jp30338 Posted February 10, 2014 #26 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) Actually, rum runners do make me nuts - and so I've simply learned to avoid those threads ahead of time (forewarned is forearmed). It makes me furious if I think about all those people proud about smuggling and thinking that it's OK to violate whatever rules don't please them. I smuggle on 4 bottles of wine instead of the 2 allowed! Edited February 10, 2014 by jp30338 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calliopecruiser Posted February 10, 2014 #27 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I smuggle on 4 bottles of wine instead of the 2 allowed! I would never have gotten anywhere in life had I not learned to allow not myself to be baited by trolls, and learned to choose my battles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp30338 Posted February 10, 2014 #28 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Not trolling just sharing my experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calliopecruiser Posted February 10, 2014 #29 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Not trolling just sharing my experiences. The fact that you chose now, in this thread (which has nothing to do with smuggling, or with alcohol) tells me that it's more than what you claim :) But go right on believing in your innocence, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacari_ja Posted February 10, 2014 #30 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I have recently started vaping instead of smoking cigarettes. There is no tar in the vapor and the only smell is from the fruity flavors of e-liquid I use. I am sailing on carnival in September and I am wondering if they consider vapor pens to be "e-cigarettes" in their smoking policy. (Vaping is allowed all places smoking is not where I'm from, as there is no second hand smoke or odor) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk If you are using any of the fruity flavours there is indeed a smell some quite strong like someone has used too much perfume or aftershave and can bring on migraines if you are allergic to strong smells. Mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock43031 Posted February 10, 2014 #31 Share Posted February 10, 2014 If you are using any of the fruity flavours there is indeed a smell some quite strong like someone has used too much perfume or aftershave and can bring on migraines if you are allergic to strong smells.Mary so outlaw perfume and gum.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rileylewis Posted February 10, 2014 #32 Share Posted February 10, 2014 so outlaw perfume and gum.. Gum does not have such a strong odor as to cause headaches but some perfumes not only can give me a headache but can make it hard for me to breathe. Sent from my SCH-S720C using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calliopecruiser Posted February 11, 2014 #33 Share Posted February 11, 2014 so outlaw perfume and gum.. Actually, a growing number of places (eg offices, clinics, schools, churches) are going "scent free", and perfumes, strongly scented hair products or antiperspirants, etc are forbidden. Likewise scented candles and potpourri, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock43031 Posted February 11, 2014 #34 Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) Actually, a growing number of places (eg offices, clinics, schools, churches) are going "scent free", and perfumes, strongly scented hair products or antiperspirants, etc are forbidden. Likewise scented candles and potpourri, etc. and who decides how much is too much? no cruise employee is going to have the jewels to tell grandma she has on too much perfume! no one in a church is going to tell granny she has on to to much perfume sorry there's the door. Edited February 11, 2014 by Sherlock43031 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calliopecruiser Posted February 11, 2014 #35 Share Posted February 11, 2014 and who decides how much is too much? no cruise employee is going to have the jewels to tell grandma she has on too much perfume! no one in a church is going to tell granny she has on to to much perfume sorry there's the door. Well, yeah, they do........in fact, there have been claims that it might even be an ADA requirement in some cases. Any church, school, or workplace that makes it a policy will have mechanisms in place to enforce it. Probably, realistically, that granny will get a warning or two before being shown the door, so she understands the policy and realizes that she's actually violating it. You don't think it happens in real life? You bet is does, and my best friend had to change her morning routine (and hairstyle) to accommodate her new job. She loved her job more than that hairstyle ;) No, your average cruise porter may not going to say anything, but they will inform the management whose job it is to have "the jewels" to uphold cruise policy. Just like any other policy (like smoking, causing a drunken disturbance, or smuggling). