Cagneys breakfast price ??

[SeaShark]

Not for anything, but it sure is interesting how many different answers there are for one question...and people here rag on the phone reps for their different answers :rolleyes:.

 

 

This really isn't that big of an issue. Just because a guest is in a suite doesn't mean that they HAVE to eat their breakfast in Cagney's. If the real goal here is simply to be able to eat together, then why not just have the suite people join you in the buffet or in the MDR for breakfast? Problem solved.

[hpecorari]

If the real goal here is simply to be able to eat together, then why not just have the suite people join you in the buffet or in the MDR for breakfast? Problem solved.

 

Because 'some' feel since they are entitled to it they want to use it, not thinking about those that aren't entitled to it shouldn't get it.

 

Because 'some' feel they are 'downgraded' going to the MDR or buffet.

 

They don't want to give up what they have (thinking it's a downgrade and eat at the MDR/Buffet)but want their family/friends/etc. to get what they don't have and get an upgrade to eat with them.

 

Some just don't know and are simply asking.

 

Some don't care about rules and what's right and wrong.

 

Some also don't realize that if everyone in a suite invited someone who's not in a suite that their just might not be enough room for everyone to sit and eat.....or that there would be lines and long waits.....for those who are actually entitled.

 

That's what I think

 

Harriet

[SeaShark]

Because 'some' feel since they are entitled to it they want to use it, not thinking about those that aren't entitled to it shouldn't get it.

 

Because 'some' feel they are 'downgraded' going to the MDR or buffet.

 

They don't want to give up what they have (thinking it's a downgrade and eat at the MDR/Buffet)but want their family/friends/etc. to get what they don't have and get an upgrade to eat with them.

 

Some just don't know and are simply asking.

 

Some don't care about rules and what's right and wrong.

 

Some also don't realize that if everyone in a suite invited someone who's not in a suite that their just might not be enough room for everyone to sit and eat.....or that there would be lines and long waits.....for those who are actually entitled.

 

That's what I think

 

Harriet

 

Oh, I see . . .

 

 

In other words, you don't think that the real goal is to be able to eat together. You think the real goal might actually be something else entirely.

 

 

 

Methinks you are on to something....;)

[hpecorari]

Oh, I see . . .

 

 

In other words, you don't think that the real goal is to be able to eat together. You think the real goal might actually be something else entirely.

 

 

 

Methinks you are on to something....;)

 

No, the real goal IS to eat together.

 

The reason everyone on these boards ask if their family/friends/etc. can eat with them in Cagney's instead of them even thinking of eating with their family/friends in the MDR/buffet are the reasons I posted.

 

However......sometimes it's nice to be away from family/friends for a nice quiet meal! LOL

 

 

Harriet

Edited March 7, 2014 by hpecorari

[DMH15]

Are you suggesting that if the concierge says "sorry, no" that the OP go over his head to ask for something that they're not entitled to? How tacky is that.:eek:

I did not read it that way. I imagined perhaps they had an opportunity to converse with the Hotel Director or such. I did not see it as a way to usurp anyone's authority.

 

BTW, in the past I have read of some who have hosted CC meet and greets being granted VIP status. Don't have any personal experience with that since the two times I hosted I was in a suite already with the perk.

 

 

 

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[SeaShark]

No, the real goal IS to eat together.

 

 

 

Agreed. Which is why I simply suggested that the real goal could be easily met by selecting a restaurant that appears on EVERYONE's "permitted" list.

 

 

Those who actually have another goal in mind will seek other "solutions".

[lanceholt]

Thanks for using the word "tacky" as that exactly describes some of these suggestions and behavior. If you want to eat together there are several breakfast and lunch options. As for bumping it up above the concierge, good grief.... Asking to get VIP status on a cruise is not the way to get VIP status. What many are talking about here is weaseling your way in. As for the butlers being happy to be busier, give me a break. That is the most condescending thing I have heard today. Pay your way and take what you have paid for, be happy with it.

[EileenN]

Like hell, we paid for a suite and we are entitled to Cagneys for breakfast and lunch.

Want it, pay for it like most of us...

[em-sk]

Honestly, Look at some of the photos of the suites. Those are sized to be able to entertain. I would expect that short of violating some maximum occupancy regulation you should be able to invite as many people as you like into your cabin as frequently as you like. If the suite comes with a butler to setup meals or other room service items so be it.

 

How is this different that being in a regular balcony ordering wine from room service with glasses for you and your guests and having your cabin steward clean up after your guest leave.

 

In the suite your paying for access to a butler that does a nicer spread and is a bit more attentive than just normal room service. I believe that also includes preparing your cabin for entertaining does it not?

 

As for going to the VIP or Suit restaurant for breakfast, it is more like showing up for a party your not invited to. Perhaps the host will be nice enough to let you in once or twice but you are pushing your luck to do it over and over again.

[kdzkatz]

Ask your concierge. If they can accommodate they will do their best to do so. If they can't for whatever reason then thank them and enjoy your vacation regardless.

