What would you eliminate on CCL to get a 25% fare reduction across the board

[LMaxwell]

I started a thread to ask people what they wanted to see return or changed on CCL ships to entice people back to the line. Instead I got met with a lot of feedback by people who said they are happy with the product that is offered now and they don't want things that would raise prices. PERFECTLY FAIR RESPONSE.

 

But, you know what's I found odd? No one here has said they want a lower price. Isn't that odd? So they are all saying nothing about Carnival could be changed to encourage them to come back more, or more often?

 

What if I told you that CCL cruise rates would be 25% off what they are today, across the board, what would you be willing to give up to accept that cut? What would you be willing to get rid of to save 25% off of todays fares? We could eliminate MDR breakfast/brunch. We could make it where MDR is dinner ONLY, the rest of the food is on the Lido. We could eliminate towel animals. We could eliminate TV programming. We could eliminate luggage mats for the bed. We could eliminate the sampler toiletry kit.

 

So many people claim they "could care less" (when they meant "couldn't care less) about making improvements to the product, so now let me put to the community plainly; what would you give up if it meant saving 25% off todays rates. Would it make a difference in you choosing CCL and would you cruise more often at a reduced rate?

[golfadj]

Dont give them more ideas, they have taken away enough.

[LMaxwell]

Dont give them more ideas, they have taken away enough.

 

Hey, please come in to the other thread and feel free to make suggestions about things you would like to see restored/changed and if you personally would be willing to see a fare increase to have them, if so how much, etc.

 

I guess you answer for here is that you don't want more taken away and the fares are low enough now for your comfort and that you wouldn't want any more cuts made to reduce the fares. ?

[okgirl]

They could eliminate any of the Branded venues like the George Lopez Comedy Club or the Guy's burgers. They probably paid a pretty penny to use those names.......same goes with the new Dr. Seuss branding.

[meatloafsfan]

Evening shows and live music.

 

If they got rid of those singers and dancers, and could give me a 25% cruise fare reduction across the board, I'd be happy with the comedy clubs, kareoke and DJs.

[LBroxon]

Just so you know, the sample toiletries that you mentioned are free of cost for the cruise line. They are free advertising for the companies whose products are there, just like a sample you would receive in the mail.

[arush5268d]

Please remove this thread. If Carnival sees that the customers will allow other things to be cut then they will likely do so.

 

Soon it will just be a metal hull and things that resemble beds. Carnival will be rebranded with Wal-Mart colors. They will introduce a Brilliant, Ground BReaking, Industry Shattering new category of rooms - combined room lodging. You'll share a large room (say, 30'x30') with 20-50 other cruisers, stacked 2-4 high depending on your cruise fare.

 

This way they can cram 5 times as many people onto a ship and really drive profits through the roof.

[arush5268d]

They could eliminate any of the Branded venues like the George Lopez Comedy Club or the Guy's burgers. They probably paid a pretty penny to use those names.......same goes with the new Dr. Seuss branding.

 

+1

 

A huge waste of money, IMHO. Guy might have had his hands in a bit but I doubt Lopez did anything otyher than film those introduction videos.

[cruisinfanatic]

Financial Breakdown of Typical Cruiser

 

Disney Cruise Lines’ Disney Wonder in Port Canaveral (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

 

Ever wonder where the money goes? Here is a break down of the estimated 2013 average cruise revenue and expense per passenger for all cruise lines world wide. The average per passenger per day is projected to be $200.85, with $152.39 ticket price and $48.47 on board spending (average cruise duration 8.5 days, median duration 7.0 days).

A financial breakdown of typical cruiser (worldwide, across all cruise lines)

RevenueExpenses

Ticket$1,311

 

Onboard Spending$417

 

-Casino & Bar$222

 

-Shore excursions (cruise line portion)$81

 

-Spa $40

 

-All other onboard spending$61

 

Total spending$1,728

 

 

 

 

 

Other operating costs

$251 14.5%Agent commission

$225 13.0%Ship fuel costs

$221 12.8%Corporate Operating Costs

$200 11.6%Payroll

$190 11.0%Depreciation/Amortization

$166 9.6%Victualing (food)

$104 6.0%Onboard and other

$76 4.4%Other and transportation

$57 3.3%Interest Expense

$54 3.1%Total Expenses

$1,543

Profit before taxes

$185 10.7%

Edited December 13, 2013 by SeaUs

[YubaSutter]

We could get rid of the cruise director, production shows, pools and hot tubs, and kids club for starters.

[awhcruiser]

Why get rid of the pools? We can't wait to swim as soon as we embark.