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock43031 Posted February 11, 2014 #36 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Well, yeah, they do........in fact, there have been claims that it might even be an ADA requirement in some cases. Any church, school, or workplace that makes it a policy will have mechanisms in place to enforce it. Probably, realistically, that granny will get a warning or two before being shown the door, so she understands the policy and realizes that she's actually violating it. You don't think it happens in real life? You bet is does, and my best friend had to change her morning routine (and hairstyle) to accommodate her new job. She loved her job more than that hairstyle ;) No, your average cruise porter may not going to say anything, but they will inform the management whose job it is to have "the jewels" to uphold cruise policy. Just like any other policy (like smoking, causing a drunken disturbance, or smuggling). see you are confusing enforcing a rule on somewhere where I'm paying (they are making $$$) and at work where the offender is being paid. anyway, good luck.. I hope you get all your frustrations resolved. so far management has not enforced much on a cruise.. smoking, rum runners, dress codes, serving too much booze to drunks, using the hand sanitizer, no one is posted in the public restrooms to enforce hand washing, hookers working the bars and casino, waiters telling folks they don't need that much food in the WJ. screwing on the balcony, sick people getting on the boat, so if stink is going to be enforced who going to tell the guy wearing the wife beater that he needs a shower or some of the non-first world folks they need to shower? whatever.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustCruiseMe Posted February 12, 2014 #37 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Gum does not have such a strong odor as to cause headaches but some perfumes not only can give me a headache but can make it hard for me to breathe. Sent from my SCH-S720C using Tapatalk 2 I wasn't going to jump in on here but reading your post, I had to. You are so wrong have you ever smelt someone chewing that watermelon gum, or that green apple? I can't stand to be in the same room with them, they smell... OK back to regular programing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustCruiseMe Posted February 12, 2014 #38 Share Posted February 12, 2014 see you are confusing enforcing a rule on somewhere where I'm paying (they are making $$$) and at work where the offender is being paid. anyway, good luck.. I hope you get all your frustrations resolved. so far management has not enforced much on a cruise.. smoking, rum runners, dress codes, serving too much booze to drunks, using the hand sanitizer, no one is posted in the public restrooms to enforce hand washing, hookers working the bars and casino, waiters telling folks they don't need that much food in the WJ. screwing on the balcony, sick people getting on the boat, so if stink is going to be enforced who going to tell the guy wearing the wife beater that he needs a shower or some of the non-first world folks they need to shower? whatever.. You forgot the chair hogs and the babies in the pools with diapers, oh yes the line cutters too...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpyjr88 Posted February 16, 2014 #39 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Geez, some people really need to get a life. :rolleyes: Stick to the non-flavored juice and the sticks that don't look like a cigarette and you'll be fine. Most people won't care or even notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisin' Chick Posted February 17, 2014 #40 Share Posted February 17, 2014 It took a while before studies came out that showed how dangerous smoking is (and I imagine part of that reason is due to tobacco companies blocking them). So I wouldn't be surprised if sometime in the future, it will be shown that these e-cigarettes are also dangerous, both for the users and the people around them. There is not one single health benefit to smoking. For some people, a glass of wine a day may actually be beneficial. But for smokers who are claiming that e-cigarettes of any kind (including the vapor types) won't harm others have no way of knowing that for sure. And just want to justify, to themselves and others, their horrible addiction. Smokers are becoming a minority in this world due to attrition (death as a result of smoking), and due to some people who did realize they can kick the habit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whataboutport Posted February 17, 2014 #41 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I agree. I find the sweet odors as annoying as smoke odors. And, there is nicotine in the liquids that I've seen. Yes, I read labels. I'm not sure that they are all that "safe". I find too much cologne or perfumes sprayed is even worse. At least the vape "smoke" odor doesn't linger and get stuck in your clothes and hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted February 17, 2014 #42 Share Posted February 17, 2014 It took a while before studies came out that showed how dangerous smoking is (and I imagine part of that reason is due to tobacco companies blocking them). So I wouldn't be surprised if sometime in the future' date=' it will be shown that these e-cigarettes are also dangerous, both for the users and the people around them. There is not one single health benefit to smoking. For some people, a glass of wine a day may actually be beneficial. But for smokers who are claiming that e-cigarettes of any kind (including the vapor types) won't harm others have no way of knowing that for sure. And just want to justify, to themselves and others, their horrible addiction. Smokers are becoming a minority in this world due to attrition (death as a result of smoking), and due to some people who did realize they can kick the habit.