NauticalMiss Posted July 24, 2014 #26 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Well the British Raj is alive and kicking; and hovering around this thread. What a contentious issue! Interestingly, I have never felt like I am being 'sold' beverages on a ship. Perhaps it's because (generally) my glass is rarely empty when on holiday; not always alcohol, might I add :rolleyes: ........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AchileLauro Posted July 24, 2014 #27 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) You can compare your restaurant in town to dining in the MDR on a ship, of course water will be brought to you as part of the meal service. However daytime on pool deck, P&O places these crew members on deck to SELL you drinks not offer a free water fetching service. Purely as an aside - Actually its a requirement normally imposed by most local authority licensing departments under the licensing act of 2003 that water is available free of charge in all licensed premises selling alcohol. Not that the act applies outside of England & Wales. Edited July 24, 2014 by AchileLauro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted July 24, 2014 #28 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Well the British Raj is alive and kicking; and hovering around this thread. What a contentious issue! Interestingly, I have never felt like I am being 'sold' beverages on a ship. Perhaps it's because (generally) my glass is rarely empty when on holiday; not always alcohol, might I add :rolleyes: ........... Like it :D Maybe a fading echo of the Raj where everyone knew their place ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the english lady Posted July 24, 2014 #29 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Well the British Raj is alive and kicking; and hovering around this thread. What a contentious issue! Interestingly, I have never felt like I am being 'sold' beverages on a ship. Perhaps it's because (generally) my glass is rarely empty when on holiday; not always alcohol, might I add :rolleyes: ........... Well I was thinking that. Do these people never get off their sun bed for anything. You will never feel you are being "sold" drinks as they do it so very well. I guess I had never thought about it before as it is not something I would ever do..We have sometimes purchased drinks , but as we don't as a rule lay out there for very long-it does not happen very often. little lumps turning into big lumps. As regards the comment from someone comparing it with somewhere on land..the waiter then will be bringing food/drinks (of all types) to the table. Bringing some water is neither here nor there. I did wonder if ai comes in ,where would those guys get their commission from then...I guess from a cut of what is paid for the ai package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasthagotnowtmoist Posted July 24, 2014 #30 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I wouldnt really feel comfertable only asking for a tap water off a waiter in all honesty. If id gone to the bar in person fair enough. Also if im thirsty sometimes i'll get an iced water and a beer which imho is fair enough. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NauticalMiss Posted July 25, 2014 #31 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I really don't think the comparison between 'cruise dining' and 'restaurant-in-town dining' is equitable. In a restaurant in town, you would not expect to share your table with strangers; you would also book a table at a time that was suitable to only you and your dining companion(s); you would settle your bill as you left; and you may even leave a monetary token of good service received. None of this applies to 'cruise dining'. Therefore I believe that the rules of engagement are quite different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sealoveragain Posted July 25, 2014 #32 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Personally I wouldn't dream of asking the waiter to bring me a glass of water. I'm amazed at some of the replies on here.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovemychoos Posted July 25, 2014 #33 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Personally I wouldn't dream of asking the waiter to bring me a glass of water. I'm amazed at some of the replies on here.:rolleyes: Neither would I, as far as I'm concerned, the waiter is there to serve me a drink if I wish to buy one. I can honestly say I have never, ever seen any waiter, on any ship, going around selling drinks? By my understanding that would be similar to a market trader, touting his wares, and letting you know what was for sale? I don't think so,lol. Blimey, how hard is it to go and get a glass of water? IMHO they are waiters, not servants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richleeds Posted July 25, 2014 Author #34 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Serving you a drink if you wish to buy one or selling you one are very much the same thing. Yes they are getting like market traders, on Ventura last month they were yelling "drinks drinks" every 10 mins as well as "ice creams" every half an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovemychoos Posted July 25, 2014 #35 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Serving you a drink if you wish to buy one or selling you one are very much the same thing. Yes they are getting like market traders, on Ventura last month they were yelling "drinks drinks" every 10 mins as well as "ice creams" every half an hour. If that's the case, yet another reason why we won't be back to P&O! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywood Posted July 25, 2014 #36 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Hi Seen this quite a few times when the deck/pool waiters come around asking if anyone would like a drink, some passengers will ask for an iced tap water with lemon and nothing else! What do you think about this? If the person/s were asked 'Would you like ...' rather than 'do you want to buy..' perhaps that was the answer - 'yes please, I would like some water.' On another line, I have seen several people accepting champagne at sailaways which are proffered and then looking rather askance when they were asked to sign for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovemychoos Posted July 25, 2014 #37 Share Posted July 25, 2014 If the person/s were asked 'Would you like ...' rather than 'do you want to buy..' perhaps that was the answer - 'yes please, I would like some water.' On another line, I have seen several people accepting champagne at sailaways which are proffered and then looking rather askance when they were asked to sign for it. On another line? This happens all the time on P&O! