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I hereby request that the QM2 make stops in Hamilton , Bermuda(AS done in Halifax) The QV,and Queen Elizabeth should do the same.

Bermuda is warmer and more attractive than Halifax, and Cunard Ships are registered in Hamilton ,Bermuda.

If you agree, we should let the Head Office know and make it happen.:D

 

 

I've only been to Port Hamilton three times, most recently last year on the Veendam. (Bermuda is no longer on the itinerary). I don't think it is possible for QM2 to dock in Hamilton, unlike Halifax. Tendering is not a viable option in Bermuda, according to what I have read.

 

Clearly, the economy of Bermuda has suffered, partly as a result of reduced cruise ship visits; concessions have been made in an effort to encourage their return. For example: Bermuda recently allowed casinos on board cruise ships to be open while in port: "... New Bermuda legislation, entitled the Cruise Ship (Casino) Act 2013, has passed and will be implemented for the 2014 Bermuda season. Cruise ship casinos may open from 9 p.m. to 5 a.m. while on overnight port calls..." quoted from http://www.travelagentcentral.com/ocean-cruises/got-game-bermudas-parliament-approves-night-time-gaming-overnighted-ships-42998

 

Imagine a round trip QV cruise, NY to Bermuda...7 nights, 4 nights docked in Hamilton.:)

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I've only been to Port Hamilton three times, most recently last year on the Veendam. (Bermuda is no longer on the itinerary). I don't think it is possible for QM2 to dock in Hamilton, unlike Halifax. Tendering is not a viable option in Bermuda, according to what I have read.

 

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It is apparent that the docking arrangements in Hamilton have improved. In the 1970s we went ashore in Hamilton twice: once on a cruise in Holland America's Rotterdam and once on a liner voyage on P&O's Oriana. (These were the previous ships of those names, not the current ones). Neither of these ships could dock because of their size. The Rotterdam was a little under 40,000 GRT and the Oriana just over - small ships by today's standards. We were told the difficulty was the shallowness of the channel approaching Hamilton. From both ships we were tendered by a large shore-based tender as opposed to the ship's own tenders.

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RMS Queen Mary 2 arriving in Brooklyn ,NY .Sunday October 26,2013 from Halifax 2,600 passengers.

M/S Aida ,arriving NY Piers, October 26,2013 from Bermuda, 2,048 passengers.

M/S Breakaway arriving NY Piers,October 26,2013 from Orlando, Florida,4000 passengers

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RMS Queen Mary 2 arriving in Brooklyn ,NY .Sunday October 26,2013 from Halifax 2,600 passengers.

M/S Aida ,arriving NY Piers, October 26,2013 from Bermuda, 2,048 passengers.

M/S Breakaway arriving NY Piers,October 26,2013 from Orlando, Florida,4000 passengers

 

From Quebec surely?

 

I've noticed that the sea-scanner website has some inaccuracies at the moment, e.g.

Arrival will be in 1 hrs 32 min. (at 09:00 h local time)

even though the webcam picture clearly shows it already docked.

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From Quebec surely?

 

I've noticed that the sea-scanner website has some inaccuracies at the moment, e.g.

Arrival will be in 1 hrs 32 min. (at 09:00 h local time)

 

even though the webcam picture clearly shows it already docked.

 

According to Marine Traffic, she has docked in Halifax again on her way back to NY, which was not scheduled. There were many inaccuracies for several days. :confused:

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4-Nov-13 Southampton

5-Nov-13 At sea to Hamburg

6-Nov-13 Hamburg

7-Nov At sea to Oslo

8-Nov Oslo, Norway

9-Nov At sea to Hamburg

10-Nov Hamburg

11-Nov At sea to Southampton

12-Nov Southampton

HI,Thanks for the update in schedule. It seems the QM2 had some weather

due to an enormous low in the North Atlantic, from Greenland to the UK.

So the QM2 is doing a Northern European cruise in November.

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PARTIAL QUOTE

 

Doesn't seem that long ago that QM2 was doing r/t NY-Caribbean cruises in November/December <sigh> those were the days !

 

We miss this December cruises so much as they were part of our yearly routine. I canot see an alterntive as either the ship is to small (Sebourn) ore not sufficient at all or to many and noisy passengers or trip to short or boring.

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HI,Thanks for the update in schedule. It seems the QM2 had some weather

due to an enormous low in the North Atlantic, from Greenland to the UK.

So the QM2 is doing a Northern European cruise in November.

 

As long as the wind is pushing the ship it is OK even with 8 Beaufort. But on a westerly course the china and the passengers will suffer a little this week...

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4-Nov-13 Southampton

5-Nov-13 At sea to Hamburg

6-Nov-13 Hamburg

7-Nov At sea to Oslo

8-Nov Oslo, Norway

9-Nov At sea to Hamburg

10-Nov Hamburg

11-Nov At sea to Southampton

12-Nov Southampton

 

This is the anticipated "Stars at Sea" itinerary isn't it? The one where, from Hamburg to Hamburg the dress code is "jeans on"?

