chrisb74 Posted February 15, 2013 #5151 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Seams like it would have helped pass the time, I would assume so. Boredom would have been a big problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonqbc Posted February 15, 2013 #5152 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Port state control is world wide, and enforced by each countries Coast Guard Small defects are noted and re-inspected in another port (country) Major Defects will prevent a vessel from sailing the port it is at until fixed. A Report is made at every Port State and put into a data base for other countries to look into once they see which vessels will be calling at their Ports. It is done on all types of vessels, and then you have health inspections re sanitary conditions The industry is very regulated already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisb74 Posted February 15, 2013 #5153 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Do you think the casino was open? Do you think that, without power, they would have run a power-intensive location like the casino? Ship on a stick? All of thing things he mentioned dont need power and most could be done just about anywhere on the ship. They would have been running activities and prize giveaways. It helps stop boredom and keeps morale up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted February 15, 2013 #5154 Share Posted February 15, 2013 The USCG should ground the ccl fleet- prohibit them from leaving a U.S. port until each ship and its logs, are inspected.Passenger safety should come first. Royal Champions and NCL whatevers can only hope. Not going to happen. Carnival does place ship, passenger, and crew safety first. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldocruiser1 Posted February 15, 2013 #5155 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Do you think the casino was open? Do you think that, without power, they would have run a power-intensive location like the casino? Ship on a stick? I know it was closed, I did say for FUN, I don't recall any of the table games taking power, just cards and chips, again play for fun to pass the time. Yes a ship on a stick, if you have ever been on a Carnival cruise you know what that is, and if you have not, well I am not going to tell you the secret of the ship of a stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Louise Posted February 15, 2013 #5156 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Some of the passengers will occur additional expenses or lose of income. Their employer may not pay them for the extra time off of work, if some one parked their car at a paid parking lot, now they have incurred additional parking fees, or having a pet kenneled for extra days. $500 may not cover all of these expenses. This is such a very unfortunate event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted February 15, 2013 #5157 Share Posted February 15, 2013 they are about 5 miles away from docking the ship, getting closer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv cruising 007 Posted February 15, 2013 #5158 Share Posted February 15, 2013 The USCG should ground the ccl fleet- prohibit them from leaving a U.S. port until each ship and its logs, are inspected.Passenger safety should come first. Oh gosh really???? Maybe they should gound all "foreign flagged" cruise ships including ships from your favorite cruise line! Ships need to be safe or they cant be insured & us cruisers cant board them! So i think NOT! BTW have you seen the bureaucrats, nutty tax laws, & antiquated shipping policies of the USA?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted February 15, 2013 #5159 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Since you seem to be an expert on the subject. What is the range for the available helicopters? I'll butt in. http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg7/cg711/h65s.asp http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg7/cg711/h60s.asp There may be commercial aircraft that service oil platforms but I doubt many of their crews have experience supplying powerless ocean going vessels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelgrrl Posted February 15, 2013 #5160 Share Posted February 15, 2013 While the people have been stuck on the ship, and there was nothing to do, Do you think they had any "fun" games in the Casino? Black jack, Craps, other table games, Just for fun, or maybe the entertainment staff having prizes, ship on a stick, funship freddy type of prizes? Seams like it would have helped pass the time, Sometimes I'm a guest lecturer or give classes on cruises and you have to have extra classes ready just in case, for situations like these (or even if a ship misses an anticipated port). On a 7 turned 11 days cruise, I 'worked' a few extra days and there were still activities going on, albeit sparingly. I'm assuming on this trip there wasn't much room to move around, and safety considerations trumped that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennicott Posted February 15, 2013 #5161 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Why should she have to? Cruising Carnival is no super-dooper key to inner knowledge of what is going on in this crisis. Did your kids go to that school in Conn...if not maybe you shouldn't grieve for he loss of the families. How can people be so shallow to think if you didn't attend the movie theatre where those people were slaightered every Sat., you could not emphathize with the horror those people felt. This is the most juvenile, closed minded retort...NAH NAH, YOU DONT CRUISE US...so you have no connection to the human suffering on board?! it's called EMPATHY. People who never went to the moon devised the way to get us there. You embarrass yourself with such a comment. Agreed, but there is more. Since many of us C.C. posters cruise on Carnival Corporation lines it stands to reason that a changing corporate culture of the parent may significantly influence a subsidiary. In this instance, Carnival Cruise Lines seems to be undergoing a proliferation of engine room fires, let us hope that is not a trend. Wise travelers should and do pay attention to stuff like this and express our