[AjBren2]

Honestly, Look at some of the photos of the suites. Those are sized to be able to entertain. I would expect that short of violating some maximum occupancy regulation you should be able to invite as many people as you like into your cabin as frequently as you like. If the suite comes with a butler to setup meals or other room service items so be it.

 

How is this different that being in a regular balcony ordering wine from room service with glasses for you and your guests and having your cabin steward clean up after your guest leave.

 

In the suite your paying for access to a butler that does a nicer spread and is a bit more attentive than just normal room service. I believe that also includes preparing your cabin for entertaining does it not?

 

As for going to the VIP or Suit restaurant for breakfast, it is more like showing up for a party your not invited to. Perhaps the host will be nice enough to let you in once or twice but you are pushing your luck to do it over and over again.

 

 

It is different than ordering a bottle of wine, in the fact that you do not pay for a bottle of wine on a per person basis. My wife and I each paid extra in our fare to be allowed the perks in the suite. A bottle of wine is a flat fee because it is a one time shot. If you want a comparison, like I said earlier, have one in a group order the unlimited beverage package, and have them furnish drinks for the entire group...see how NCL likes that. Or have one person partake in the Ultimate Dining package then show up with an entourage.

 

Another issue I have is saying, "the butler enjoys doing it". The butler is a person like all of the rest of us. He is working a job. How well do you think he would be tipped if he turned in every bend of the rules he sees. He is going to be as polite and accommodating as possible so he can cash in and maximize his tip. People here saying, just give him an extra big tip are saying, "pay him for his silence". You don't think they go back to their quarters with their colleagues and say," wow, some people have nerve asking for the things they do."?

 

Setting up a party is is different. When you host a party, I would assume that the butler would provide hors d'evours that anybody could access from different venues on the ship, such as the buffet or snack bar or even MDR appetizers, and would be happy to do so. But when you cross that line to providing a meal to someone who did not pay for that level of service, it is wrong to do and wrong to ask the butler to do for you.

[kmc86]

Traveled on breakaway in haven suite accompanied by non suite family members. Was allowed to invite them for dinner in haven restaurant " anfew times" for fee of $20 or 25 per person. Otherwise we met them after breakfast and dined in mdr or specialty rest the rest of time.not a problem..

[beards34]

If you are not entitled to the perk you are not entitled . I am pAying. Lot of money foe the dos and if I want Cagneys I prefer not to wait because everyone else is brining in extra people. As for ordering in the room that seems like stealing to me. We have friends in a inside cabin and I will not be providing them with Cagneys nor do the expect it

 

 

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[russianmom]

It's not that complicated.... Do you go to a concert and ask the usher if you can sit in the front row? Do you get on the plane and ask the pilot if you can sit in first class? Do you go to a sports event and ask to be let into the owners suite?

 

People pay a premium to be in a suite and putting the butler or concierge on the spot to make accommodations for those not in a suite isn't right.

 

If you want suite perks stay in a suite. When I travel with friends who don't stay in a suite I don't either or we meet up separately (not during priority embarkation or at Cagneys etc)

[sverigecruiser]

Are you suggesting that if the concierge says "sorry, no" that the OP go over his head to ask for something that they're not entitled to? How tacky is that.:eek:

 

I think that only those who pay for the perk shall get it but I don't think that it's goint over someones head to ask someone "higher" if the concierge says no. The concierge get their order from someone and if someone "higher" say that it's okey, it's okey.

[lanceholt]

Check out your room service menu in the suite. There is a section to order larger trays to feed your guests in the suite, and they each have a charge. SO if you want to entertain guests, then pay for the extra food via room service. Set up to entertain indeed...it is truly amazing how these weasels can accommodate their unpaid desires via rationalizing what they want vs what they are willing or can afford to pay for.

 

Don't try to get it if you can't afford to pay for it. Guess it doesn't bother these people, as they have no class. Harsh words I know, but this is really offending me. Reminds me of the people in the buffet who pile more food than one human can eat on their plate, all in a messy jumble, because "I paid for it." Takes all kinds.

 

Sure would like to know how much these types actually tip the butlers in dollars.

[DMH15]

When our friends had us, (non suite at the time), for lunch, it was not Cagney's fare, it was a tray of sandwiches, a veggie tray, a fruit tray and cookies.

 

I have never had non suite guests in for Cagneys, but rather pre-arranged for snacks through the butler. This is acceptable. I remember telling HD Brian Walters while having dinner with him about the lovely job our butler Teresa had done for our guests. He was pleased that we had done so.

 

Don't worry. Teresa was tipped well, as was our steward. I am probably an over-tipper but That is my choice.

 

Besides, I make new friends on board and we have the room to have them up. We do not limit ourselves to only suite guests. Now that would be tacky.

 

 

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[lanceholt]

We fly business or first class which gives us access to the airline lounges. If we have friends in coach, no way does the airline allow them into the lounge. I can understand about the crudites, cookies, little sandwiches, but if/when suite guests have a party for 20 people, then they should pay for it. OF COURSE, the HD said that was nice, that is what they are trained to say in a public place, you have no idea what is the attitude behind it or how it may change policy going forward. Sometimes a few greedy people ruin things for everyone.