 

http://cruiseforums.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1845698

 

If so, some of the round trip, Southampton to Southampton, reviews should make for some interesting reading! According to ask.cunard, they are listing a black & white formal night on the 7th:

 

https://ask.cunard.com/resources/carnivaluk/life-on-board/qm_dresscodesv9.pdf

 

Mind you, you do get black, and white, jeans!

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As long as the wind is pushing the ship it is OK even with 8 Beaufort. But on a westerly course the china and the passengers will suffer a little this week...

Sorry to disagree but here in the West Country and English Channel, westerly winds are not a huge problem. Last night we had severe gales increasing to storm force West to South Westerly winds and quite small fishing craft were still out plying their trade. I guarantee that with just gale force easterly winds we will see these craft already in harbour and our bay quite crowded with coasters taking shelter. I am positive that on some coasts these winds may have differing effects but in the English Channel, western Approaches of the Atlantic... The easterly winds are a beast.

 

To bring a smile to your face, I once heard a fisherman describe Easterly winds as being 'lazy winds!'

 

when I queried this remark, he smiled and simply said, "They winds are too lazy to go around you.... They winds cut right through you!!"

 

so very true and something I never forgot ;)

 

I hate disagreeing with anyone and please do not think I am arguing with you, I am sure you have good reason for saying what you have said but this is an image of shipping in the English Channel as we speak. Note all the orange coloured icons.... They are small fishing boats plying their trade and the winds at the moment are force 7 gusting to gale force 8 North West to West. If the winds were blowing from the East those 'orange' boats would be having a really horrible ride and quite possibly the skippers would be setting course for home. Southampton is sadly just to the right of this crop. Looking at the full image the old ocean going liner Boudicca is just passing the Isle of Wight

 

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Sorry to disagree but here in the West Country and English Channel, westerly winds are not a huge problem. Last night we had severe gales increasing to storm force West to South Westerly winds and quite small fishing craft were still out plying their trade. I guarantee that with just gale force easterly winds we will see these craft already in harbour and our bay quite crowded with coasters taking shelter. I am positive that on some coasts these winds may have differing effects but in the English Channel, western Approaches of the Atlantic... The easterly winds are a beast.

 

To bring a smile to your face, I once heard a fisherman describe Easterly winds as being 'lazy winds!'

 

when I queried this remark, he smiled and simply said, "They winds are too lazy to go around you.... They winds cut right through you!!"

 

so very true and something I never forgot ;)

 

I hate disagreeing with anyone and please do not think I am arguing with you, I am sure you have good reason for saying what you have said but this is an image of shipping in the English Channel as we speak. Note all the orange coloured icons.... They are small fishing boats plying their trade and the winds at the moment are force 7 gusting to gale force 8 North West to West. If the winds were blowing from the East those 'orange' boats would be having a really horrible ride and quite possibly the skippers would be setting course for home. Southampton is sadly just to the right of this crop. Looking at the full image the old ocean going liner Boudicca is just passing the Isle of Wight

 

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We agree disagreeing...

 

I do write out of personal experience on QM2 and from living at a beach front on the western Baltic coast.

 

Fisherboats are not an indicator of possible discomfort on QM2. They sail in almost any westher.

I have taken a series of high speed fotos passing the Irish channel (on QM2 eastbound TA in November) during westerly gales of a northbound container feeder. We felt pretty comfortable but the feeders bridge was moving 30 degrees to each side within 20 seconds. The bridge was on level with deck 9 which makes it quite a move for the team of the bridge.

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We agree disagreeing...

 

I do write out of personal experience on QM2 and from living at a beach front on the western Baltic coast.

 

Fisherboats are not an indicator of possible discomfort on QM2. They sail in almost any westher.

I have taken a series of high speed fotos passing the Irish channel (on QM2 eastbound TA in November) during westerly gales of a northbound container feeder. We felt pretty comfortable but the feeders bridge was moving 30 degrees to each side within 20 seconds. The bridge was on level with deck 9 which makes it quite a move for the team of the bridge.

I respect you live on the Western Baltic coast and I would be an idiot to tell you about weather patterns in your area. I live quite literally on the on the coast of the English Channel\Western Approaches and when I say Easterly winds are feared by our local seamen, I am not making that up. I owned a 30ft motor cruiser and would not have any worries or concerns about being out in a force 8 or maybe severe gale force 9 Westerly winds but a 5 or at worse a force 6 Easterly would see me running for the marina.

 

To highlight how close I live to the sea this is the view from one of our front windows over looking Torbay and out into the channel.

