Definition of "Public Areas" for dress code?

[CowPrincess]

Fully agree with Joanie about public areas being defined as anything outside your cabin. HAL has their published policy for attire and many people cruise HAL because of their policy. If people want to be more casual, there are other cruise lines that cater to them without any issue. Our children are great examples as they prefer more casual cruising so they would never consider HAL. Family cruises are done on other cruise lines. Do not mean to offend anyone but there are so many options out there that if someone does not like the policies of one cruise line, they do have many alternatives to choose from for a cruise.

 

So when we change from what now passes as "formal wear" on HAL into casual outdoor wear, to enjoy time walking on the promenade deck, we should "go to another cruise line" because we have the audacity to be in a "public area"? :eek: Thank goodness you aren't the fashion police :D

[taxmantoo]

Fully agree with Joanie about public areas being defined as anything outside your cabin.

 

Thank goodness you aren't the fashion police :D

 

I stopped reading the OP's post after the first four words ... ;)

Edited August 12, 2014 by taxmantoo

[iancal]

What a bunch of silliness.

 

Often, on a Caribbean or a Med cruise you will find us in casual dress, sometimes short, on the top deck. On formal nights-most especially if it is very warm. Could be having a drink and watching the world go buy or eating at the buffet.

 

Does anyone really expect people not to do this? Does anyone expect HAL to enforce their outdated code. If they did, a la fashion police, their ships would either be half full or they would be selling them off at $40. day!

 

The notion that people should be dressed in the formal wear code in order to step our of their cabin threshold on formal night is well, simply archaic and is most likely unacceptable to the vast majority of the cruise market.

Edited August 12, 2014 by iancal

[Lizzie68]

What a bunch of silliness.

 

Often, on a Caribbean or a Med cruise you will find us in casual dress, sometimes short, on the top deck. On formal nights-most especially if it is very warm. Could be having a drink and watching the world go buy or eating at the buffet.

 

Does anyone really expect people not to do this? Does anyone expect HAL to enforce their outdated code. If they did, a la fashion police, their ships would either be half full or they would be selling them off at $40. day!

 

The notion that people should be dressed in the formal wear code in order to step our of their cabin threshold on formal night is well, simply archaic and is most likely unacceptable to the vast majority of the cruise market.

 

I believe it is unacceptable to HAL, as well. Public areas are not defined as in corridors to get to and from locales. If HAL had such a ridiculous code they would lose the majority of their customers. The spa is open, as is the gym on formal night - what then???? Other passengers expecting people to dress formally to go to the Lido Buffet or anywhere else except the MDR is a load of codswallop.

[Lizzie68]

Couldn't agree more about the hats! I had a chat with my young teenage grandson a while back and now his ball cap comes off as he walk in the door. So nice to see a positive response to good manners, something sadly lacking with many adults who should know better.

 

Funny how it often falls to grandparents to teach the grandsons about not wearing a cap in the house.:rolleyes: My grandsons got a pep talk about that, too. And yet they happily dressed in suits for formal night in the MDR when we took them cruising.;)

[iancal]

Posters can 'split the atom' all day when it comes to the definition of dress codes and public areas on formal nights. The bottom line is that the discussion only concerns the small minority of people on the forum. Very few others really give a hoot.

 

In the real world, on the ship, these decisions are made by the cruisers based on what they individually wear and by the HAL on board staff.

Edited August 12, 2014 by iancal

[Seago2]

The answer, if anyone is actually asking, is "up the aft stairway." That's how you get to the lido to eat on a formal night if you're not going to the dining room. Yes, casual clothes are acceptable as long as you're not going to go traipsing through the main areas of the ship.

[iancal]

Sorry, but I have never seen anything in HAL's dress code that says....

 

'...casual clothes are acceptable as long as you do not go traipsing through the main areas of the ship'

 

Must have missed it. Is there also a definition of main areas? A color coded map perhaps?

Edited August 12, 2014 by iancal

[sppunk]

I happily, proudly and openly wear shorts and a short-sleeve shirt in the lido, out on deck, in the gym, whatever on formal nights when not taking a jacket or any night I don't feel like taking 1:30 to eat dinner. It is 2014, not 1934.

Edited August 12, 2014 by sppunk

[Lizzie68]

The answer, if anyone is actually asking, is "up the aft stairway." That's how you get to the lido to eat on a formal night if you're not going to the dining room. Yes, casual clothes are acceptable as long as you're not going to go traipsing through the main areas of the ship.

 

 

Would you care to find that in HAL's guidelines or Know Before You Go? You cannot set your own rules for how YOU want things to be onboard a ship. HAL is happy to having anyone dressed anyway traipsing through the main areas of the ship - especially if they are going to spend money in the casino or bars. I can't say that I have seen any signs that say use the aft stairs if you are dressed informally.:rolleyes:

 

Have you actually sailed on a HAL ship? I have, many times - and I enjoy dressing up for formal night. But many passengers do not choose to do formal, and they are all over the ship. And welcomed by staff, officers, and crew. It would be very offensive to your eye, I am sure.