We could get rid of the cruise director, production shows, pools and hot tubs, and kids club for starters.

[arush5268d]

Financial Breakdown of Typical Cruiser

 

Disney Cruise Lines’ Disney Wonder in Port Canaveral (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

 

Ever wonder where the money goes? Here is a break down of the estimated 2013 average cruise revenue and expense per passenger for all cruise lines world wide. The average per passenger per day is projected to be $200.85, with $152.39 ticket price and $48.47 on board spending (average cruise duration 8.5 days, median duration 7.0 days).

A financial breakdown of typical cruiser (worldwide, across all cruise lines)

RevenueExpenses

Ticket$1,311

 

Onboard Spending$417

 

-Casino & Bar$222

 

-Shore excursions (cruise line portion)$81

 

-Spa $40

 

-All other onboard spending$61

 

Total spending$1,728

 

 

 

 

 

Other operating costs

$251 14.5%Agent commission

$225 13.0%Ship fuel costs

$221 12.8%Corporate Operating Costs

$200 11.6%Payroll

$190 11.0%Depreciation/Amortization

$166 9.6%Victualing (food)

$104 6.0%Onboard and other

$76 4.4%Other and transportation

$57 3.3%Interest Expense

$54 3.1%Total Expenses

$1,543

Profit before taxes

$185 10.7%

 

Food costs are way way way way lower on CCL. Food costs per person on board for a 7 day are around $53/person.

[LMaxwell]

Yeah, why eliminate the pools? I may live where it's warm but I also realize that a week long caribbean cruise is a lot of folks only opportunity once a year to enjoy a pool. I think wanting to eliminate that for a fare reduction you are going to find yourself on your own with.

 

I don't even see how that would be practical? The pools are built into the structure of the ship. What do you do, board it up and play dizzy bat?

[kcwingwalker]

OK Carnival could eliminate all the exercise equipment and we could all take turns rowing.................enough has already been eliminated!

[golfadj]

George lopez adds nothing. Guys burger are fine but the brand doesnt do much to get me back on the ship.

[PittsburghGirlee]

The BEARDS:D;)

[DirtyDawg]

WOW 25% :eek: That's a big price cut.

 

Here are some the big things our cruise fare pays for. (cruise fare is 100%)

 

Fuel 20%

Payroll 15%

Food 8%

 

All the other stuff like Commissions, Sales and Marketing, Interest, Ship Maintenance etc. take up the rest.

 

So if we chop 50% off each of the Fuel, Payroll and Food costs we could get close to a 25% reduction in the cruise fare. Hmmm, But how?

 

Fuel. Cut that cost by just not going anywhere. Pull out of Port, go out 20 or 30 miles and drift for 7 days. Hey, who needs another trip to Nassau or Freeport anyways.

 

Payroll and Food. Cut the wait and kitchen staff entirely. We won't need them because dining will be prepacked baloney sandwiches. Yummy! Can't wait.;)

 

I wonder which wine pairs best with baloney?

Edited December 13, 2013 by DirtyDawg

[satbeachbill]

Tablecloths?

Edited December 13, 2013 by satbeachbill

[CruisinCrow]

I really don't want them to eliminate anything else. If they do, they will just start charging for it somewhere else (like the ice cream and cappuccinos). I'd prefer to just pay for everything in the price of my fare and not get nickled and dimed.

[richard1s]

Pull out of Port, go out 20 or 30 miles and drift for 7 days.

 

Didn't they already try that earlier this year?

[Dixie24]

Robes and chocolates on the pillows. Although cutting the chocolates would only save me about 0.10 per cruise probably.

[cruizinisthebest]

I'm fine with the rates as they are. Carnival gives a nice cruise experience for a reasonable price in most cases. And if you book far enough in advance, you can save 25% or more on your own from your original booking simply watching for price reductions. Their fares fluctuate so often, they don't need to drop the starting points on anything IMO. If I go on a land based cruise, I'm typically going to spend more for almost round the clock food, gym access, pools, entertainment (whether I like it or not), transportation to island hop, and accommodations. On my last trip, I missd the midnight buffet, but totally see why they got rid of it. I can't image all the food that was wasted. Nothing needs to be eliminated.

[arush5268d]

Didn't they already try that earlier this year?

 

The current was too strong and they still had burn a good amount of fuel to maintain steerage.

[vols_159]

table cloths...

[Sh1035]

Charge for room service and only allow one entree, one trip to the buffet, etc. Sick of seeing all the wasted food and the size of the people shoveling it down at the buffet.

 

If complainers want better shows charge them for a ticket. Better meal try the steakhouse.