questions and concerns accordingly. Carnival Corp. owns: AIDA Cruises, Costa Cruise, Cunard, Holland America, Ibero, P&O, P&O Australia, Princess, Seabourn as well as Carnival Cruise Lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Kincaid Posted February 15, 2013 #5162 Share Posted February 15, 2013 The USCG should ground the ccl fleet- prohibit them from leaving a U.S. port until each ship and its logs, are inspected.Passenger safety should come first. On what merits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccersharon Posted February 15, 2013 #5163 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I really, really hope that Carnival gives bonuses to the crew. They are the unsung heroes in this mess. One of the most intelligent posts in this entire thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasvar Posted February 15, 2013 #5164 Share Posted February 15, 2013 All of thing things he mentioned dont need power and most could be done just about anywhere on the ship. They would have been running activities and prize giveaways. It helps stop boredom and keeps morale up. It also might depend on staff availability for some things. I suspect that a lot of crew members were shifted from doing things like entertainment to helping with food transport and other higher priority guest services. So I am not sure how much crew would have been able to entertain. Plus, I'd rather win a hamburger than a ship on a stick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chill6x6 Posted February 15, 2013 #5165 Share Posted February 15, 2013 No rotary winged aircraft can transport enough of anything except acute needs for 4000 folks... Now a C-141/C-5 YES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neveratexan Posted February 15, 2013 #5166 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I know it was closed, I did say for FUN, I don't recall any of the table games taking power, just cards and chips, again play for fun to pass the time. I have been reading this thread for 2 days. My son is a musician on the Triumph. They have performed every day in the casino. I talked to him an hour ago and he had just finished a 2 hour set. He has been working all night some nights on "flashlight duty." He worked facilitating customs today. They really are trying to keep things as positive as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keystonemama Posted February 15, 2013 #5167 Share Posted February 15, 2013 CCL Terry Thornton said they are now moving at 6 knots and should be in terminal between 9:30-10:30. First passengers should be off in about 15-30 minutes after securing the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkBearSF Posted February 15, 2013 #5168 Share Posted February 15, 2013 My wife just waited in line for 1 hour and she had a tomato and asparagus tips!! What a healthy filling meal! Poor planning to serve asparagus when in a "red bag" situation... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasvar Posted February 15, 2013 #5169 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I have been reading this thread for 2 days. My son is a musician on the Triumph. They have performed every day in the casino. I talked to him an hour ago and he had just finished a 2 hour set. He has been working all night some nights on "flashlight duty." He worked facilitating customs today. They really are trying to keep things as positive as possible. Very good to hear. I figured they would have to take on extra duty. I'm glad they were still able to provide some diversions. I hope Carnival treats him as well as he and the rest of crew treated the passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted February 15, 2013 #5170 Share Posted February 15, 2013 The USCG should ground the ccl fleet- prohibit them from leaving a U.S. port until each ship and its logs, are inspected.Passenger safety should come first. Perhaps you'd care to suggest the appropriate levels of compensation for the 60,000 - 70,000 passengers who would be out vacations each week, and the 20,000 or so crew who would be out wages as a result of this suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrp96 Posted February 15, 2013 #5171 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I have been reading this thread for 2 days. My son is a musician on the Triumph. They have performed every day in the casino. I talked to him an hour ago and he had just finished a 2 hour set. He has been working all night some nights on "flashlight duty." He worked facilitating customs today. They really are trying to keep things as positive as possible. Sounds like your son and his fellow crew members have been absolutely fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeagleOne Posted February 15, 2013 #5172 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Press conference brought to an end as reporter asking about compensation for passengers' lost wages. Deck and engine crews staying with the ship to help move it. Hotel staff going to hotels. Contract employees either going on vacation early (paid) or transferred to other ships. No word from Gerry Cahill, although he is reportedly there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinty76 Posted February 15, 2013 #5173 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Wow, just watched the press event with the VP of Carnival. It really doesn't sound like they are going to do much for the crew... That is absolutely TERRIBLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImmortalxKiss Posted February 15, 2013 #5174 Share Posted February 15, 2013 One of the most intelligent posts in this entire thread! Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txnana2419 Posted February 15, 2013 #5175 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I have been on many cruises and I can't tell you how many times they anchor out away from the dock/port and they tender ALL passengers into the dock. (This is world wide) Are you saying that this is unsafe? Are you saying that it is placing passengers at risk? My goodness then the maritime community better look into this practice at once and stop it immediately for safety sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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