[Seago2]

Sorry, but I have never seen anything in HAL's dress code that says....

 

'...casual clothes are acceptable as long as you do not go traipsing through the main areas of the ship'

 

Must have missed it. Is there also a definition of main areas? A color coded map perhaps?

 

Do you need a color coded map to show you where the aft staircase or lido buffet are? Have you ever seen people eating in the lido buffet in formal clothes? There can be many reasons why a single person or more than one person does not feel up to dressing up and going to the MDR or Pinnacle. It's completely fine to go up to the lido to eat in less than formal clothes. This is not earth shattering news.

Edited August 12, 2014 by Seago2

[dontworry]

If I feel like it I will even walk to the Showroom from the Lido in my less than than formal clothes. I pay my money just like everyone else. My clothes are extremely clean and very,very comfortable. This never ending theme on how people want other people to dress is very redundant. I think all discussions on this should go to a single thread just as the smoking threads did.

[Wakepatrol]

Codeword for sweatpants:)

[iancal]

We are hardly going to go up and down the back staircase like a skivvy in a manor house simply to satisfy someone's overblown sensibilities.

 

And judging by what we have observed, no one else is either.

 

I sometimes think this is an aspirational issue inasmuch as some people pay the going rate on a mass market line and then like to pretend that they are members of the café society travelling on a luxury, high end ship. Hate to burst you bubble....HAL is a mass market cruise line. Fifteen or so ships, with some 7 day cruises being sold for as low as $295. We are just fine with that.

Edited August 13, 2014 by iancal

[DrTee]

Do I need to pack formal gym clothes now? What is the etiquette? Is a Tiara required for the treadmill?

Edited August 13, 2014 by DrTee

[DrTee]

Fully agree with Joanie about public areas being defined as anything outside your cabin. HAL has their published policy for attire and many people cruise HAL because of their policy. If people want to be more casual, there are other cruise lines that cater to them without any issue. Our children are great examples as they prefer more casual cruising so they would never consider HAL. Family cruises are done on other cruise lines. Do not mean to offend anyone but there are so many options out there that if someone does not like the policies of one cruise line, they do have many alternatives to choose from for a cruise.

 

So you're saying that we should stay in our cabins and order some gruel? Why is the Lido open? Why is the gym open?

[Seago2]

Iancal and lizzie68, you are preaching to the choir here. What the HAL forum wishes and what reality is are two different things. Yes I've been on two HAL sailings or I wouldn't be here. In my experience if you're eating in the lido on formal night you get there fairly discreetly and then hang out up there on deck. You don't go walking by the photographers taking pics of people in formal-ish wear. I'm not by any means banishing people to the servants' staircase.

[tip]

Fully agree with Joanie about public areas being defined as anything outside your cabin. HAL has their published policy for attire and many people cruise HAL because of their policy. If people want to be more casual, there are other cruise lines that cater to them without any issue. Our children are great examples as they prefer more casual cruising so they would never consider HAL. Family cruises are done on other cruise lines. Do not mean to offend anyone but there are so many options out there that if someone does not like the policies of one cruise line, they do have many alternatives to choose from for a cruise.

 

And folks say that the "clothes police" do not exist. Wow, the above shows me that they are out there!:rolleyes:

[Seago2]

So you're saying that we should stay in our cabins and order some gruel? Why is the Lido open? Why is the gym open?

 

 

No, you're supposed to wear your long gown on your 35 day sailing on Prinsendam. Oh wait, you mean HAL is a mass market cruise line with 7 day Caribbean and Alaska sailings that anyone can book and enjoy? Who knew.

[Lizzie68]

This is just downright silly and we are responding to the stupidity of being told that the hallways are public and therefore formal attire only. Let's not sink to that level. I really should have stopped reading at Taxmantoo's post and let it go because that pretty much summed it up.

[dontworry]

"Codeword for sweatpants"

 

never sweat pants ever,ever

I wonder how many people choose not to go this forum because of these never ending awful comments by some people here

[kazu]

"Codeword for sweatpants"

 

never sweat pants ever,ever

I wonder how many people choose not to go this forum because of these never ending awful comments by some people here

 

 

Next time that happens just have apiece of pie and take a deep breath, or advise them to:D http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2082923

[nb125]

Next time that happens just have apiece of pie and take a deep breath, or advise them to:D http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2082923

 

Does the apple pie have to be special formal occasion pie or just everyday comfortable pie?

[cruz chic]

Is someone getting paid a royalty for every time apple pie is mentioned? Sure seems that way:D. That gets my vote for the silliest thread ever on cc.

[nb125]

Is someone getting paid a royalty for every time apple pie is mentioned? Sure seems that way:D. That gets my vote for the silliest thread ever on cc.

 

I disagree, I think this is the silliest thread on CC hence the introduction of aple pie :D