[/quote'] Nicotine is a poison and used to be used as an insecticide until it was outlawed for such use. Glad I quit but it wasn't easy so I know what people are going through when they are trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donaldsc Posted June 2, 2014 #43 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I have recently started vaping instead of smoking cigarettes. There is no tar in the vapor and the only smell is from the fruity flavors of e-liquid I use. I am sailing on carnival in September and I am wondering if they consider vapor pens to be "e-cigarettes" in their smoking policy. (Vaping is allowed all places smoking is not where I'm from, as there is no second hand smoke or odor) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I personally have no problem with e-cigs although I would suggest that you do a non-fruity variety and I hate the smell of cigarettes. However, some people regard e-cigs with the same loathing as real cigarettes. Also, you need to check with Carnival as to their official policy. DON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted June 2, 2014 #44 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I have recently started vaping instead of smoking cigarettes. There is no tar in the vapor and the only smell is from the fruity flavors of e-liquid I use. I am sailing on carnival in September and I am wondering if they consider vapor pens to be "e-cigarettes" in their smoking policy. (Vaping is allowed all places smoking is not where I'm from, as there is no second hand smoke or odor) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Well, which is it? A) "...only SMELL from the fruity flavors...", or B) "...no second hand smoke or ODOR...". SMELL. = ODOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mytime2014 Posted June 2, 2014 #45 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Guess I'll be one of the rude ones & smoke my ecig/vaper pens where I want too instead of cigerettes. Dont care if people wanna say I'm selfish or rude but I'm dang well sick & tired of others who think they can ban public spots.Granted, I understand the ship isnt really public space as it is owned by a company.. but until I have a cruise employee telling me I cant then all others can go to you know where. The "smoke" from ecigs & the ilk does not smell like real cigerettes do, so far they havent been proven to cause the supposed same harm. So IMHO its not different from blowing fruit scented gum smell into the air. Besides I dont smoke ones that have any smell & very lil indicating smoke/vapour. The only way someone would know is if they see me put it to my lips. . 1st - I don't care if you smoke - I would if there was Xanax in it :cool: ....but for your comment hi-lited above - how many decades - maybe even centuries before anyone know beyond reasonable doubt that cigs caused the problems they do? especially 2nd hand smoke. Just saying - don't hang your whole basket on that hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mytime2014 Posted June 2, 2014 #46 Share Posted June 2, 2014 and who decides how much is too much? no cruise employee is going to have the jewels to tell grandma she has on too much perfume! no one in a church is going to tell granny she has on to to much perfume sorry there's the door. in a work environment they most definitely do say scent free. We were advised last month to "consider" using scent free products because of 2 asthmatic employees so that it was not a mandatory forever policy change. But I'm sure I already know who will think it does not apply to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindythompson Posted June 2, 2014 #47 Share Posted June 2, 2014 You could get away with it in your cabin. If you use them just be discrete about it. I actually used mine on a plane I just blew it down between my legs. Nobody could smell it because it dissipates so quickly. If you are careful nobody will care. I wouldn't go around blowing it peoples faces haha. Personally I find the smell of exhaust pretty bad and that is way worst than anything coming out of a vapor cig. Only difference is nobody is giving you dirty looks when your car is running by them. To each their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemsm Posted June 3, 2014 #48 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Here we go again: To the OP since I don't see if you got an answer to your original question: Vapor Pens are unfortunately categorized as e-cigarettes. The rules say you can't vape anywhere except where cigarette smoking is allowed however I vaped the entire week in my cabin and nobody noticed a thing. I also vaped in the casino at the smoking tables and I can tell you that everyone was extremely appreciative that I vaped instead of smoking real cigarettes. If you are discreet you can pretty much vape anywhere on the ship except the dining rooms/main theater if you so choose to break policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travel_nuts Posted June 4, 2014 #49 Share Posted June 4, 2014 If e-cigs don't have any of the same benefits as regular cigarettes then why do people use them? If it is just needing something stuck in your mouth that gives off some discolored air, try filling your mouth with a nice white talc powder and shoving your finger in, pull it out, and exhale. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted June 4, 2014 #50 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Here we go again: To the OP since I don't see if you got an answer to your original question: Vapor Pens are unfortunately categorized as e-cigarettes. The rules say you can't vape anywhere except where cigarette smoking is allowed however I vaped the entire week in my cabin and nobody noticed a thing. I also vaped in the casino at the smoking tables and I can tell you that everyone was extremely appreciative that I vaped instead of smoking real cigarettes. If you are discreet you can pretty much vape anywhere on the ship except the dining rooms/main theater if you so choose to break policy. Just what we need on a ship at sea: folks who have no regard for company and/or government regulations in a confined space (ship) at a location with limited egress (sea). There 's a bigger picture here. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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