rols Posted February 18, 2014 #51 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Then what was the issue with the individual in trainers but otherwise a nice suit who was relegated to near the kitchen? I should probably stop digging as I'm already the a-hole in this thread but I may as well flame out fully. It wasn't a nice suit, it was a jacket, a pair of slacks and trainers, and a shirt I described as eloquent, by which I meant loud. It possibly fulfilled the letter of the dress code, it did not fulfil the spirit of it, in my opinion. This couple were escorted to what are usually the last-populated tables in the restaurant, they are close to the kitchen, they have no view and they have a constant bustle of people going in and out. We've been placed there before, usually when showing up a bit late and asking for a table for 2 and that's the last one. The causal connection between their dress and the table is entirely in my mind, but it was pretty empty at the time and not a usual time to fill that rather unpopular table. I will now shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted February 18, 2014 #52 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I should probably stop digging as I'm already the a-hole in this thread but I may as well flame out fully. It wasn't a nice suit, it was a jacket, a pair of slacks and trainers, and a shirt I described as eloquent, by which I meant loud. It possibly fulfilled the letter of the dress code, it did not fulfil the spirit of it, in my opinion. This couple were escorted to what are usually the last-populated tables in the restaurant, they are close to the kitchen, they have no view and they have a constant bustle of people going in and out. We've been placed there before, usually when showing up a bit late and asking for a table for 2 and that's the last one. The causal connection between their dress and the table is entirely in my mind, but it was pretty empty at the time and not a usual time to fill that rather unpopular table. I will now shut up. There is always the possibility that Mr trainers wanted a table out of the way near to the kitchen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wripro Posted February 18, 2014 #53 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Wonder what kind of table one would get showing up formally dressed in a powder blue tuxedo with a ruffled shirt and a red velvet bow tie!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted February 18, 2014 #54 Share Posted February 18, 2014 (edited) Wonder what kind of table one would get showing up formally dressed in a powder blue tuxedo with a ruffled shirt and a red velvet bow tie!!! You would probably be given the Maitre d's desk and asked to allocate tables to guests. Failing that he would probably be shown to your table Henry where he could blend in.:D Edited February 18, 2014 by Mr Luxury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Norton Posted February 18, 2014 #55 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I should probably stop digging as I'm already the a-hole in this thread but I may as well flame out fully. It wasn't a nice suit, it was a jacket, a pair of slacks and trainers, and a shirt I described as eloquent, by which I meant loud. It possibly fulfilled the letter of the dress code, it did not fulfil the spirit of it, in my opinion. This couple were escorted to what are usually the last-populated tables in the restaurant, they are close to the kitchen, they have no view and they have a constant bustle of people going in and out. We've been placed there before, usually when showing up a bit late and asking for a table for 2 and that's the last one. The causal connection between their dress and the table is entirely in my mind, but it was pretty empty at the time and not a usual time to fill that rather unpopular table. I will now shut up. Ah, thank you. It's interesting to note how edge cases may be dealt with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenscroft Posted February 18, 2014 #56 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Perhaps Mr Trainers was an infamous 'heaten' :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenscroft Posted February 18, 2014 #57 Share Posted February 18, 2014 This couple were escorted to what are usually the last-populated tables in the restaurant, they are close to the kitchen, they have no view and they have a constant bustle of people going in and out. We've been placed there before, usually when showing up a bit late and asking for a table for 2 and that's the last one. We've been seated there a few times too. We prefer to dine late. In fact the 9pm deadline on Seabourn is a tad too early for us on holiday. So we arrive around 8.45pm, ask for a table for two and that's often the only one they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetocruz111 Posted February 18, 2014 #58 Share Posted February 18, 2014 To be honest I don't know what all the fuss is about being smart on a ship, surely it’s part of the ambience and whole idea of a luxury cruise? For those of you wanting more casual cruising there are plenty alternatives but please Seabourn don’t lover the standards any further! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Norton Posted February 18, 2014 #59 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Perhaps Mr Trainers was an infamous 'heaten' :D :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softsands Posted February 18, 2014 #60 Share Posted February 18, 2014 That raises the question of what is a bad table? ;) The one where my wife sits opposite me. Ow! Ouch! I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Well, most of the time I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted February 19, 2014 #61 Share Posted February 19, 2014 The one where my wife sits opposite me. Ow! Ouch! I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Well, most of the time I am. No you're not,you are serious.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppy1966 Posted February 19, 2014 #62 Share Posted February 19, 2014 http://www.cruisecritic.co.uk/memberreviews/memberreview.cfm?EntryID=248940 I don't think Margo1000 was too impressed with Cunards dress code!!!!:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenscroft Posted February 19, 2014 #63 Share Posted February 19, 2014 http://www.cruisecritic.co.uk/memberreviews/memberreview.cfm?EntryID=248940 I don't think Margo1000 was too impressed with Cunards dress code!!!!:eek: Blimey :D Thanks for posting this poppy, the part that's talking about dress code is quite the funniest review I've seen for a while. I hope nobody's offended by it but it's tickled me. Interesting writing. In many respects 'margo' sounds British, ( " a right mess", "tarts", "cover their bits") but in others sounds like someone from the US. I do like how honest they are about having a sense of entitlement! That's brightened my afternoon but again, sorry if anyone is offended by it, I didn't write it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenscroft Posted February 19, 2014 #64 Share Posted February 19, 2014 The Cunard board posters are generally not impressed with 'Margo'. :eek:Unfortunately my search function for CC is still not working so I can't see prior reviews or posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wripro Posted February 19, 2014 #65 Share Posted February 19, 2014 MrLuxury, Possibly the man in the powder