my meds and I lose track of time he reminds me. He wakes me up at night if things are not right. He has never been "taught" a thing. As our doctor puts it he is atuned to my illness. Would I classify him as a service dog? For me he is. But I would never take him with us on a cruise. He is our pet and baby. He is spoiled rotten. He is nothing like the trained "service dogs". People who abuse this should lose their animal and be charged with abuse. Just MHO On a Celebrity cruise we were on there were 2 service dogs. One was a yellow lab and her owner was diabetic. The other was a Golden retriever-lab mix. Her owner was blind. On Karaoke night the blind lady got up with her dog and sang "God Bless America" That was really something. The dogs were able to take breaks and got to know one another. They even went out on the promonade deck and frolicked around a bit. Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Cruz Chic Posted September 30, 2012 #47 Share Posted September 30, 2012 One of the worst service dogs I saw was in a doggie stroller...other than being some kind of companion I couldn't figure out how that pooch was to help its owner. *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dz9yvr Posted September 30, 2012 #48 Share Posted September 30, 2012 One of the worst service dogs I saw was in a doggie stroller...other than being some kind of companion I couldn't figure out how that pooch was to help its owner. *** RCCL should throw the pooch, the stroller and the owner overboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Cruz Chic Posted September 30, 2012 #49 Share Posted September 30, 2012 RCCL should throw the pooch, the stroller and the owner overboard Sorry I didn't clarify it wasn't on a ship, this was at the hospital in the ER!!! Sick people, allergies, just don't mix!! *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2thesea Posted September 30, 2012 #50 Share Posted September 30, 2012 One has to realize that service dogs come in all shapes and sizes and provide a wide range of services. "Companion" animals are real service dogs if trained as a therapy animal. Companion service animals are widely used for people with Autism which is just one of the disorders they can assist with. Just because the persons disability is not apparent it certainly doesn't mean they don't have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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