[mpk218]

We fly business or first class which gives us access to the airline lounges. If we have friends in coach, no way does the airline allow them into the lounge. I can understand about the crudites, cookies, little sandwiches, but if/when suite guests have a party for 20 people, then they should pay for it. OF COURSE, the HD said that was nice, that is what they are trained to say in a public place, you have no idea what is the attitude behind it or how it may change policy going forward. Sometimes a few greedy people ruin things for everyone.

 

I agree with you in principle . But I find your hard line a bit much ..

Life is to short to worry about what the other guy got . ;)

[pathubia]

I am kind of in the same boat, I booked a 2 bedroom family suite with a balcony and the adjoining mini suite. So we can go to cagneys but the kids can't. That isn't an issue. My only issue is checking in. I am hoping we can all check in together

 

 

 

 

 

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[funat55]

There are 18 family members going on the Getaway next month. 17 of us are in suites. We have one solo traveler that had no one else to room with so she is in one the new single rooms. There are no suites for single travelers unless you want to pay double for a regular suite. Who would do that?

 

I'm going to ask if she can join me in my suite for breakfast. I don't intend to sneak her into anyplace she is not allowed to go, but I will ask permission to give her a tour of the Haven. I just wish that in circumstances like these, they would offer the option of a surcharge to allowing a non-suite passenger access as long as they are accompanied by someone who is staying in a suite.

[hpecorari]

I just wish that in circumstances like these, they would offer the option of a surcharge to allowing a non-suite passenger access as long as they are accompanied by someone who is staying in a suite.

 

First, you should have no problem having her there for breakfast in your suite. Enjoy.

 

But let's turn this around a little. Say my husband and myself are staying in a suite. My daughter and her husband are not, and my two sons and their wives are not. They're not because they didn't have the money to or they're not because there were no suites available at the time they booked. No difference, really. So, that's 2 of us in a Suite but the rest of my family which equals 6 are not. You're saying that the 6 other family members of mine who are not staying in a suite should be permitted to eat at Cagney's for breakfast and lunch because they would be accompanied by me, who is staying in a suite? Even if there was a fee, imagine how crowded and busy it would be if all suite passengers had their non suite family/friends there simply because they were accompanied by the suite passenger.

 

Harriet

Edited March 8, 2014 by hpecorari

[swedish weave]

First, you should have no problem having her there for breakfast in your suite. Enjoy.

 

But let's turn this around a little. Say my husband and myself are staying in a suite. My daughter and her husband are not, and my two sons and their wives are not. They're not because they didn't have the money to or they're not because there were no suites available at the time they booked. No difference, really. So, that's 2 of us in a Suite but the rest of my family which equals 6 are not. You're saying that the 6 other family members of mine who are not staying in a suite should be permitted to eat at Cagney's for breakfast and lunch because they would be accompanied by me, who is staying in a suite? Even if there was a fee, imagine how crowded and busy it would be if all suite passengers had their non suite family/friends there simply because they were accompanied by the suite passenger.

 

Harriet

 

Let me twist this logic a little bit more !

 

Suppose one or two or three of these couples had the good fortune to be upgraded to a suite from a balcony or below cabin at no extra cost.

 

Certainly they would be entitled to eat at Cagneys, but doesn't this disrupt the logic posted by some that they paid for this priviledge and others didn't so they shouldn't be allowed ??

 

I say if there is enough food for you, what the he!! difference does it make ??

Edited March 8, 2014 by swedish weave

[em-sk]

We fly business or first class which gives us access to the airline lounges. If we have friends in coach, no way does the airline allow them into the lounge. I can understand about the crudites, cookies, little sandwiches, but if/when suite guests have a party for 20 people, then they should pay for it. OF COURSE, the HD said that was nice, that is what they are trained to say in a public place, you have no idea what is the attitude behind it or how it may change policy going forward. Sometimes a few greedy people ruin things for everyone.

 

That all depends on the airline and your status with the airline.

 

I travel mostly with Air Canada. With Elite status I am permitted to bring two guests into the lounge regardless of the cabin they are in with me (as long as they have a boarding pass with any Star Alliance carrier departing on the same day). If I am in executive class without the status I am permitted to invite guests into the business lounge with me but must pay a fee of around $20-30. I suspect most other airlines have similar arrangements.

 

Honestly if you have a Haven suite you should be permitted to invite guests up to your cabin. If the arrangement you have includes certain privileges extended to your guests so be it. If NCL has a charge for special services for your guests that sounds reasonable, as a good host you should expect to pay for costs of entertaining your guests.

[Beaver1975]

Honestly if you have a Haven suite you should be permitted to invite guests up to your cabin. If the arrangement you have includes certain privileges extended to your guests so be it. If NCL has a charge for special services for your guests that sounds reasonable, as a good host you should expect to pay for costs of entertaining your guests.

 

There is nothing to keep you from inviting guest to your Haven cabin. You just have to meet them at a lower floor and escort them to your cabin. The rub is using other perks and spaces granted to suite passengers, such as dinging rooms and the Haven space itself.