JPH814 Posted January 17, 2016 #76 Share Posted January 17, 2016 A quality use of your time, clearly. Best- Steve Seriously, if the response on this board was " that outfit does not meet the requirements" what would you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz chic Posted January 17, 2016 #77 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Those who, while meeting the dress code requirements, nevertheless prefer a more casual outfit rarely (if ever) criticize others for being "over dressed". So why isn't the vice versa? Why do those who prefer more formal attire feel the need to criticize those who don't? Not all of them, certainly, but a substantial number it would appear. I guess you glossed over the many insults on this board. I've heard stuffed sausage, pretentious etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serendipity1499 Posted January 17, 2016 #78 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Those who, while meeting the dress code requirements, nevertheless prefer a more casual outfit rarely (if ever) criticize others for being "over dressed". So why isn't the vice versa? Why do those who prefer more formal attire feel the need to criticize those who don't? Not all of them, certainly, but a substantial number it would appear. It sometimes is vice versa..DH, in his TUX on one Formal night & I were in an elevator, when a group of casually dressed people who were partying boarded.. One of the men made a snide remark to DH about being in a Tux & asked if he were part of the crew.. We were floored but didn't have a good answer to his remark.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted January 17, 2016 #79 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I guess you glossed over the many insults on this board. I've heard stuffed sausage, pretentious etc. And the insults fly both ways usually resulting in a thread being closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPH814 Posted January 17, 2016 #80 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) this one is way overdue for closure Edited January 17, 2016 by JPH814 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrewser Posted January 17, 2016 #81 Share Posted January 17, 2016 this one is way overdue for closure Oh, I don't think we'll ever get closure on dress codes... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido123 Posted January 17, 2016 #82 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I'm puzzled about the dress code for Gala nights as well! Originally, I was going to take a dinner jacket but I'm now wondering if that's too formal and whether a smart suit would do. Any advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earljr Posted January 17, 2016 #83 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Remember all the horror when business suits were deemed acceptable on formal nights? In time they became acceptable to all and in fact converted some tux wearers -- and all was right in the world. Now we have gala night and a new definition of what is acceptable I would guess that a very large percentage of passengers, those not on cruise critic, have no idea that things have changed. (like a friend who just returned from a Westerdam cruise and was upset no one told him he could wear a suit rather than a tux-- didn't read any of the docs either) Perhaps it is to early in this transition phase to make comparisons as to how people are dressing ??? And why compare anyway? Edited January 17, 2016 by earljr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakrewser Posted January 17, 2016 #84 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Remember all the horror when business suits were deemed acceptable on formal nights? In time they became acceptable to all and in fact converted some tux wearers -- and all was right in the world. Now we have gala night and a new definition of what is acceptable I would guess that a very large percentage of passengers, those not on cruise critic, have no idea that things have changed. (like a friend who just returned from a Westerdam cruise and was upset no one told him he could wear a suit rather than a tux-- didn't read any of the docs either) Perhaps it is to early in this transition phase to make comparisons as to how people are dressing ??? And why compare anyway? Some people evidently have a need to get upset about something. Anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burny Posted January 17, 2016 #85 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Maybe I don't understand the discussion but in Europa the term GALA means very formal. Dress suite at least for men and gowns for women.And if your host (in this case HAL) invite you for dinner in gala or formal you do not offend him by wearing casual. Maybe old-fashioned but these are the etiquette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricktan Posted January 17, 2016 #86 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Maybe I don't understand the discussion but in Europa the term GALA means very formal.Dress suite at least for men and gowns for women.And if your host (in this case HAL) invite you for dinner in gala or formal you do not offend him by wearing casual. Maybe old-fashioned but these are the etiquette In this case HAL changed he name from Formal to Gala and lowered the requirements for dress code. So....regardless if someone personally agrees or not, as long as they are within the stated required codes, there is nothing offensive about being more causal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted January 17, 2016 #87 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Maybe I don't understand the discussion but in Europa the term GALA means very formal.Dress suite at least for men and gowns for women.And if your host (in this case HAL) invite you for dinner in gala or formal you do not offend him by wearing casual. Maybe old-fashioned but these are the etiquette That's what GALA means in many US cities, too. When I hear "gala" I think super-fancey formal, not formal optional. It's a poor choice of terms, but maybe HAL's marketing people have never heard of a true gala event. "Gala" is HAL's way of moving away from formal nights while pretending they aren't doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avian777 Posted January 17, 2016 #88 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I'm puzzled about the dress code for Gala nights as well! Originally, I was going to take a dinner jacket but I'm now wondering if that's too formal and whether a smart suit would do. Any advice? IMO a dinner jacket would not be too formal, although under the new HAL guidelines, a smart suit would be acceptable as well. My advice is to dress according to