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MISSGJ

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Just disembarked and overall I was underwhelmed. It took two hours to get onboard. Service was horrible. Rooms looked great but soundproofing was a joke. We could hear every word the people were saying in the next cabin. Howl at the Moon in headliners was excellent with a decent albeit slow bar service. Drinks themselves were very good (cocktails etc) but so expensive with added gratuity, VAT and Duty tax. This was my first taste of NCL and unfortunately it's not for us. I guess that's the beauty of a one night taster cruise.

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Just disembarked and overall I was underwhelmed. It took two hours to get onboard. Service was horrible. Rooms looked great but soundproofing was a joke. We could hear every word the people were saying in the next cabin. Howl at the Moon in headliners was excellent with a decent albeit slow bar service. Drinks themselves were very good (cocktails etc) but so expensive with added gratuity, VAT and Duty tax. This was my first taste of NCL and unfortunately it's not for us. I guess that's the beauty of a one night taster cruise.

 

 

Sorry to hear this, but at least you tried it.

I do have to say ship is very new and even the crew are still getting acclimated so maybe that is why service was bad

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Just got off the one nighter and found it to be similar to the breakaway but a few more added extras.we stayed in a mini suite with access to the spa.The only difference I would say is the bathrooms bigger in the room.i would only upgrade if I knew I would be spending time in the spa.The rooms not worth upgrading for in my opinion.I do like NCL though and would sail on it from Miami around the Caribbean.We were room 15174.You could hear the sun loungers moving about this morning so be aware of booking that floor(room) also we had a coffee maker but no coffee only tea and coffee creamer!!!and one cup so probably have to ask for another cup and coffee unless it's only tea.Anything anyone wants to know feel free to ask! Enjoyed margaritaville and 5 o'clock somewhere bar.The new district brew house was nice we enjoyed that.Think the bake shop was set up for uk customers as it didn't have all the merchandise and cakes it has when sailing from the USA.think the stock will change when it leaves Miami.Wanted a margaritiville mug but no merchandise either for that only the plastic upgrade $6 cup when purchasing a drink

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MISSGJ

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It wasn't just the service was bad, I would say all but a couple of crew I came in contact with were really unfriendly and acted like they just didn't want to be there. It was so strange. I've never experienced crew like it.

 

Yes we got woken up by the cancelled call. Well I say woken up, we were just dozing anyway due to the lack of soundproofing.

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It wasn't just the service was bad, I would say all but a couple of crew I came in contact with were really unfriendly and acted like they just didn't want to be there. It was so strange. I've never experienced crew like it.

 

Yes we got woken up by the cancelled call. Well I say woken up, we were just dozing anyway due to the lack of soundproofing.

 

Were you in a connecting room?

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MISSGJ

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We weren't in a connecting room. Neither were our friends who were a deck above us and forward (we were aft) and they said the same thing. I'm not a particularly light sleeper but I hardly slept at all last night. I understand a lot of people were partying and perhaps a little wilder/louder than normal but I could even hear just a regular volume conversation.

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Let's just hope it works...and there are no "unforeseen circumstances" that are mentioned in the article! :rolleyes:

 

 

Seems like would be easier much cheaper just to say no smoking at all and be done with it.

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Not really. Just frame the area out with non structural walls and vent with a fan to exterior via filter. Yes it should have been done earlier but a good crew could get it done in a day or two.

 

It will be a little more complicated than that.

 

They'll need to connect to a dedicated exhaust duct which would exhaust to the outside. If one is not near by, they will have to do whatever is necessary to connect to the closest one or run a new duct and exhaust system. Reason being is that they shouldn't tie beck into the return air ducts. That would just recirculated the smoke filled air. Also correct size of the ducts will impact the available space above the ceilings. I'm sure they are packed with all sorts of mechanicals and wiring.

 

Since a new room is being constructed, they will also have to add thermostats to that room as well. Pending how the air is currently supplied (system type: VAV box etc.), and what type of system, they will have add another unit or two up in the ceiling for that new zone/room.

 

Anytime you have to go back in and make an infrastructure change, it is never that easy. More than likely NCL has had this on their radar so I'm sure they already have a plan in play, but it will be more than a "couple of days" worth of work.

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It will be a little more complicated than that.

