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"Cruise Critic members first brought the no smoking issue onboard Norwegian Escape to light on the forums."

 

What a terrible pun!

 

They could have redeemed themselves by adding that this caused a heated debate, which caused the thread to go up in smoke :p

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It will be a little more complicated than that.

 

They'll need to connect to a dedicated exhaust duct which would exhaust to the outside. If one is not near by, they will have to do whatever is necessary to connect to the closest one or run a new duct and exhaust system. Reason being is that they shouldn't tie beck into the return air ducts. That would just recirculated the smoke filled air. Also correct size of the ducts will impact the available space above the ceilings. I'm sure they are packed with all sorts of mechanicals and wiring.

 

Since a new room is being constructed, they will also have to add thermostats to that room as well. Pending how the air is currently supplied (system type: VAV box etc.), and what type of system, they will have add another unit or two up in the ceiling for that new zone/room.

 

Anytime you have to go back in and make an infrastructure change, it is never that easy. More than likely NCL has had this on their radar so I'm sure they already have a plan in play, but it will be more than a "couple of days" worth of work.

 

For the ones are/were on board, any guess where this room may be located? i have not seeing many pics of the casino, but i've been 3 times on the Breakaway and i am very familiar with the space, we are non smoking casino players (no high rollers LOL LOL), we do not mind if is smoking or not, but of course prefer a non smoking one. I know the Escape is bigger but pretty much the space is the same just without the Shanghai Noodles restaurant and with the open Skybar area. I will find out in 3 weeks when we sail and will try to take some pics, it should be done by then.

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Another smoking question:

 

My German Freestyle Daily says (of course translated):

 

"Smoking: Smoking ist only allowed in designated areas of the outside decks. In the casino, in the cigar bar and on your cabin balcony (cigarettes only) smoking is allowed."

 

As NCL banned smoking on balconies by Dec 1st 2014 and now on the Escape also in the casino I assume this is wrong the the person got the wrong text for this.

 

Can anyone who has an English Freestyle Daily get me the English version please?

 

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First Impressions:

This ship looks amazing and very nice. The Haven area seems to be the most improved over BA/GA. I love the way the Haven pool area lights up at night. The Haven restaurant is expanded and not as cramped on BA/GA. But FINALLY adding a water feature (hot tub) on the Haven sundeck is the cherry on top.

With all these new restaurants the possibility of lots of upcharges exist. Plan accordingly and discipline yourself :eek:

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Well we have concluded another beautiful night in London and am looking forward to joining the Escape tomorrow. We have no expectations. We realize that everyone and everything is new so we have 10 nights of pure escape to discover the wonders of all the people who make this ship run. See you all in Southhampton...

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Just got off the one nighter and found it to be similar to the breakaway but a few more added extras.we stayed in a mini suite with access to the spa.The only difference I would say is the bathrooms bigger in the room.i would only upgrade if I knew I would be spending time in the spa.The rooms not worth upgrading for in my opinion.I do like NCL though and would sail on it from Miami around the Caribbean.We were room 15174.You could hear the sun loungers moving about this morning so be aware of booking that floor(room) also we had a coffee maker but no coffee only tea and coffee creamer!!!and one cup so probably have to ask for another cup and coffee unless it's only tea.Anything anyone wants to know feel free to ask! Enjoyed margaritaville and 5 o'clock somewhere bar.The new district brew house was nice we enjoyed that.Think the bake shop was set up for uk customers as it didn't have all the merchandise and cakes it has when sailing from the USA.think the stock will change when it leaves Miami.Wanted a margaritiville mug but no merchandise either for that only the plastic upgrade $6 cup when purchasing a drink

 

We have this cabin booked for February, well 4 cabins down, my question for you is how early do you hear the noise from the loungers? I have been worried about this for months, but we actually get up pretty early.

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We have this cabin booked for February, well 4 cabins down, my question for you is how early do you hear the noise from the loungers? I have been worried about this for months, but we actually get up pretty early.

 

 

That probably won't be known until there is warmer weather.

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So many things wrong here.

 

First, high rollers are more privileged in the sense that their play is more highly valued by the casino and, by extension, the cruise line. They receive free cruises and many perks to entice them to sit and play while onboard.

 

Second, regulations have nothing to do with it. None of the IMO conventions, let alone the Bahamian enforcement, ban onboard smoking outright. Fire? Other than ensuring the new enclosure doesn't cross any fire zone boundaries and has adequate fire prevention coverage, there's not much to address.