QM2DSC_0036c_zps28ab1a7f.jpg

 

The rear of our property we overlook Lyme Bay and during the last severe Easterly gales a cliff face was washed away causing parts of a very nice house to fall into the sea. Last week-end we had as you know hurricane force westerly winds and the sea never got near those cliffs.

 

I do not doubt you took your pictures and they are as you describe but if you were in the Western Approaches, as opposed to the Irish Channel (the gap further to the North that stretches between Ireland and the UK) then they would have been even more spectacular in you had encountered Easterly severe or Storm force winds. ;) Trust me and to suggest our small fishing boats fish in those conditions is just plain wrong :)

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I respect you live on the Western Baltic coast and I would be an idiot to tell you about weather patterns in your area. I live quite literally on the on the coast of the English Channel\Western Approaches and when I say Easterly winds are feared by our local seamen, I am not making that up.

 

Hi Glojo, I have never questioned your position on the difference between easterly and westerly winds in your area. My position was that winds can be bad on a TA and that gales from the aft are not as bad as gales from any other side. You will probably agree that in November/December westerly winds are quiet common in the North-Atlantic? So that they have more impact on a westbound TA?

 

I owned a 30ft motor cruiser and would not have any worries or concerns about being out in a force 8 or maybe severe gale force 9 Westerly winds but a 5 or at worse a force 6 Easterly would see me running for the marina.

 

Same here, but easterly winds are rare, westerly winds common and take our water away to the eastern shores (bathtube-effect) and send the water back after a day causing severe floodings. Our cliff is loosing 10 ft per year since a few years, two houses have been lost within last year alone. Unfortunately I would not get my wife on our boat if a 5 is to be expected and so I cannot share your experience:o. She is the granddaughter of a cruise ship captain - but he was probably most of his time time not at home;)

 

Last week the wind got up to a strong 12 but as it was southwesterly only a few trees fell and the water got pushed away causing our busy harbour to close for traffic.

 

To highlight how close I live to the sea this is the view from one of our front windows over looking Torbay and out into the channel.

 

The rear of our property we overlook Lyme Bay and during the last severe Easterly gales a cliff face was washed away causing parts of a very nice house to fall into the sea. Last week-end we had as you know hurricane force westerly winds and the sea never got near those cliffs.

 

A wonderful area were you live. I used to stay in your area for weekends when I lived in England. Loooking at the geographical situation of your place it clearly shows why easterly winds are affecting your area more than westerly winds. But I once stayed at St. Mawes, Cornwall for a vacation of three weeks in August. No winds at all, but thick fog from the day of arrival for 2 weeks...

 

I do not doubt you took your pictures and they are as you describe but if you were in the Western Approaches, as opposed to the Irish Channel (the gap further to the North that stretches between Ireland and the UK) then they would have been even more spectacular in you had encountered Easterly severe or Storm force winds. ;) Trust me and to suggest our small fishing boats fish in those conditions is just plain wrong :)

 

No doubt at all - still it wouldn't have been to comfortable on the mentioned container feeder...

 

Let's hope that the weather will be acceptable troughout the winter.

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Hi Cunard Addict;)

Very wise words which I endorse completely.

 

As you rightly say Easterly winds are quite rare and thankfully we experience them more in the summer months than winter when as once more you are correct to say the prevailing winds are usually from a Westerly direction.

 

Last year we had an extra-ordinary number of Easterly gales and to highlight the power of these winds, this is an image taken approximately two years ago when this property which is just 1.8 miles away had already been abandoned due to subsidence

 

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I took this picture from our rear bedrtoom window two weeks ago

 

 

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It is the exact same property, the cliff face has been battered by these horrendous Easterly winds.

 

Since taking that picture we have experienced hurricane force westerly winds. That hurricane removed a few more loose tiles but structurally it had no effect on either the remains or the cliff face. The waves never got near these cliffs which in turn meant no further subsidence. The Westerly hurricane had no effect but a mere force 8 Easterly, will no doubt finish off this property.

 

Obviously I cannot comment on wind behaviour in other coastal regions but I do recall those sudden, horrible Easterly gales in the Mediterranean which I believe, but stand to be corrected were called something like the Levant winds. On a small ship it made entering this region 'interesting' and a good excuse for taking shelter at Gibraltar :)

 

Apologies for going off topic but this does highlight the terrifying power of the sea. In just two years waves washed away a cliff thaty had been a part of this coast ever since this coastline was created.

 

This is an image of that property in 1996 when we can how it is some distance from the cliffs but the erosion has just started off to the right hand side.

 

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Out of interest, is the QM2 going into Blohm + Voss between 6th and 10th November or is she doing a mini cruise from Hamburg ?

 

Between the 6th and 10th of November, the QM2 is sailing from Hamburg to Oslo and back. This will be the "Stars at Sea" voyage with German rock star Peter Maffay.

 

Regards,

John.

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