 

 

 

They'll need to connect to a dedicated exhaust duct which would exhaust to the outside. If one is not near by, they will have to do whatever is necessary to connect to the closest one or run a new duct and exhaust system. Reason being is that they shouldn't tie beck into the return air ducts. That would just recirculated the smoke filled air. Also correct size of the ducts will impact the available space above the ceilings. I'm sure they are packed with all sorts of mechanicals and wiring.

 

 

 

Since a new room is being constructed, they will also have to add thermostats to that room as well. Pending how the air is currently supplied (system type: VAV box etc.), and what type of system, they will have add another unit or two up in the ceiling for that new zone/room.

 

 

 

Anytime you have to go back in and make an infrastructure change, it is never that easy. More than likely NCL has had this on their radar so I'm sure they already have a plan in play, but it will be more than a "couple of days" worth of work.

 

 

It's quite common to build in additional rooms onboard cruise ships, and there are various contractors who specialize in doing just that.

 

Breakaway/Getaway and Quantum had additional crew cabins added after it was determined that service crew were short staffed.

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There are many high rollers who enjoy smoking. Their potential loses will more that pay for the simple enclosure and ventilation.

 

I agree with you. I remember watching this older lady (late 60ish) sitting at (2) $25 slot machines, with a max of 5 credits ($125) per spin, playing both of them at the same time for hours on end; drinking and smoking away. She was accompanied by a casino staff member who watched her play and if she needed a drink, one arrive immediately. And for the record, she was on those two machines almost everyday on a 7 day cruise. She was a hardcore gambler.

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I agree with you. I remember watching this older lady (late 60ish) sitting at (2) $25 slot machines, with a max of 5 credits ($125) per spin, playing both of them at the same time for hours on end; drinking and smoking away. She was accompanied by a casino staff member who watched her play and if she needed a drink, one arrive immediately. And for the record, she was on those two machines almost everyday on a 7 day cruise. She was a hardcore gambler.

 

Working on her neon tan :)

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There are many high rollers who enjoy smoking. Their potential loses will more that pay for the simple enclosure and ventilation.

 

That just doesn't apply. Firstly, "high rollers" are not more privileged than "normal folks", so they have to follow the same rules of courtesy, health, fire regs, etc. This is happening everywhere. That's just life. Moreover, history shows that while there may be a small drop-off in business at bars and restaurants very briefly at first (the same applies to casinos), smoking bans have absolutely no effect on business in the long run. That pendulum swings back naturally.

In a casino, high-rollers are gamblers first and smokers second. They will keep coming.

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happy cruzin

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There are many high rollers who enjoy smoking. Their potential loses will more that pay for the simple enclosure and ventilation.

 

Exactly - a full out ban would alienate too many people!

 

I do find it interesting that they are making an effort to deal with the complaints - which is great. But, they have left the door wide open to go back to the way it was with the "unforeseen consequences" statement.

 

Of course that "unforeseen" issue could be reduced casino revenues! :rolleyes:

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That just doesn't apply. Firstly, "high rollers" are not more privileged than "normal folks", so they have to follow the same rules of courtesy, health, fire regs, etc. That's just life. Moreover, history shows that while there may be a small drop-off in business at bars and restaurants very briefly at first (the same applies to casinos), smoking bans have absolutely no effect on business in the long run. That pendulum swings back naturally.

In a casino, high-rollers are gamblers first and smokers second. They will keep coming.

 

 

So many things wrong here.

 

First, high rollers are more privileged in the sense that their play is more highly valued by the casino and, by extension, the cruise line. They receive free cruises and many perks to entice them to sit and play while onboard.

 

Second, regulations have nothing to do with it. None of the IMO conventions, let alone the Bahamian enforcement, ban onboard smoking outright. Fire? Other than ensuring the new enclosure doesn't cross any fire zone boundaries and has adequate fire prevention coverage, there's not much to address.

 

Third, high rollers are not regular joes, and there are many examples from the past of high rollers who will leave if they can't be comfortably accommodated. A single high roller can represent millions of dollars to a cruise line. The fact that casinos will bend over backwards to please them should give you some indication of just how particular and demanding they can be. There are many who just won't come if they can't smoke because there are other lines that do allow it and are just as desperate to get their play.

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There are many high rollers who enjoy smoking. Their potential loses will more that pay for the simple enclosure and ventilation.

Agree; if a high roller has to step away from a hot table or game to puff a smoke - it will get nasty over there! Cruises/Casinos, can't & won't alienated all customers, especially when those customers are willing to drop money like it's water or use $20 like it's toilet paper, vice or no vice....

 

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