blue tuxedo would blend in with me, especially because neither of our noses would be up in the air. lovetocruz111, And it's not the passengers who are lowering the dress code, it's Seabourn itself so those who think people should find other cruising options if they don't like to dress more formally, it's you who need to find other options because the dress codes will only continue to evolve into less formality. And don't think it's Crystal where on formal optional nights you are now welcome in a jacket without tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Norton Posted February 19, 2014 #66 Share Posted February 19, 2014 MrLuxury, Possibly the man in the powder blue tuxedo would blend in with me, especially because neither of our noses would be up in the air. lovetocruz111, And it's not the passengers who are lowering the dress code, it's Seabourn itself so those who think people should find other cruising options if they don't like to dress more formally, it's you who need to find other options because the dress codes will only continue to evolve into less formality. And don't think it's Crystal where on formal optional nights you are now welcome in a jacket without tie. Sadly (or not;)) this is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincslady Posted February 20, 2014 #67 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I am pretty sure that Margo must be a Brit - maybe named after the character in the Good Life? It is funny - presumably does not refer to the other guests in Queens Grill suites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Norton Posted February 20, 2014 #68 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) I am pretty sure that Margo must be a Brit - maybe named after the character in the Good Life? It is funny - presumably does not refer to the other guests in Queens Grill suites? I found it amusing. So the reviewer spent $10,000k (the money seemed very important to her - Id like to see her view of a near $300k Regent world cruise with their slob to resort casual dress code) to be in the 1st class section of a massive three class ship and were shocked to see that not everyone dressed up or that some of the younger passengers wore clothing that works well on the young. Edited February 20, 2014 by baychilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick160158 Posted February 26, 2014 #69 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Anything can be overcome if you put your mind to it,I never have a problem taking everything that a gentleman will require on his travels. Another issue is that when people sail on a first class luxury line they do not always look for a first class way to get to the ship. I have never understood why people sail luxury but fly economy,ok if you are sailing with carnival or costa or the like but surely not Seabourn or Silversea. I tend to differ. Wearing suits and ties, is the norm at work. I'm on vacation, and for the price being paid here, I'd like to dress resort casual. My suits stay home. If the need to do a fashion show to impress fellow cruisers is on your list, feel free. Others don't feel the need to show how Heavy our Wallets are. We're quite self confident and secure in how we dress, it's the ones who aren't, that find the need to demonstrate wealth in public, especially if your on vacation. Who needs it, and Honestly , Who Cares. Dress respectfully, that's all that matters. It's not a suit and tie or Tux that defines a person.....Think about it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markham Posted February 26, 2014 #70 Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) My own view is that if you feel good dressing in formal attire on Seabourn "formal optional" nights then do so. The captain does so and the ships' main restaurants are elegant. If you do not like this tradition enough to do something else dress-wise then stick to your preference. There are enough like-minded more casual dressers to find your group is no longer a small minority. As my mother-in-law used to say about peoples' behaviors, "it's how you were brought up". Each to his own. Happy sailing! Edited February 26, 2014 by markham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pater15 Posted February 26, 2014 #71 Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) We are from the southern US and my my family always dresses for formal night, kids and their families included. Furthermore, if we eat in the MDR we are in a jacket and tie, except for the last night. We have been cruising on SB for 15 years and I have never had trouble packing for a trip and meeting the weight limits on airlines. We never travel under 10 days and have been gone as long as 22. Would love to go longer, but we both still work. There are so many dining options, even more on the big ships, you do not have to participate. I understand the world is becoming less formal. If your wife can take the time to dress in evening wear, do you really want to walk next to her in a worn out blazer, or less.... Edited February 26, 2014 by pater15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wripro Posted February 26, 2014 #72 Share Posted February 26, 2014 How do you know my blazer is worn out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted February 26, 2014 #73 Share Posted February 26, 2014 How do you know my blazer is worn out? I've seen the holes in the elbows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted February 26, 2014 #74 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I tend to differ. Wearing suits and ties, is the norm at work. I'm on vacation, and for the price being paid here, I'd like to dress resort casual. My suits stay home. If the need to do a fashion show to impress fellow cruisers is on your list, feel free. Others don't feel the need to show how Heavy our Wallets are. We're quite self confident and secure in how we dress, it's the ones who aren't, that find the need to demonstrate wealth in public, especially if your on vacation. Who needs it, and Honestly , Who Cares. Dress respectfully, that's all that matters. It's not a suit and tie or Tux that defines a person.....Think about it.... I like to dress to my own dress code and you to yours. On Seabourn there is room for both of us. Who cares what you wear or how you look:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Norton Posted February 26, 2014 #75 Share Posted February 26, 2014 I tend to differ. Wearing suits and ties, is the norm at work. I'm on vacation, and for the price being paid here, I'd like to dress resort casual. My suits stay home. If the need to do a fashion show to impress fellow cruisers is on your list, feel free. Others don't feel the need to show how Heavy our Wallets are. We're quite self confident and secure in how we dress, it's the ones who aren't, that find the need to demonstrate wealth in public, especially if your on vacation. Who needs it, and Honestly , Who Cares. Dress respectfully, that's all that matters. It's not a suit and tie or Tux that defines a person.....Think about it.... I'd argue that the line "I paid X for Y, ergo I should be able to do Z" can be disrespectful (especially since it seems to be used to justify prohibited or boorish behavior or by one attempting to ignore the stated dress code). So long as you follow the dress code, who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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