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiB Posted July 25, 2014 #38 Share Posted July 25, 2014 If that's the case, yet another reason why we won't be back to P&O! Well if you make your decision on this one report of this happening perhaps you should investigate further. On our last 6 cruises in the past 2 years I have never seen or heard this happening. So perhaps you should just avoid the cruises richleeds goes on. Interesting that the reports form everyone from Ventura never mention this, was it one waiter having a bit of fun with people he knew. Or company policy. Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovemychoos Posted July 25, 2014 #39 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Well if you make your decision on this one report of this happening perhaps you should investigate further. On our last 6 cruises in the past 2 years I have never seen or heard this happening. So perhaps you should just avoid the cruises richleeds goes on. Interesting that the reports form everyone from Ventura never mention this, was it one waiter having a bit of fun with people he knew. Or company policy. Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app No - as I said, only another reason :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywood Posted July 25, 2014 #40 Share Posted July 25, 2014 On another line? This happens all the time on P&O! I suppose it does :) So why should someone supposedly asking for a glass of water cause so much fuss.:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovemychoos Posted July 25, 2014 #41 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I have no idea :-) I also have no idea what one has to do with the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heywood Posted July 25, 2014 #42 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I have no idea :-) I also have no idea what one has to do with the other? No nor do I :) Except to say that misunderstandings and misinterpretations happen. Therefore 'Would you like...?' elicits a different response to 'Do you want to buy..?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cloudyrain Posted July 26, 2014 #43 Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) Serving you a drink if you wish to buy one or selling you one are very much the same thing. Yes they are getting like market traders, on Ventura last month they were yelling "drinks drinks" every 10 mins as well as "ice creams" every half an hour. Just to second this comment - we were on the Ventura in June/July and experienced this. We found the further away from the pool we sat the less if a problem it became. Edited July 26, 2014 by Cloudyrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richleeds Posted July 26, 2014 Author #44 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Just to second this comment - we were on the Ventura in June/July and experienced this. We found the further away from the pool we sat the less if a problem it became. Yes, it was bad in June. We got our regular spot at the back on the highest level (deck 19) away from the pools but still they came. To be honest after a while you stop "hearing" them and they just become another noise. I have no issue with a 30 mins drinks call but it was much more frequent and sales driven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soobs Posted July 26, 2014 #45 Share Posted July 26, 2014 How strange I never thought of the drinks waiters being a selling exercise - I guess it is but I never thought it, it's just nice not having to get up, cover up and go down 2/3 levels for a drink. We don't use it much because OH likes to go and sit at the bar as a break from the sun and I have a cool mug with water in from the self serve. I have on the odd occasion asked for iced water though I didn't know if I was charged for it or not so to find out it was free is another plus. When I have been on AI holidays I have asked for water when OH was getting a beer (I don't do daytime drinking) from the waiter and it never crossed my mind that I was treating them poorly - maybe I need a re-think?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjam cruisers Posted July 26, 2014 #46 Share Posted July 26, 2014 On all of our P&O cruises iced water has been available at the poolside bars free of charge, you only have to ask. As to asking the waiter for it I only do so if I am also ordering a drink either soft or something stronger, otherwise either my better half or myself will stretch our legs and and take a walk to either the bar or water dispenser. Happy cruising to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCFC Posted July 26, 2014 #47 Share Posted July 26, 2014 If you do ask for water the waiter wont have just your water on the tray, there will be lots of other orders on there, its really not an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikey M Posted July 27, 2014 #48 Share Posted July 27, 2014 This isn't as much of a black and whit issue as many seem determined to make it out to be. The waiters are neither there 'just to serve' or 'just to sell'. Their role includes both. I have targets at work but I often have to do things that don't contribute to my targets. Not ideal, but that's the rub. 9/10 I'll go to the bar whatever I want as I like to stretch my legs, but I hardly thinking asking a waiter for a glass of water should be seen as the war crime many seem to see it as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanexile81 Posted July 27, 2014 #49 Share Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) This isn't as much of a black and whit issue as many seem determined to make it out to be. The waiters are neither there 'just to serve' or 'just to sell'. Their role includes both. I have targets at work but I often have to do things that don't contribute to my targets. Not ideal, but that's the rub. 9/10 I'll go to the bar whatever I want as I like to stretch my legs, but I hardly thinking asking a waiter for a glass of water should be seen as the war crime many seem to see it as. I don't see it as a war crime but I get this picture in my head of the Roman emperors lounging on their chaise longue while the servant rushed around serving them hand and foot. Made me smile. :) Maybe a walk to the bar to fetch their own iced-water would be good for sun-bathers - a bit of exercise and getting out of the sun for a short time? Edited July 27, 2014 by tartanexile81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sealoveragain Posted July 27, 2014 #50 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I don't see it as a war crime but I get this picture in my head of the Roman emperors lounging on their chaise longue while the servant rushed around serving them hand and foot. Made me smile. :) Maybe a walk to the bar to fetch their own iced-water would be good for sun-bathers - a bit of exercise and getting out of the sun for a short time? I know what you mean. It was the 'I've paid a lot for my cruise, I expect to be waited on hand, foot and finger' attitude that got to me.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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