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njhorseman

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njhorseman

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Lets say if tenders be used would that mean that the casino can stay open? If I have to use tender and expected to be docked right at the pier I say keep the casino open because many will not want to go back and fourth I know I won't maybe I get off one day but if they only have that one tender that holds 700 people, do you realize all the lines and waiting people on the Breakaway would need to do?

 

Suppose.....lets say and this is far fetched lets say...what if she not go to Bermuda where else would she go? Im just asking.

 

No, the casino could not open. The ship would still be anchored within Bermuda's territorial waters, not at sea in international waters.

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If the damage has been caused by the ships thrusters why can't the just dock like they use to? That is using the help of two tugs to get the ship against the dock and also pulling it away. This way the pressure of the water is not forced against the walls. It was done like this for many years, and still is with large cargo container, oil tanker ships who don't have bow or stern thrusters

 

The damage was initially caused by Hurricane Igor and just worsened by the ship thrusters. But the major point is that the entire quay is both structurally unsound, and neither long enough nor strong enough to allow the Breakaway to dock there.

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Yeah all I know is we're on the Breakaway on 5/19, and all of our information from NCL clearly states we'll be at King's Wharf specifically.
As already posted....it has been listed like that for years....however NCL uses Heritage Wharf.
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Our final payment on the Dawn for a May cruise was last week. I went ahead and cancelled. There is just too much uncertainty. I hope it all works out as promised by Bermuda. However, Bermuda is about being docked and free to come and go at your leisure for the time there. My wife is having way too much trouble with her knees and trying to tender numerous time, standing and waiting for a tender, or even sitting on the tender for prolonged periods waiting for it to fill, was just not something we want to do. We'll try Bermuda another season after all this is resolved. (Of course, we did hurry and grab a cruise next month instead on our beloved Pearl).

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NJhorseman thanks for that map! I figured the casino won't be open but was hoping lol. So NCL has wrong info...the dock is not safe....doesn't NCL have to check and inspect the dock for the Breakaway or do they totally rely on Bermuda to do it.

 

You wouldn't know which side of the ship will be facing the dock would you?\

 

Lets suppose something happens and some people are on land and the ship is no longer docked but there in the water of course, how would they get those passengers back on the ship? I realize I shouldn't be saying this but what if...

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NJhorseman thanks for that map! I figured the casino won't be open but was hoping lol. So NCL has wrong info...the dock is not safe....doesn't NCL have to check and inspect the dock for the Breakaway or do they totally rely on Bermuda to do it.

 

You wouldn't know which side of the ship will be facing the dock would you?\

 

Lets suppose something happens and some people are on land and the ship is no longer docked but there in the water of course, how would they get those passengers back on the ship? I realize I shouldn't be saying this but what if...

 

Bermuda owns the dock and is responsible for repairs. NCL is just a tenant. Bermuda has known about the need to repair/expand Heritage Wharf for a long time...more than enough time to get the job done, and they've been assuring NCL it will be done...but Bermuda's government has a long history of promising things they can't deliver (cruise ships being allowed to operate casinos while in port among the biggest). To complicate matters, a new government came into power recently.

 

Ships can and do dock facing in either direction. it depends on which lifeboats need to be dropped into the water for testing and other ship maintenance needs.

 

If a ship is no longer at the pier for some reason (and it has happened) they'll tender you out to the ship as long as weather permits. I know in the Falkland Islands (and maybe elsewhere) passengers have occasionally been temporarily been stranded on shore when weather suddenly turned bad making tender operation unsafe. They've had to stay ashore until the weather improved the next morning.

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Lets suppose something happens and some people are on land and the ship is no longer docked but there in the water of course, how would they get those passengers back on the ship? I realize I shouldn't be saying this but what if...

 

They would have to swim out to the ship, and climb up the rope ladders.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Thank you very much NJhorseman

 

So we totally are at the mercy of Bermuda and trusting that their dock keep us safe and not mentioning keeping the ship safe to?

 

I beleive every word you saying, so what if....lets say something happens where the dock cannot be used for the Breakaway, what do you think will be NCL plan on how to get people ashore? Maybe I too much being two steps ahead of everything but its a good question I think.

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Thank you very much NJhorseman

 

So we totally are at the mercy of Bermuda and trusting that their dock keep us safe and not mentioning keeping the ship safe to?

 

I beleive every word you saying, so what if....lets say something happens where the dock cannot be used for the Breakaway, what do you think will be NCL plan on how to get people ashore? Maybe I too much being two steps ahead of everything but its a good question I think.

 

I edited my last post to add some additional information that may help answer your questions.

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You wouldn't know which side of the ship will be facing the dock would you?\

 

Judging from watching NCL bow cams over the last few years, they dock on the port side roughly 3 weeks out of 4, and they dock on starboard side 1 week out of 4. It can vary, but this seems to be the norm.

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NJhorseman how many tenders does Bermuda have and how many passengers would they hold?

 

Turtles06 I like the idea of ropes alot faster than tenders...hahaha anyways, I meant about whether Bermuda has tenders for us to use.

 

Bermuda has the one large tender, "Bermudian". There are private operators who likely have boats that could be used, but my guess is NCL would rather use its own lifeboats as tenders rather than contracting with operators they don't know very much about.

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Bermuda has the one large tender, "Bermudian". There are private operators who likely have boats that could be used, but my guess is NCL would rather use its own lifeboats as tenders rather than contracting with operators they don't know very much about.

 

We used The Bermudian on the Hal Veendam when we tendered into St.George. The Bermudian did suffer damage from Hurricane Igor in September 2010. The Bermudian

Was eventually repaired and was in service at the dockyard last August, 2012.

 

http://bernews.com/2010/09/ferry-dragged-off-rocks-heading-dockyard/

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Ok, lets say we not using the dock and using the tender after reading that article above, I not want Bermuda to transport me back and fourth I want and trust NCL!!!

 

We tendered from NCL Dawn this past summer . She used her lifeboats to tender as well as the Bermudian . We tendered into Hamilton from anchorage near dockyard.

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If a ship is no longer at the pier for some reason (and it has happened) they'll tender you out to the ship as long as weather permits. I know in the Falkland Islands (and maybe elsewhere) passengers have occasionally been temporarily been stranded on shore when weather suddenly turned bad making tender operation unsafe. They've had to stay ashore until the weather improved the next morning.

 

That's crazy! They'd really leave you there overnight?! Now I'm afraid to go LOL

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That's crazy! They'd really leave you there overnight?! Now I'm afraid to go LOL

 

If I recall what happened in the Falklands, cruise passengers who were stranded ended up spending the night in private homes and churches.

 

I wouldn't worry about it...it's a once in a blue moon sort of occurrence.

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