what will make you feel most comfortable and not worry about how others might view your attire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherilyn70 Posted January 17, 2016 #89 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Okay, I'm confused now by some of these terms. I admit I'm not very suit knowledgeable. But what is the difference between a dress suit, business suit and a smart suit? And where does a dinner jacket fall into all of this mess? All I know is I went with my husband to the shop and told them I wanted it to be appropriate for a nice dinner with me in a formal and my funeral. They did the rest. Edited January 17, 2016 by sherilyn70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted January 17, 2016 #90 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Remember all the horror when business suits were deemed acceptable on formal nights? In time they became acceptable to all and in fact converted some tux wearers -- and all was right in the world. Now we have gala night and a new definition of what is acceptable I would guess that a very large percentage of passengers, those not on cruise critic, have no idea that things have changed. (like a friend who just returned from a Westerdam cruise and was upset no one told him he could wear a suit rather than a tux-- didn't read any of the docs either) Perhaps it is to early in this transition phase to make comparisons as to how people are dressing ??? And why compare anyway? Was it last summer that HAL made this change? If so, then it's likely that many, if not most, aren't aware of the change until they actually board the ship. I wouldn't expect to see a significant impact from this change until next year, perhaps next fall at the earliest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhDUnderTheSea Posted January 17, 2016 Author #91 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Seriously, if the response on this board was " that outfit does not meet the requirements" what would you do? Probably abandon the thought of trying out HAL. I'm just not interested in formality on vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz chic Posted January 17, 2016 #92 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Was it last summer that HAL made this change? If so, then it's likely that many, if not most, aren't aware of the change until they actually board the ship. I wouldn't expect to see a significant impact from this change until next year, perhaps next fall at the earliest. Yes, I want to say it was around July or August.. I know it was at least a month or so before my October cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammygoose Posted January 17, 2016 #93 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Ok, here's a cute story for some levity from our July Maasdam cruise. We were travelling with my best friend, her husband and 9 year old son. Going to dinner in the MDR was an event every night and they always arrived last because he was 'getting ready'. No picking out clothes for that kid and the hair had to be just right. So we tell him it's gala night ( no we didn't read him the suggested rules) and they arrive 5 minutes late per usual. Well it was worth the wait. Dress pants, polished dress shoes, dress shirt, tie and hair slicked back a la Leonardo DiCaprio from the Titanic. I felt like the unsinkabe Molly Brown going into the MDR with him. :) I wish I had a pic. this was his smart casual choice: Edited January 17, 2016 by sammygoose add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare POA1 Posted January 17, 2016 #94 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Okay, I'm confused now by some of these terms. I admit I'm not very suit knowledgeable. But what is the difference between a dress suit, business suit and a smart suit? And where does a dinner jacket fall into all of this mess? Dinner jacket is the jacket from a tuxedo, usually white or black. A business suit is your typical two piece or three piece suit. A smart suit is usually rechargeable (USB or Qi Wireless) and runs apps. A dress suit is a jacket and skirt... Or is that suit dress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz chic Posted January 17, 2016 #95 Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Dinner jacket is the jacket from a tuxedo, usually white or black. A business suit is your typical two piece or three piece suit. A smart suit is usually rechargeable (USB or Qi Wireless) and runs apps. A dress suit is a jacket and skirt... Or is that suit dress? What about a leisure suit? Thise were the bestest :D;):p. My dad had a brown one, a green one and a powder blue. Edited January 17, 2016 by cruz chic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammygoose Posted January 18, 2016 #96 Share Posted January 18, 2016 The Leisure suit had a belt right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz chic Posted January 18, 2016 #97 Share Posted January 18, 2016 The Leisure suit had a belt right? I think so. Just trying to remember. They were lovely ;):D and made of 100 % polyester iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammygoose Posted January 18, 2016 #98 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I think so. Just trying to remember. They were lovely ;):D and made of 100 % polyester iirc. I bet it did and probably a white belt. I think if someone showed up on Gala night in one of those I'd give them the Wiser's Clap. Secretly I think POA is on the Wiser's panel..... ;) http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr57/Jericho9mm/clap.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare POA1 Posted January 18, 2016 #99 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I bet it did and probably a white belt. I think if someone showed up on Gala night in one of those I'd give them the Wiser's Clap. Secretly I think POA is on the Wiser's panel..... ;) http://i469.photobucket.com/albums/rr57/Jericho9mm/clap.gif Can you give me a little help? I don't recognize the meme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammygoose Posted January 18, 2016 #100 Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) Can you give me a little help? I don't recognize the meme. It's commercials in Canada for Wiser's whiskey. Uncompromising class. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG20SkmnpFg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVy5VRnikJg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAryFIuRxmQ :) Well I guess in retrospect you wouldn't clap but you might gives points for artistic interpretation for the Leisure suit. Edited January 18, 2016 by sammygoose add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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