 

Third, high rollers are not regular joes, and there are many examples from the past of high rollers who will leave if they can't be comfortably accommodated. A single high roller can represent millions of dollars to a cruise line. The fact that casinos will bend over backwards to please them should give you some indication of just how particular and demanding they can be. There are many who just won't come if they can't smoke because there are other lines that do allow it and are just as desperate to get their play.

 

"High Rollers" are not more privileged that others, they just think they are and for every "high roller" smoker you can name I can name 10 that don't smoke.

 

I wonder how these "high-roller" smokers would like it if the non-smokers released pungent flatulence right under their noses? My guess is these "special" and "privileged" "high rollers" would smell it just like any "regular Joe".

 

This is my first cruise on a NCL ship and we are saying in the Haven, so some might consider me a "high roller". Additionally, my wife and I both like to "high roll" at casinos from time to time but if the Escape's casino is so filled with filthy smoke then it will be my last cruise on NCL. We will go back to Celebrity where the casinos are smoke free and crowded.

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"High Rollers" are not more privileged that others, they just think they are and for every "high roller" smoker you can name I can name 10 that don't smoke.

 

Agreed!

 

Except I don't agree with the part about thinking they are more privileged! Just more don't smoke:-)

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"High Rollers" are not more privileged that others, they just think they are and for every "high roller" smoker you can name I can name 10 that don't smoke.

 

I wonder how these "high-roller" smokers would like it if the non-smokers released pungent flatulence right under their noses? My guess is these "special" and "privileged" "high rollers" would smell it just like any "regular Joe".

 

This is my first cruise on a NCL ship and we are saying in the Haven, so some might consider me a "high roller". Additionally, my wife and I both like to "high roll" at casinos from time to time but if the Escape's casino is so filled with filthy smoke then it will be my last cruise on NCL. We will go back to Celebrity where the casinos are smoke free and crowded.

 

The anti cigarette people make me smile lol. I wish the US government would just outlaw smoking, they put so many regulations on it they might as well. It is the most highly regulated thing that is still legal in the United States lol.

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The anti cigarette people make me smile lol. I wish the US government would just outlaw smoking, they put so many regulations on it they might as well. It is the most highly regulated thing that is still legal in the United States lol.

 

 

As I have seen motleyfan, disrespect the whole "non smoking" comments throughout the last week, he should take into consideration that some people suffer from breathing issues like myself. It's good to see that there are designated smoking areas, so myself will avoid these areas. Don't disrespect non smokers!

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As I have seen motleyfan, disrespect the whole "non smoking" comments throughout the last week, he should take into consideration that some people suffer from breathing issues like myself. It's good to see that there are designated smoking areas, so myself will avoid these areas. Don't disrespect non smokers!

 

Disrespect? I'm just stating my opinion, since when did somebody's opinion become offensive? The country is too politically correct lol. Anytime somebody has an opinion is contrary to someone else's it is labeled offensive it would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

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"High Rollers" are not more privileged that others, they just think they are and for every "high roller" smoker you can name I can name 10 that don't smoke.

 

I wonder how these "high-roller" smokers would like it if the non-smokers released pungent flatulence right under their noses? My guess is these "special" and "privileged" "high rollers" would smell it just like any "regular Joe".

 

This is my first cruise on a NCL ship and we are saying in the Haven, so some might consider me a "high roller". Additionally, my wife and I both like to "high roll" at casinos from time to time but if the Escape's casino is so filled with filthy smoke then it will be my last cruise on NCL. We will go back to Celebrity where the casinos are smoke free and crowded.

 

You're not a high roller for saying in the Haven. The perks at the top of NCL's Casinos at Sea program easily exceed the perks one would receive for staying in a suite, although these same folks will usually get comped Haven suites anyway.

 

Celebrity's Blue Chip casino program doesn't even come close. They'd kill to have the kind of high rollers NCL has.

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"High Rollers" are not more privileged that others, they just think they are and for every "high roller" smoker you can name I can name 10 that don't smoke.

 

Agreed!

 

Except I don't agree with the part about thinking they are more privileged! Just more don't smoke:-)

 

To be clear, when I say "privileged," I mean it in the sense that they are quantitatively more valuable to a cruise line. A good player can easily lose many times the cost of the most expensive suites onboard, and to that end they are extended a wide range of perks to keep them coming back for more.

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